If Apple really believed in the superiority of their App Store policy and really cared about user privacy and security, they wouldn’t comply with this new EU regulation and pay the fine.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Working to Add Support for Sideloading and Alternate App Stores in Europe
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Actually EU forcing this is quite bad. I have many lightning cables AND accessories that are no longer useable post USB-C. Good thing is I don't need to upgrade my phone right away. But I WILL need to eventually update iOS to remain secure thus being forced to have this insecure version of iOS.
If you can figure out how to jailbreak the iPhone then go ahead and side load all you want. Apple is not obligated to make it easy. Just like people who "hack" to homebrew/emulate/etc on consoles.
NOTE: Hack as in open up the OS for these capabilities. NOT hacking in terms of cheating for multiplayer. Also, you risk being banned by console manufactures if you attempt to break open the OS.
Uh yes I prefer that on my computers too. I recently had my windows machine infected when Video Copilot had their plug-ins compromised. I have had infected computers before.
Ah I love this argument. You know people come up with words to shorthand a conversation right? One word vs saying "I will download Adobe from Adobe's website and NOT from the App Store". Sideload is one word that covers it not just for Adobe but ALL cases. You CLEARLY know what it means. Context is key in these conversations.
I can already see the genius bars and apple support being inundated with calls and appointments for the idiots that thought they knew better and installed something that hijacked all the data bricked their device. I'm sure those people are going to be pleasant to deal with. Haha
What good is an emulator without roms? I have looked into using one. I have to SEVERELY hack my consoles in order to get emulators working, and it puts me at risk of getting banned.
Absolutely brilliant news!
My device, my choice what I install and from where.
My device, my choice what I install and from where.
So you get your way and to hell with us that want a locked down experience? You don't NEED to use emulator apps.
Feel free to develop skills and jailbreak the device. Hack the OS, find holes etc. But Apple shouldn't be forced to help you do this. Its your device, hack away at it.
The apps you install from alternate app stores will be the same apps you would have installed from the App Store. The only difference is where you downloaded them from. What a prize!
Oh and since every store will most likely not contain every app, you will now have to search more different stores to find what you're looking for. How is that a win?
Just a couple more reasons why alternate app stores are a bag of hurt. For everybody.
Huh, it's a nothingburger.
What exactly is stopping Apple from dragging their feet until 2024? What exactly is stopping Apple from implementing a ****** half-baked system where all of a phone's functionality is artificially hidden away from sideloaded apps? Nothing.
While I wish it's just a nag like it was in High Sierra/Mojave, I doubt it'll be at all like that.
What exactly is stopping Apple from dragging their feet until 2024? What exactly is stopping Apple from implementing a ****** half-baked system where all of a phone's functionality is artificially hidden away from sideloaded apps? Nothing.
While I wish it's just a nag like it was in High Sierra/Mojave, I doubt it'll be at all like that.
So instead you should get your way and to hell with us that want a more open experience?
You do realize sideloading will probably be a switch that's turned off by default, right? (Like macOS and Android)
If you want your walled garden you're free to keep it
You have a choice. Android. I specifically chose iPhone because its locked down. Android is actually far superior to iOS in dozens of ways.
Will need to see how this plays out. I certainly would love more freedom on my platform of choice, but there could always be downsides and slippery slopes that hurt the platform.
Maybe all this side-loading and verification infrastructure could open up a path for transient apps. Like progressive web apps, but native, loaded on demand, and cached like a web page. Apple did an experiment with this for app clips, but would love to see something that allows whole websites to go native.
I feel that too many people here are hyping up the benefits of sideloading and downplaying the possible concerns.
The only thing that remains is to see how Apple will ultimately implement this and how they intend to mitigate harm to their platform.
But what do I know.
First, if you’re really part of the Apple ecosystem, and you have a Mac (or any other Apple device), that data is spread across every device you own, and your Mac absolutely can be sideloaded, so the risk is there regardless.
Second, all of that data you mentioned is spread all over the world replicated on hundreds, if not thousands of computers and can be accessed by even more. Out of all of the many billions of devices around the world with data on them, the only ones that can’t be sideloaded are Apple’s phones. The information technology world ran just fine before the App Store was invented, and it will continue once it’s broken up.
So Apple will allow sideloading but still charge for it… just as I predicted. And they may also have an approval process- how exactly is this different from the App Store? Maybe a lighter touch?
It’s important to remember, for all the people yelling about “openness”, that the iPhone can already sideload. You can sideload- within the app sandbox- with an official Apple developer account. It sounds like Apple may make this process somewhat easier in the EU, that is all. There will be no viruses, no jailbreak tweaks, or anything remotely exciting other than perhaps porn, crypto, racist message boards, and other distasteful apps. Ironically that’s exactly the sort of content EU regulators are always trying to get rid of, and they don’t have a First Amendment. In any case, Apple isn’t going to lose control in any meaningful way.
It’s important to remember, for all the people yelling about “openness”, that the iPhone can already sideload. You can sideload- within the app sandbox- with an official Apple developer account. It sounds like Apple may make this process somewhat easier in the EU, that is all. There will be no viruses, no jailbreak tweaks, or anything remotely exciting other than perhaps porn, crypto, racist message boards, and other distasteful apps. Ironically that’s exactly the sort of content EU regulators are always trying to get rid of, and they don’t have a First Amendment. In any case, Apple isn’t going to lose control in any meaningful way.
context may be the key, but my point is what eludes you. go back and read it again.
I don’t see YouTube ads on my iPhone in Safari. SurfShark VPN blocks them. I’m not sure about the actual YouTube app.