Philsy said:Hey, yes - come over here and smell some burning petrol
I hear that France is downwind...they'll probably complain that it will improve the smell of their famously stinky Normandy cheeses
-hh
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I hear that France is downwind...they'll probably complain that it will improve the smell of their famously stinky Normandy cheeses
-hh
This sounds very interesting. I have been looking and the Roku unit for a while and the big downside to it is that it does NOT play protected AAC files, so anything that you purchase form ITMS will NOT stream. Bummer if you have a large purchased collection or just like the free weekly downloads.
It would be nice to control itunes from my couch. I know there are arternative ways to do this but, if apple could make it easier I would defiantly check it out.
Indeed January is starting to look very interesting. Is apple stock going to hit $100.00 in 2006? It will if intel and the ipod does well.
Indeed January is starting to look very interesting. Is apple stock going to hit $100.00 in 2006? It will if intel and the ipod does well.
mklos said:
You think Apple spends 140+ million dollars on R&D per quarter for the iPod?
Nope... they are working on Mac OS X, iLife, many professional applications, Macintosh hardware, various research projects (that may never see the light of day) in addition to the iPod.
Anyway the iPod is the best thing going for Apple at this time, for them to ignore it would kill it and would kill the mind share it is giving Apple... mind share that is translating in Macintosh hardware sales.
Apple has proven in the last few years that they can build relevant and diverse products (even when hobbled by unrealized G4/G5 power & performance goals, the Intel switch should allow them break away from that).
-hh said:
sure it does - I don't want to carry around something the size of mac mini for a "portable" device. The beauty of an MP3 player is that it gives me the capability to carry my entire music collection in 1 small portable device...a mac mini - or something that size - is not exactly what I would call "small" or "portable".
very very interesting...
front row ~ only available on new imac. why not release it for sale? apple is a software revenue company who is very very dependent on strong software sales, why wouldn't they release it to cash in on the money?
because..
this device could also include streaming video and photos. if front row is on these new devices (and they have video out) then you would have to get one to use the software.
you want front row, you have to get a new toy. if apple made front row available for all macs with video out (which are lots...) then all these people would be in much less need for this new product. Why spend $130-150 on a hardware device that lets you do something $50 software can ~ exactly why apple has not made front row available for sale.
hmm... will be interesting to see what comes in january!
front row ~ only available on new imac. why not release it for sale? apple is a software revenue company who is very very dependent on strong software sales, why wouldn't they release it to cash in on the money?
because..
this device could also include streaming video and photos. if front row is on these new devices (and they have video out) then you would have to get one to use the software.
you want front row, you have to get a new toy. if apple made front row available for all macs with video out (which are lots...
) then all these people would be in much less need for this new product. Why spend $130-150 on a hardware device that lets you do something $50 software can ~ exactly why apple has not made front row available for sale.hmm... will be interesting to see what comes in january!
RE: device size - does it really matter?
Sure, but the rumor is for a "Boom Box", not a tiny nano device.
YMMV on what size footprint the generic description of "Boom Box" does for you, but for me, I envision something like this size...or larger:
With this as a starting point for product packaging, I look at the center volume of this box and say to myself that its sufficient to swallow *several* iPods...pretty much anything up to roughly the volume of a mac mini, athough that won't include a battery.
From there, to build an iPod powered version of the above, its just an engineering design exercise: with an available product volume of "X", how much do you want to use for battery, for hard drive, for electronics, etc...(and ending with "how much volume to simply eliminate?")
Industrial Design itself only goes so far...you then have to look at the costs of your various components' choices and the trade-offs that they result in. My basic point is that there's no justification to use a 1.8" hard drive when there's adequate volume (and power) to use a cheaper 2.5" HD instead.
Sure...I agree. My point is that I don't generally see people on the streets carrying around Boom Boxes anymore. The last time I really saw that, Disco was still alive
As such, even though it may be still called a "Boom Box", the consumers of this product doesn't use them like they used to in the 1970's - - they're much more likely to be something sitting on a picnic table or in someone's dorm room - - - not sitting on a guy's shoulder walking down a city street. As such, the consumer's marketplace desires for the product's form factor and weight aren't necessarily going to be the most important - - it can very well end up being other factors, such as capacity, playtime, and product cost.
Since the iPod already has the "small/portable" market defined and dominated, a "Boom Box" form factor logically has to be for a different market segment that doesn't put such emphasis on small/portable.
For an analogy, this rumor is that Apple is building a truck and you said that your preference is for a motorcycle. All I'm saying is that a truck isn't a motorcycle, and a motorcycle isn't a truck: yes, they're both transportation products, but they're different enough so as to cater to different consumer market segments.
-hh
Proud Liberal said:
Sure, but the rumor is for a "Boom Box", not a tiny nano device.
YMMV on what size footprint the generic description of "Boom Box" does for you, but for me, I envision something like this size...or larger:
With this as a starting point for product packaging, I look at the center volume of this box and say to myself that its sufficient to swallow *several* iPods...pretty much anything up to roughly the volume of a mac mini, athough that won't include a battery.
From there, to build an iPod powered version of the above, its just an engineering design exercise: with an available product volume of "X", how much do you want to use for battery, for hard drive, for electronics, etc...(and ending with "how much volume to simply eliminate?")
