This is a hardware issue, not software. They should have just put the seam at the top of the unit.
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AppleCare Training Document on iPhone 4 Signal Issues Revealed
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I don't see any fix coming either. Maybe some software update to change how the iPhone looks for signal, but don't touch the bottom left still, because that's a HARDWARE problem. It's just stupid they put it on the bottom left where I'd guess 90% of their customers hold the phone. Hell - look at all the official iPhone photos Apple posted.
Wish they'd just get this stupid thing fixed. The inability to make and handle phone calls with this thing is unbelievable. I'd hate to lose the newer screen and cameras, but my darn 3GS handle phone calls with ease and I wonder if best to return it and just wait for all these problems to be resolved and then upgrade again.
What I don't understand is, why not put the break on the top of the phone instead of the bottom? Who holds their phone from the top? Even on the right side would be better as most people are right handed and hold the phone in their left hand so they can tap with their right hand fingers.
But anyway yeah, this is starting to look really bad for Apple. It definitely seems to be a design flaw that is widespread in who it effects and that amazingly no one caught before it was released.
But anyway yeah, this is starting to look really bad for Apple. It definitely seems to be a design flaw that is widespread in who it effects and that amazingly no one caught before it was released.
^^^^ This.
I'm thinking I'll be OK with a bumper though.
Not happy, but sure not angry either. So far, I can't find anything else to complain about. Damn fine phone overall.
Glass on both sides, and slippery as hell, but you're forced to hold it in an uncomfortable and unnatural position (at least I am), with glass known to be very prone to shattering after just a few drops, but broken glass not covered by warranty, and the replacement of which also necessitates the replacement of the screen, with a gyro that may be leading the phone towards a fall if it's not on a completely level surface, and the uglyass bumper not giving proper access to the mute switch or the headphone jack -- FLUNK (the new FAIL)
It amazes me that early adopters are shocked, shocked to find something wrong with a new product. It comes with the territory. I'm with Apple on this one. They'll fix it eventually, but let's not forget the most important thing: You have an iPhone 4 and 308 million people in the country don't.
Yay, you!
Yay, you!
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It's pretty bad that they say they will not "appease" the customer with a free bumper. Appease is a word that has a pretty heavy handed message of saying that the customer is the enemy and you're giving in against principle to make peace. The customer is not an enemy by being upset that a phone they paid $600-700 with subsidies won't work properly.
when will this retarded "FAIL" meme go away?
Every now and then I actually still hear people say "not!"... so I'm guess maybe in 10 to 20 years.
I haven't had this trouble with my iPhone. Then again, I left the store with a bumper on my phone from the get-go.
I'm sorry so many are having issues. The signal reception is at least as good as on my 3GS - and I believe actually better.
I'm sorry so many are having issues. The signal reception is at least as good as on my 3GS - and I believe actually better.
I don't think software can fix it--it is a physical problem. Bridging the antennas with a conductive surface (i.e. skin) will change the effective length of the antenna. The antenna lengths are exactly determined in order to resonant. When that length is changed, it loses resonance and is no longer as sensitive. It would also affect the transmission effectiveness of the phone.
Probably an invisible non-conductive coating would've solved the problem. But there's no way to fix it without physical modification.
Not really a big deal in my opinion. I guess people can sound real upset and get their $10 from the class action suit while making a rich man of some lawyer and hurting the value of their Apple stock by 30 cents.
Probably an invisible non-conductive coating would've solved the problem. But there's no way to fix it without physical modification.
Not really a big deal in my opinion. I guess people can sound real upset and get their $10 from the class action suit while making a rich man of some lawyer and hurting the value of their Apple stock by 30 cents.
elaborate. this is a phyiscal issue. if it was fixable by software, Apple would have said something. They always let us know that software fixes are on the way, especially for a problem as loud as this. Software will not make my hands touching the phone makes my signal disintegrate problem go away.
THis is a problem because this will directly hurt my resale value of my phone when it's time to pony up for iPhone 5.
it doesnt work
The iphone 4 just doesnt work. I got mine yesterday, i miss calls when i hold it. The rest of the device is amazing, speed, resolution features etc, but it is just unusable for right handed and left handed people.
I love the iphone and have had one since they were released. I hope Apple are prepared to admit something is wrong.
The iphone 4 just doesnt work. I got mine yesterday, i miss calls when i hold it. The rest of the device is amazing, speed, resolution features etc, but it is just unusable for right handed and left handed people.
I love the iphone and have had one since they were released. I hope Apple are prepared to admit something is wrong.
when will this retarded "FAIL" meme go away?
It's slowly being replaced by the "<INSERT PHRASE> much?" meme that's even more retarded.
As for this training document.....this is not good. Not at all.
this is pathetic...there is a problem a big one.
it is not convinient to change the position of the phone in your hand all the time.
...and the bumper solution LOL!!
If that's the case, then Apple should be giving the bumpers away free of charge.
I am finding it amazing that some people continue to deny there is a problem, Apple's answers and actions so far clearly show there is a problem, how can die hard fanbois even not deny this. It's poor.
it is not convinient to change the position of the phone in your hand all the time.
...and the bumper solution LOL!!
If that's the case, then Apple should be giving the bumpers away free of charge.
I am finding it amazing that some people continue to deny there is a problem, Apple's answers and actions so far clearly show there is a problem, how can die hard fanbois even not deny this. It's poor.
Same issue even with bumper ON
I had the same issue and WITH the bumper on! In some locations not a problem. Yet in one location with 4 bars on signal I sat and held the bottom corner as I usually do when making a call, the signal went down to almost nothing within about a minute.
I had the same issue and WITH the bumper on! In some locations not a problem. Yet in one location with 4 bars on signal I sat and held the bottom corner as I usually do when making a call, the signal went down to almost nothing within about a minute.