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Which is kinda a misdirect here

it was a tangent as we were discussing gatekeeping and dictatorial control of apps on devices owned by individuals.. sony and microsoft were brought up by someone else, I merely pointed out that they do not force people into their app stores..
 
to be more clear, they don't get anything from me. :D

I built my entire PS3 library from eBay.. Will do the same for PS4 when I find a good used machine at a garage sale this spring.
Much easier to do when software/games comes on a disc without being tied to an account.
 
forums.macrumors.com/threads/biden-administration-report-recommends-sweeping-changes-to-apples-ecosystem.2379414/

Finally even more push to freedom. Those who do not want, do not use. Worst is who want to deny sideloading to others is like supporting dictatorship, simple as that. I have app currently that is very good, but it is removed from store and thus i am imprisoned to older device for that app. You can argue, but you cannot never convince me to lock myself into prison.

I repeat once more like a robot, who do not want sideloading, just do not even opt-in to sideloading feature.
 
forums.macrumors.com/threads/biden-administration-report-recommends-sweeping-changes-to-apples-ecosystem.2379414/

Finally even more push to freedom. Those who do not want, do not use. Worst is who want to deny sideloading to others is like supporting dictatorship, simple as that. I have app currently that is very good, but it is removed from store and thus i am imprisoned to older device for that app. You can argue, but you cannot never convince me to lock myself into prison.

I repeat once more like a robot, who do not want sideloading, just do not even opt-in to sideloading feature.
Well, proposals are proposals, and I have little faith in any new legislation actually getting passed, given the current political climate in the US.
 
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Not at all:

"To help protect against unsafe apps, Apple is discussing the idea of mandating certain security requirements even if software is distributed outside its store. Such apps also may need to be verified by Apple — a process that could carry a fee. Within the App Store, Apple takes a 15% to 30% cut of revenue. "
Personally, I don’t see a problem. Apple is doing all the heavy, lifting to deliver their product. My only question, who do I sue when I become infected from some sideloading loser?
 
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Apple is planning to allow for alternate app stores on iPhones and iPads ahead of European legislation that will require the company to support sideloading, reports Bloomberg.

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The change would allow customers to download apps without needing to use the App Store, which would mean developers would not need to pay Apple's 15 to 30 percent fees, but to start with, Apple is only planning to implement sideloading support in Europe.

If other countries introduce similar legislation, alternate app stores could expand beyond the European Union. The United States, for example, is considering legislation that would require Apple to allow sideloading. Apple has claimed that sideloading will "undermine the privacy and security protections" that iPhone users rely on, leaving people vulnerable to malware, scams, data tracking, and other issues.

The European Union's Digital Markets Act that went into effect on November 1 requires "gatekeeper" companies to open up their services and platforms to other companies and developers. The DMA will have a major impact on Apple's platforms, and it could result in Apple making major changes to the App Store, Messages, FaceTime, Siri, and more. Apple has until March 6, 2024 to comply with the EU's rules.

According to Bloomberg, Apple's software engineering and services employees are working to open up "key elements of Apple's platforms," with Apple using a "significant amount of resources" for the change. Apple is planning for the functionality to be ready for iOS 17 in 2023, which would put it ahead of the deadline. There is a danger that these drastic updates could impact work on new features slated for iOS 17, some employees told Bloomberg.

To protect users from the aforementioned risks of sideloading, Apple is considering implementing security requirements such as verification, a process that it could charge a fee for in lieu of collecting money from app sales. Apple has a verification system on Mac that allows users to be safe while giving them access to apps outside of the Mac App Store.

Apple could open up underlying app frameworks and APIs to third-party app developers, providing deeper access to core system functions and hardware. Third-party apps could in the future get access to camera technologies not available now, and Apple is working to open up NFC in a limited way that could allow for Apple Pay alternatives. Apple is also considering further opening up the Find My network to accessory makers like Tile. As of now, Apple lets third-party device makers create Find My accessories, but there is a requirement that prevents them from working with non-Find My apps and services.

There is an aspect of the Digital Markets Act that would require Apple to allow developers to install third-party payment systems within their apps, and Apple has not yet "made a final decision" on whether it will comply with the rule. Apple is also undecided on how the Messages app might be made available to third-party services, as the DMA requires interoperability between messaging platforms.

Apple has to comply with the Digital Markets Act because the European Union can fine a company as much as 20 percent of its global revenue if the laws are violated. If Apple does not implement the changes, fines could be as high as $80 billion.

In addition to resulting in major changes to the App Store and other Apple services, European legislation is also pushing Apple to adopt USB-C across all of its devices, a change that will be made in 2023.

Article Link: Apple Working to Add Support for Sideloading and Alternate App Stores in Europe
Wow, Apple's being bullied...
Anyways, this is a welcome change for me personally, maybe now I can emulate games without having to jump through seventeen hoops and refreshing apps every week...
 
That’s also your choice. You chose to buy an iPhone, you could have bought an android phone instead.
Is it a choice though? If you want something simple like iCloud photo integration then its iPhone only. Google offers their Photos app across iOS and Android and you can get iCloud as a plugin for the Windows Photos app so its not like companies, even Apple don't do it.

You might also need Procreate. Or want to play Tiny Wings. Or your boss has an Apple-only policy on work devices.

There are many reasons people use a particular OS but choice isn't always the factor.
 
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Is it a choice though? If you want something simple like iCloud photo integration then its iPhone only. Google offers their Photos app across iOS and Android and you can get iCloud as a plugin for the Windows Photos app so its not like companies, even Apple don't do it.

You might also need Procreate. Or want to play Tiny Wings. Or your boss has an Apple-only policy on work devices.

There are many reasons people use a particular OS but choice isn't always the factor.
But that’s the choice you knowingly made, up-front. The same choice others made who are now having something different enforced on them, with nowhere else to go.
 
But that’s the choice you knowingly made, up-front. The same choice others made who are now having something different enforced on them, with nowhere else to go.
So I should think about whether or not my OS supports sideloading when deciding which college to attend just in case my future employer doesn't offer Android phones as a work device?
 
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So I should think about whether or not my OS supports sideloading when deciding which college to attend just in case my future employer doesn't offer Android phones as a work device?
That is a straw man - and one so brittle it may turn to dust before I finish typing.

If you company mandates a specific device (iOS) and you chose different (Android) the company will provide the appropriate device. Many people carry two devices - one for work and one for personal for many reasons. Work devices often require MDM and entitlements which grant the employer access to the device data and to remotely wipe the devices. People don't want to put personal information of a work device. People want to be able to leave work behind and go out or on vacation without thrir work connections.
 
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