Because when you don't have a mouse and keyboard connected you won't have iPadOS' dumbified UI to hold your hand. Plus, of course, then Apple can't convince you that you need to buy 2 devices from them.
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Apple Working on 'Special Version' of iPadOS 17 for Larger iPads, Starting With 14.1-inch Model Set to Launch in 2024
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Because when you don't have a mouse and keyboard connected you won't have iPadOS' dumbified UI to hold your hand. Plus, of course, then Apple can't convince you that you need to buy 2 devices from them.
Creating a two tier iPadOS just screams to me Apple purposely keeping the other (current) iPad’s are effectively toys and for some reason you have to go to a 14” screen size with a likely huge price tag for it to suddenly become the “computer” they have always claimed it is?
Aren’t they supposedly working on a touchscreen MacBook? If so, I wonder what the excuse will be then on why MacOS can’t run on the iPad.
Maybe then they’ll say the pencil distorts the users dexterity so no way they can use macOS on the iPad 🤣
Even more sense is just buying a 14" MBP in the first place
Just kidding. iPad fans can keep their pants on.
Never seen the entire product line this convoluted
That because you have all kinds of fake stories submitted online as things that are actually coming that at best are just rumors. This larger 14.1 iPad Pro story isn’t new, just like 2021 15” MBA rumor. We got stories from about how little Apple OS’s will change, or something else like Apple having a terrible time selling anything.
Truth be told the press, financial analysts, and rest are desperate to be right about something with Apple saying nothing. Yes there is a light at the end of this tunnel, only 39 days to June 5th.
This truly been a year that everything suggested is too much for everything to be true.
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Being able to do it = the Microsoft way
Being able to do it with a great UX = the Apple way
It is a monumental challenge to design a coherent architecture and user experience for the two modes that a user might potentially switch at any time, especially if we're thinking of having iPadOS switch to MacOS when a keyboard & mouse are attached.
Perhaps we'll get there at some point, but anyone who thinks you just slap it on and call it a day lives in fairy land.
Couldn't agree more. An unimaginative logistics expert does not a CEO make.
Yes, as we can see for more than a decade, the company hardly survives.
Folks, SJ is dead and was a one off. TC was his pick and his right hand. Move on.
It needs an overhaul, it needs a new desktop class OS with touch because IPadOS is still so basic.
Well it’s because Apple isn’t convinced that a tablet is an equivalent of a laptop isn’ it? Yes after all that marketing of it’s a computer or not, it all falls to the way you sell people on its usage, which in one word is “revolutionary“ and still is. It’s a device that is just different from a iPhone or a Mac in all the ways it can be utilize.
Sounds like further screwing over people who don't want a giant heavy tablet. The Mini gets less and less features and gets no benefits of iOS and half the features of iPadOS and gets the bottom of the barrel processor.
I will never own bigger than the Mini. My wallet has been ready for them to take the Mini seriously for a long time now.
I will never own bigger than the Mini. My wallet has been ready for them to take the Mini seriously for a long time now.
I love my iPad Pro. I have the 11 inch and it’s great especially when I plug it into my monitor. I also have the keyboard case for it and I love it. However, splitting up the iPad line I think is the wrong move. The iPad Pro has such a crazy amount of power, not giving it feature just because the screen is smaller does not sound like the right way to go. Then again, Apple is will do whatever they want. I personally won’t buy a bigger iPad than what I have currently. I love the size when I am on the go and when I am at home, it plugs into a much bigger monitor and it is really an amazing device.
Well, it’s exciting. Hopefully Apple forgets about keyboards, windows, macOS, etc. and builds on the real iPad vision. That’s what has been successful, and not trying to create a PC-wannabe (as they’ve done with stage manager and floating windowing…).
Apple seems to be so unfocused. Remember when they had a really clear product lineup? It's like the early 90s all over again
Macs with touch screens is a horrible idea.
And here we go again, more arguments over whether or not the iPad should run macOS or iPadOS…
As a person who uses the iPad as my primary computer (yes, I do “pro work” with it), I think the iPad should run iPadOS, and the Mac should run MacOS. But I do think that iPadOS should gain a form of Catalyst 2.0 which allows Mac apps to run on iPadOS, perhaps Catalyst 2.0 could even automatically optimize the UI of the Mac app for touch input? Kind of like some of the changes Catalyst currently makes when bringing iOS apps to macOS, only the other way. I also think that iPadOS should gain more of macOS’s functionality in a way that makes sense for it’s modular form-factor, and it’s touch-first input. I think they should largely “merge” in functionality, but remain distinct in certain aspects.
As a person who uses the iPad as my primary computer (yes, I do “pro work” with it), I think the iPad should run iPadOS, and the Mac should run MacOS. But I do think that iPadOS should gain a form of Catalyst 2.0 which allows Mac apps to run on iPadOS, perhaps Catalyst 2.0 could even automatically optimize the UI of the Mac app for touch input? Kind of like some of the changes Catalyst currently makes when bringing iOS apps to macOS, only the other way. I also think that iPadOS should gain more of macOS’s functionality in a way that makes sense for it’s modular form-factor, and it’s touch-first input. I think they should largely “merge” in functionality, but remain distinct in certain aspects.
I can’t believe they are heading down that same road. Why can’t companies and CEOs learn from past mistakes. I see companies making the exact same mistakes all the time that other companies make on their way to irrelevancy and eventual bankruptcy. Believe me it can happen to Apple and they are headed in that direction. There is a tipping point when it comes to quality of product, innovation and price that every company can hit and once they do things go down hill fast. I think a big part of it nowadays is all CEOs see is milking companies for all the money they can and then when they leave the companies are worse off then when they got there.
I’ll tell you what Apple should make. They should make an an iPad maybe somewhere around 20 inches that runs a version of macOS and it comes with a stand like what is on the iMac. You put the iPad on the stand and it automatically connects it to external power and keyboard and mice and acts just like an iMac. Then when you want to go you just pull it off the stand and it’s an iPad.
If you ask me, the MS way is better than Apple when devices have keyboard + trackpad. iPad with Magic Keyboard are very limited in multitasking and dual monitor support is very limited. Also, Windows has the benefit of a large list of applications designed for keyboard + mouse. IMO, the Apple way is not a great UX as you said. I think iPads are better tablets compared to a Surface Pro device. But as soon as you attach a keyboard + mouse, Surface Pro is a better device.
Yes then it’s a monster 20” tablet that needs to get back on the stand asap because you won’t want to carry it around at that size, just like you don’t carry your 20” iMac around often.
Yea maybe that’s a little big. Maybe 16 inch. The idea is that it would switch from a desktop to an iPad with all the benefits of portability when you use it as an iPad and all the benefits of a laptop when it’s connected to its stand.
i was under the impression from ross young this was scrapped or wasn't happening. I also don't see why it would be just for 14.1 though. 12.9 should get it at least.