How about Apple charging what it actually costs to provide the service developers use? I would happily pay for better docs and improvements to the Swift package manager.
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Apple Working on Solution for EU Core Technology Fee Possibly Bankrupting Apps That Go Unexpectedly Viral
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Paying more is not necessarily going to provide those improvements. Competition would.
This would be true if this was correct. I always get my app recommendations from other means, such as Google search, Tech blogs, Reddit and other forum recommendations, etc., I never get recommendations from Appstore. Regarding access, the alternative appstores will provide the same access.
The only reason Apple fans keep comparing these demands for more freedom and competition to "turning iOS into Android" is because they dislike Android, and think they can discredit these demands by making this comparison. It would be more accurate to say that users, developers and regulators want Apple to make iOS more like macOS.
There, Apple doesn't constantly insert itself between users and developers like some overlord. People are free to choose the App Store, accept the commissions, and put up with the many inconsistent, frustrating and limiting rules the App Store has, if they believe it provides enough value to them. But they're also free to use the web to distribute and download apps and conduct commerce, without needing permission from Apple.
That works great on macOS and that would also work great on iOS, but only if Apple executives stop seeing developers as assets that they can squeeze to increase services revenue. It should be a symbiotic relationship based on mutual respect, in a free and open market with competition based on merit. Now it's just the Apple overlords dictating the terms and prices, and if you don't accept those your business will suffer because you can't access 1.5 billion people.
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I mean, this is an insane expectation that doesn't fly literally anywhere in business. But if it did, what incentive would Apple have to provide those improvements if not profit?
iOS App Store delivers twice the revenue to developers compared to the Play Store with only 25% of the users.
There’s your answer 🤔
Good luck with that, it wouldn't end well for the EU when companies pull out of the EU because of excessive government overreach.Breaking news: They can.
"The Commission will monitor the effective implementation of and compliance with these obligations. In case a gatekeeper does not comply with the obligations laid down by the DMA, the Commission can impose fines up to 10% of the company's total worldwide turnover, which can go up to 20% in case of repeated infringement. In case of systematic infringements, the Commission is also empowered to adopt additional remedies such as obliging a gatekeeper to sell a business or parts of it or banning the gatekeeper from acquisitions of additional services related to the systemic non-compliance."
Digital Markets Act: Commission designates six gatekeepers
The European Commission has today designated, for the first time, six gatekeepers, under the Digital Markets Act (DMA).ec.europa.eu
It because devs know they get from Apple, this classic case of politicians out of touch.
The App Store is filled with freeware, how does this stifle anything?
Thank You Apple!
I really appreciate that Apple is making sure the law is getting tweaked to perfection ASAP, i.e. all loopholes closed.
The CTF as they whish for, will likely not be possible to execute anyway... There is simply nothing that is subject to a licensing. If the developers used an "Apple Engine" or some other actually licenseable software THAT IS DISTRIBUTED TO THE ENDUSER, then Apple would have a rightful claim on license fees for that.
However licensing an SDK based on the installations by the end-user... not gonna happen... it's as ridicolous as if the keyboard manufacturer wants a piece of the cake because without the keyboard you couldn't have coded it. It's literally as much part of the software development as Apples SDK...
This kind of "stupidity" is only possible if someones brain is already consumed by endless greed... The only other people coming up with a rip off like that are printer manufacturers... If they could, they would charge a printer driver software license fee by the page printed... (Even that would be more reasonable than the CTF as the driver could, technically, be licensed by the end user.)
I really appreciate that Apple is making sure the law is getting tweaked to perfection ASAP, i.e. all loopholes closed.
The CTF as they whish for, will likely not be possible to execute anyway... There is simply nothing that is subject to a licensing. If the developers used an "Apple Engine" or some other actually licenseable software THAT IS DISTRIBUTED TO THE ENDUSER, then Apple would have a rightful claim on license fees for that.
However licensing an SDK based on the installations by the end-user... not gonna happen... it's as ridicolous as if the keyboard manufacturer wants a piece of the cake because without the keyboard you couldn't have coded it. It's literally as much part of the software development as Apples SDK...
This kind of "stupidity" is only possible if someones brain is already consumed by endless greed... The only other people coming up with a rip off like that are printer manufacturers... If they could, they would charge a printer driver software license fee by the page printed... (Even that would be more reasonable than the CTF as the driver could, technically, be licensed by the end user.)
Companies will do business where they can make money, regardless of whether they like the government regulations they have to adhere to or not.
Pulling out is an option. But we know Apple does not have the guts to do that. While Google pulled out of China in 2010, Apple stayed back and bent over backwards to safegaurd their $1.3 b revenue in 2010. The revenue that Apple gets in the EU is roughly 25% of their total revenue. You can guess the hoops through which it will go to safegaurd this revenue. They are posturing. They will fold quickly.
At this point I'm ready for the EU to start just doing that and lets get this whole thing moving along
Enough of the delays and distractions from Apple
Apple is required to not unfairly disadvantage developers that want to opt for third-party services, including third-party app stores.
If providing a freeware app on a third-party store can literally bankrupt a developer due to Apple's fees whereas the same freeware app on their own store would incur no significant fees, that's obviously going to be a problem.
Apple will chase every single penny and this will never change (at least until Tim goes). They are just looking gross now.
and apples rules don't allow that free app on the main store. But the same app can be on the play store.
Apple US would own Apple EU (not sure why there should be an Apple EU unless it already exists). Apple will be forced to sell the Appstore and banned from operating any further appstores in the EU. Then Apple can charge all Appstores a CTF to its heart's content because then it would not be discriminating.
EU posters living out their power tripping “control” fantasies without regard to developer realities.
Like developers are going to flock to abandon the App Store just because *they* want it that way 😂
Living with Spotify blinders on is no way to live!
Still haven’t heard from a single EU dev on this board that plans on signing up for the EU dev agreement 😉
Like developers are going to flock to abandon the App Store just because *they* want it that way 😂
Living with Spotify blinders on is no way to live!
Still haven’t heard from a single EU dev on this board that plans on signing up for the EU dev agreement 😉
Most developers are unlikely to abandon the App Store as for many developers the App Store is a very good deal. The problem is that for other developers it's not and the DMA is supposed to make it possible for them to go third-party without Apple imposing conditions that stifle that.
Apple is currently trying to still keep control through conditions that are problematic, so most developers that would otherwise be interested in going third-party are likely in a "wait and see" approach.
There is zero doubt IMHO the Core Fee will be challenged sooner or later and at that point things might change again.
Likely because the number isn't really that large and they have been absolutely RAKING at developers expense for all these years
As others have pointed out I have yet to heard from a dev saying they are leaving the App store or want to leave the App store.
Including for default apps I guess. Apple EU would be bankrupt in a half hour.