I don't know... The problem is, the Surface weighs too much to be a good tablet... it's almost 2x heavier than the iPad, and with the keyboard, I think it even weighs a bit more than the MB.
It doesn't make a great laptop either due to the crappy trackpad and the kickstand makes it hard to balance on your lap. And the OS is still schizo.
The build quality is nice and the touchscreen comes in handy at times, but many Windows laptops have touch screens with a real trackpad and keyboard that makes for a better overall experience IMO.
I agree and only want my mini for a consumption device. But I would like to see Apple evolve a Pro version to do so much more.I thought the iPad was always intended to be a consumption device, not a production tool.
The new Apple is now trying to manipulate square pegs into round holes for the sake of moving units, not the intended experience.
Having used the original Surface RT and the Surface Pro 3, it is amazing how fast you can type once you grow accustomed to the Type Cover.I use a Surface Pro 3 everyday with the Type keyboard. It works hoops around any iPad in multitasking and feels more robust and professional of a device then an iPad. It does not feel any heavier and your assumptions sound like you're not using the device yourself. It's fast, and my GOD the iPad has useless multitasking in this forum of use. The iPad is great for single app use. It's not great as a workhorse mobile device when it comes to the need to multitask. I use a mouse with my Surface and have no need for the track pad.
I use a Surface Pro 3 everyday with the Type keyboard. It works hoops around any iPad in multitasking and feels more robust and professional of a device then an iPad. It does not feel any heavier and your assumptions sound like you're not using the device yourself. It's fast, and my GOD the iPad has useless multitasking in this forum of use. The iPad is great for single app use. It's not great as a workhorse mobile device when it comes to the need to multitask. I use a mouse with my Surface and have no need for the track pad.
Ok, so out of the MILLIONS of businesses that DON’T/WON’T buy/run iPads what would suggest it is? Without a survey I don’t reckon he/she is too far from the truth.
IBM thinks???? You must be joking Sir. Have you ever experienced any of their enterprise products?Right because you've surveyed businesses and that's what they've told you. Obviously IBM doesn't think so and apparently neither do the 40 businesses Apple is working with in this story.
...that's true, as long as software continues to be written for typewriter interfaces. There is no way that in a thousand years, humans will still be trying to design houses and engineer mechanisms and illustrate graphics and control audio & video by using typewriters and a million memorized abbreviations while seated subordinately in front of a computer. We're already getting away from that now little by little and theres no going back.If we are talking about creating content there will never be a tablet as good as desktop/laptop devices. The closest one could come is a tablet with OS X and Pen input.
I agree but this thread is about making the Ipad useful as a productivity device. As that device today it needs work. It could use a new OS and multitasking. The wack-a-mole type of spring home page and double tap home button is great for single use, but needs more to compete with the Surface Pro 3, which has touch where the Mac Book Air does not.I agree that the surface pro is amazing and better than an iPad from productivity standpoint but they don't compete. It was made to compete more with the MacBook Air.
So adding pen capabilities to a tablet is innovating your arse off now? Didn't Microsoft tablet PCs have that functionality like 15 years a go?
Anyway I thought Apple was screwing things up with iOS now by making it too complex and it was so much better when it was simple under Steve Jobs.
I agree, a stylus would make the iPad more versatile. But never say never. Apple has a bunch of patents related to styluses.
Apple should also think about a more integrated detachable hardware keyboard which would essentially compete with ultrabooks, but I think it would move the needle.
Personally, if I had a choice between Mac or iPad "convertible", I'd choose an iPad... and this is coming from someone whose first Mac was a IIsi from way back in the day.
I was sure it would happen with Touch ID also, but we are still waiting. Bueller? Bueller?The irony is, Apple has patents dating back a few years related to multiuser logins - well before Android supported it. I was so sure Apple was going to support it when they included Touch ID on iPad but I guess that's not a priority for them.
Apple also doesn't want companies to refer to the program by its given name, MPP, in public.
I use a Surface Pro 3 everyday with the Type keyboard. It works hoops around any iPad in multitasking and feels more robust and professional of a device then an iPad. It does not feel any heavier and your assumptions sound like you're not using the device yourself. It's fast, and my GOD the iPad has useless multitasking in this forum of use. The iPad is great for single app use. It's not great as a workhorse mobile device when it comes to the need to multitask. I use a mouse with my Surface and have no need for the track pad.
Really? What on earth is so great with 10! I've been using MS crap, by choice (sic) or by force since 1990, so it's not like I'm a newcomer here. At best, they're mobile side is catching up with IOS and their OS side is catching up with OS X... without the tight integration between components Apple already has.
Considering the underpinning of IOS and OS X is essentially the same, how much effort do you think it would take to extend OS X with a touch interface and some IOS trappings... Not long at all. They developed the whole WatchOS thing in 2 years to become a sophisticated adjunct to IOS and OS X.
Windows 10 is not even complete, and won't probably be until next year (that'S when businesses will start to upgrade). Right now it seems like an decent hybrid of 7 and 8.1 with some IOS and OS X extra thrown in. Nothing to write home about.
Apple is really trying its best to get iOS (focus: the iPad) into the large Fortune 500 companies.
The message is:
Stop using IT like in the early 2000's. IT departments were determining how the employee works by disabling features on desktop PC's.
Start using mobile IT. You, as the end-user have the force. IT departments focus on enabling mobility.
Apple is trying to let large companies change the way they look at IT. Enabling the employee is the key for Apple. But that is hard as most of the Fortune 500's are used to the IT being "guarded" by their IT departments.
Using an MDM combined with DEP & VPP helps the IT departments still feel "in control" of IT, even when using iOS devices. Once iOS 9 eliminates the need for an Apple ID on the iPad to push managed apps, the systems administrators will feel even more comfortable.
iOS is secure and easy to use. That is a great start for the employee.
Forced Mobile Device Management and the diminishing need for an Apple ID is a great start for the IT departments.
That's the software side of things....
Like others have questioned: do these Fortune 500's also want other "hardware"?
- Mouse support?
- Larger screen?
- More storage connectivity?
- More robustness?
- ..etc?
This is definitely Tim Cook leading Apple here. I can't imagine the same strategy being implemented by Steve Jobs.
There are many manufacturing plant environments where the EM emission from a cell phone has contributed to an explosion of volatile gases in an unvented chamber.
1. The Surface is MUCH heavier than an iPad. The iPad weighs less than a pound. The Surface is 1.75 lbs. saying that you don't notice a difference sounds like blatant fanboyism.
2. I agree, the Surface is better as a general productivity tool than an iPad; like any laptop (PC or Mac) which the Surface has more in common with than a tablet due to its weight and schizo/hybrid UI.
3.The fact that you use a mouse with your Surface (like many folks in my office who use a Surface) proves my point that the Surface has a crappy trackpad, making it a less than ideal laptop.
If you enjoy using it, more power to you. All I'm saying is that it's not a good choice for most people... there are better laptops, hybrids and tablets because the Surface doesn't know what it wants to be. So while MS calls it a tablet, it's ironic that everyone I know who has one uses it like a laptop.
There are several cases. Looking them up is an exercise for the reader.Nonsense. Show me even one case where it is established (not hypothesized) that EM emissions from a cell phone caused an explosion.
Agreed 100%. Apple doubtless has realized that too, and is probably having high hopes the rumored iPadPro together with this business-focussed initiative will bolster their 'lagging', or should I say disappointing, tablet effort, once more raising it to new heights.Ultimately it's the limiting OS that runs the iPad that's holding it back, nothing an app will do to fix that
its not that simple. it requires a whole different screen sensitivity