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And why is Apple even interested in this space again? Still don't understand why an Apple car would be compelling in any way. Prove me wrong Apple, but I think you should just stick to what you do best, shiny thin computers.
 
I'm gonna multiply by two with schedules like this. 2030 seems more realistic. I've heard experts say 2040, but I think that is too pessimistic.
 
No steering column or pedals? Not even a backup for safety in case of malfunction? That sounds super dangerous.
I understand getting me from point A to point B in the general sense. But what if I need to back up 6 feet at a certain angle so I can get my car in position to pick up a piece of furniture or something? They must make it so that some type of manual control is possible, no? I've always wondered about this.
You'll control it with your iDevice.
 
No steering column or pedals? Not even a backup for safety in case of malfunction? That sounds super dangerous. Zero autonomy sounds super odd. Maybe I’m just used to driving.
If you have to be ready to take over in an emergency then you might as well be driving. If you’re not 100% ready then you’ll be no use if something goes wrong. So it seems to me there’s no point (from a user’s perspective) of semi-autonomous (there’s certainly a point from a developer’s perspective). Go full-autonomous or go home.
 
Interesting, but I’m very skeptical that this is possible for apple by 2025.

From the company that brought you the voice assistant that can’t seem to understand anything you ask it: the self driving car that won’t let you drive. Don’t worry, it uses Apple Maps, so you’ll always never get where you want to go and somehow always end up going the wrong way on a one way street!
 
Seriously reminds me of The jetsons!

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How and in what way does the rumored fully autonomous with no steering wheel or pedals Apple Car remind you of the Jetsons' flying car?

The Jetsons' car can fly. The rumored Apple Car can't.
The Jetson's car has a manual control for steering. The rumored Apple Car doesn't.
The rumored Apple Car would be fully autonomous. The Jetsons' car isn't.
 
The Apple car chip is the most advanced component that Apple has developed internally and is made up primarily of neural processors that can handle the artificial intelligence needed for autonomous driving
From the same company that is responsible for Siri? Not seeing this at all. They've got a LOOOOOONG way to go!
 
I would be extremely surprised if Apple are able to make this a compelling product by 2025. Driving on motorways and clearly marked, well mapped, well maintained roads is easy, but cars need to be able to take you down knackered old roads, newly changed roads, roads in the middle of being resurfaced so having no markings, etc. It’s the 80-20 split isn’t it - the difficult 20% of use cases takes 80% of the development effort (probably more, I suspect). I think it’s unlikely Apple are miles ahead of anyone else on this, and if the industry as a whole were nearly there I think we’d have heard about it.
 
I feel like I wouldn’t feel 100% safe not having any ability to brake or swerve if needed. Technology fails all the time.
 
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The perfect design was created years ago. AI, bullet proof, scratch proof, self drive, manual drive, boost control, turbo mode.

Don't mess with this design or you will go wrong.

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And it has a glowy red NOTCH!
 
Who would buy a car with no steering wheel? Why even build a car that is not legal to sell? Sounds like a huge waste of resources to me.
 
While would love that to be true just seems so unrealistic. A car that you drive but with amazing AI like a suped up Tesla makes sense. Or if they just make software that makes sense. But for a car without steering wheel or pedals the only near term use case I could see if commercial use, think disney land, or corporate busses, etc. But that they mention is for customers to avoid fatgiue, that would imply a regular car that is 100% self driving since unimagineable. It would have to be able to hand every any any crazy situation and have 0 bugs, since with a phone a bug is one thing (the worst case is it freezes at a time when you need to call 911 to save your life) and thus a bug may indirectly cause death, but with a car bugs could be high likely to cause direct injury. Even Google isn't great at it, but Google's other tech such as Google assistant/voice is superior to Siri which often sitll cant handle basic commands, etc. Just hard to imagine how they could release a perfect light years ahead product when they and no one really has shown it to be possible.

Again, more likely , a couple years from now they will say again they are shifting the program to be something else, and ultiamtely will be software only, or corporate/public transportation focused, or if they ever a release a personal car, just can't imagine without tools to intervene, and if they did presumably limited to California or something since hard to imagine all states getting on bored until many years had past with 0 accidents.
 
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Apple is picking up its work on an Apple-designed car and is aiming to create a fully autonomous vehicle, reports Bloomberg. Apple is "refocusing" the project around full self-driving vehicles, a goal that other car manufacturers have not been able to achieve.

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Work on an Apple Car began way back in 2014, and since then, the project has gone through multiple transformations. At one point, rumors suggested Apple had abandoned its plans for a full vehicle and would instead focus on software, but rumors began picking up again in 2020. It's now been made clear that Apple intends to launch its own vehicle.

As Bloomberg explains, Apple worked on two vehicle paths, one with limited self-driving capabilities and a second with full self-driving functionality that does not require human intervention, and the company will now pursue this second path under the leadership of Kevin Lynch, who joined the project earlier this year. Apple has hit a "milestone" in developing the self-driving car system, and has finished the core work on the chip that will power the first car.

Apple wants to design a car that lacks a steering wheel or pedals, and with an interior that's aimed at hands-off driving. Bloomberg said that Apple has considered a design similar to the Lifestyle Vehicle from Canoo, in which passengers sit along the sides of the vehicle, facing one another.

Apple is still discussing the inclusion of a steering wheel, which may be required so people can take over in an emergency situation An iPad-like tablet could be in the middle of the vehicle, which passengers would be able to interact with.

Apple wants its car to be safer than those manufactured by Waymo and Tesla, with redundancies and failsafes to avoid failures. The vehicle will be electric, with Apple discussing charging that's compatible with the combined charging system so Apple vehicle owners can use a global network of chargers.

Using Lexus SUVs outfitted with LiDAR scanners and other equipment, Apple has been testing its self-driving system. Bloomberg says that Apple will test the new processor that it has developed in those cars, along with new self-driving sensors.

Apple is said to be aiming to launch its self-driving car in four years, which would put a debut right around 2025. Whether Apple will be able to hit that goal will depend on whether Apple can develop a full self-driving system. Should it not be able to meet its aims, Apple could delay launch or sell a car that's less technologically advanced. The timeline is aggressive, and Apple is ramping up hiring to meet deadlines.

Article Link: Apple Working Toward Fully Autonomous Car With No Steering Wheel or Pedals, Aiming to Launch in 2025
How about using the Apple AR glasses utilizing head control, kinda like an Apache helicopter that uses the headset to steer the weapon system?
 
I understand getting me from point A to point B in the general sense. But what if I need to back up 6 feet at a certain angle so I can get my car in position to pick up a piece of furniture or something? They must make it so that some type of manual control is possible, no? I've always wondered about this.
I was just thinking about these things too. How does it work if I for example would want to drive into a parking garage?
 
Naw, I’m good. Lol. I don’t trust technology that much especially not 3/4 years from now.
 
They can make it but it depends on each country to decide and legislate if they can sell and use those cars. Self driving cars with controls means the car occupants can still be in control and therefore liable. Self driving cars with no controls and the people in it are basically taxi passengers.

Come to think of it, it can be business thing around the world where they can implement it as a taxi system and operate as a fleet but not so much as something for individual ownership.
 
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