I live in China and have 3 different stores on my Android phone. I've set all to only work when I tell them to. It is fine.
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Apple Working to Add Support for Sideloading and Alternate App Stores in Europe
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Remember when Pegasus was used to spy on iPhone users for years and Apple did not notice that iOS was wide open for the whole time?
All that proves is that you’re not really an IT guy. NO IT professional sets their users up with admin privileges for everyday use. Not to mention, Windows UAC catches most of those things even if you are an admin.
Keep trying, and I feel “let me spell it out for you” is insulting, condescending, and just plain hurtful. I think I feel a tear running down my face.
This is going on a side tangent. We were a managed services provider. We got the client the day this incident occurred and assisted with security measures. Do I need to tell you the whole story? Microsoft themselves even thought to disable macros in office due to security concerns.
And UAC catches MOST, not all. Some still slip through.
Still, how can you argue the simple fact that an open ecosystem is not as secure as a closed one. Its in the very definition. Emulators will not exist without an open system (what people on this thread are DYING to get), therefore you can run apps Apple wouldn't normally have on their store. Therefore, there is a higher chance of getting a malicious app outside of a single store. Its just common sense.
Discussing ways to make a boat watertight after warning people that making the boat in the first place was a bad idea does NOT equal successfully making a watertight boat.
Here’s the other thing that makes me doubt you’re actually involved in IT security. I worked at one of the top universities in the country, and security was a HUGE priority. Yet not one of my my security colleagues even had an iPhone specifically because they are so locked down. Security professionals don’t need or want big-tech babysitters; they ARE the babysitters. This idea that you’re an IT security person who actually thinks he needs a babysitter is completely laughable. Anyway, nighty night. Thanks for the laugh.
I used to do it as my day job. I don't want to be an IT security expert 24/7. I need some downtime. I already get frustrated after a 14 hour work day to have to diagnose my crappy home network because Spectrum is all we have available. They keep repairing damage outside the house.
Fine, don't believe me, I have nothing to prove to you and I am not looking to get hired by you to send my resume. I have been in IT for 30 years. Believe what you want. MANY IT folks around me like iPhone since its locked down.
Haha, that’s funny. Yeah, yeah, IT people just hate even having admin accounts on their computers. All that responsibility is just too great. I want to see your resume SO bad! 😂
That's not how it works. As a company, Apple agrees to abide to whatever laws there are in each market, or they can choose to withdraw. But I doubt they'd want to withdraw from the European Union, seeing as it's one of their largest markets.
Believe it or not, security is in the OS, not in the store. If it turns out iOS is a bug-ridden wasteland (which is rather extreme), then it was never much secure to begin with.
No, but you can install a scam app from the App Store and get an added sense of security while it does who knows what in the background.
Android has Google Play Store, Galaxy Store, Amazon App Store, and a bunch of other smaller app stores, and yet all the apps that you listed are in the Play Store. The average Joe isn't going to open up a browser to down MS Office because it's not in the Play Store because that means he's more likely to use Google Docs instead or Apple's office suite.
Why not share your resume? For all I know you are making all of this stuff up. You started off insulting me and telling me I should feel insulted like you were proud of it.
I also didn't realize that you are REQUIRED to use Android in order to be an IT Professional.
I have been following these issues since Day 1. Epic also wants to go after Google because its "so difficult" to side load on Android. So I fully expect this to be a start of a larger issue.
Where did she download this rouge app? Even apps in the app stores can do that if they have a bug.
It was a malware from back in 2015/2016. It was from some website, I do not recall.
Europe has produced NOTHING on a gran-scale in customer tech lately. Neither on hardware (dead Nokia?), nor sotfware (Spotify?). I’m a european who is sick of this people trying to ruin our continent. Maybe someone should consider why to follow with an attitude that has failed for decades.
That wasn’t what I said or the point I was making. My point was that while many IT people have iPhones, I’ve never heard a single one say that it was because they need to be protected from themselves. Well, until you came along and said exactly that. Not a single one I’ve ever known wished they had LESS control over their own devices. They may wish that for the people they support, but never for themselves. Until… you. But then, that brings us back to the question of you actually being an IT person. Or are you really the ‘grandma’ you keep speaking of who got stuck with a rogue app on her phone? Ah ha, now this is all making sense.
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I never said I needed a babysitter. I said I preferred it due to the locked down experience. I don't NEED a babysitter. Not sure how you made that leap. I take my personal IT security very seriously, even to the point of validating checksums on every download when available. I don't need to go through all of that mess with iPhone. I do that enough with my 7 computers I use with my current job.
We'll need to first see how Apple implements this. It could be that unless you take affirmative action, by default your iPhone or iPad won't even be aware of third-party app stores or other means Apple might allow for installing apps outside of the App Store. In essense, that would be your "secure" device.
That won't of course solve the potential problem of an app you like no longer being available on the App Store. In that case a "secure" solution would be similar to what you proposed - buy iPhones / iPads to use solely within Apple's ecosystem with your "real" Apple ID, and buy an additional device or devices you dedicate to apps obtained outside of the App Store (with a secondary Apple ID - if still required - that holds none of your personal data like messages, photos, etc, tied to a second credit card with very strict limits).