Industrial Design itself only goes so far...you then have to look at the costs of your various components' choices and the trade-offs that they result in. My basic point is that there's no justification to use a 1.8" hard drive when there's adequate volume (and power) to use a cheaper 2.5" HD instead.
Sure...I agree. My point is that I don't generally see people on the streets carrying around Boom Boxes anymore. The last time I really saw that, Disco was still alive
As such, even though it may be still called a "Boom Box", the consumers of this product doesn't use them like they used to in the 1970's - - they're much more likely to be something sitting on a picnic table or in someone's dorm room - - - not sitting on a guy's shoulder walking down a city street. As such, the consumer's marketplace desires for the product's form factor and weight aren't necessarily going to be the most important - - it can very well end up being other factors, such as capacity, playtime, and product cost.
Since the iPod already has the "small/portable" market defined and dominated, a "Boom Box" form factor logically has to be for a different market segment that doesn't put such emphasis on small/portable.
For an analogy, this rumor is that Apple is building a truck and you said that your preference is for a motorcycle. All I'm saying is that a truck isn't a motorcycle, and a motorcycle isn't a truck: yes, they're both transportation products, but they're different enough so as to cater to different consumer market segments.
-hh
Could it just be Apple making the speaker, that is for the generic alarm, usable for playing music without the headphones.
aricher said:
The reason it is slow is because it it letterally send the audio/video across the line to be re-recorded by the second TIVO. IT really should just be a file you send. I wish they would improve that, otherwise, I really like TIVO. I would love to see a Mac Hardware box that ran OSX, and all the goodies with a wireless keyboard/mouse, and had a TIVO expansion to Front Row.
They also need to make Front Row be expandable to third party plugins. I would love to use VLC as a player for movies, instead of quicktime. etc.
I've been very interested in all the speculation that has gone on here. All I can say is:
Jan 8, 2006 - 24 Season Premiere (and my birthday)
Jan 9, 2006 - Another 24 Episode
Jan 10, 2006 - MWSF Keynote
Three days of bliss.
Jan 8, 2006 - 24 Season Premiere (and my birthday)
Jan 9, 2006 - Another 24 Episode
Jan 10, 2006 - MWSF Keynote
Three days of bliss.
-hh said:RE: device size - does it really matter?
Sure, but the rumor is for a "Boom Box", not a tiny nano device.
YMMV on what size footprint the generic description of "Boom Box" does for you, but for me, I envision something like this size...or larger:
-hh
...is this guy for real!!!!!
It must be almost sacriligious to post such an ugly image!
doogle said:...is this guy for real!!!!!
It must be almost sacriligious to post such an ugly image!
Consider yourself lucky: Try taking a gander at what "Boom Box" returns on Google Images...this was one of the least ugly.
-hh
Hey everyone. You all seem to be focusing on the apple 'boombox' device. Does it say that apple was releasing ipod companions? That means more than 1! Does anyone have any ideas on what the other devices may be? Do you think that this boombox will be over 500 Australian Dollars? Well thanks in advance
doogle said:Sorry hh I do no buy the excuse you took the first image that appeared!!
Actually, when I first Googled it, it wasn't the very first image: it was on the lower half of the page, after the image with the "dudes". I also looked through pages 2 and 3 to see if anyone made an "Apple White" design, but didn't see any, so I went back to the JVC.
In any event, I can safely say that even though my high school graduation photo was taken in a Leisure Suit (no, I will NOT provide a photo!), I've never, ever, owned a boom box.
-hh
RDF 3.7b
Steve is going to Demo his latest Reality Distortion Field version 3.7b. After the whole cancer causing feedback problem in 3.6 has been worked out. Now he has 3.7 working great, he is going to really be able to WOW us!
I hear with 3.7 he can now bend light like butter!
Steve is going to Demo his latest Reality Distortion Field version 3.7b. After the whole cancer causing feedback problem in 3.6 has been worked out. Now he has 3.7 working great, he is going to really be able to WOW us!
I hear with 3.7 he can now bend light like butter!
wireless speakers...
sorry folks, but your wireless speaker idea will not happen.Speakers are capable of being fed info from airport/bluetooth, but, need an amplifier and power to transfer that signal into audio. So, you cut the tiny speaker wire, and add an ac power cable, or wall wart for each speaker, as well as large, hot, heavy speakers.
As much as Tesla tried long ago, we cannot transfer 100 watts rms over RF signals, nor over infrared. Not even 5 watts. The day that electrical outlets exist no more, and all electricity can be transferred over RF, to all your home appliances, you will get these speakers. Until then, expect wire. I wish my blender or refrigerator did not have to be plugged in, but they do, and so do our speakers.
sorry folks, but your wireless speaker idea will not happen.Speakers are capable of being fed info from airport/bluetooth, but, need an amplifier and power to transfer that signal into audio. So, you cut the tiny speaker wire, and add an ac power cable, or wall wart for each speaker, as well as large, hot, heavy speakers.
As much as Tesla tried long ago, we cannot transfer 100 watts rms over RF signals, nor over infrared. Not even 5 watts. The day that electrical outlets exist no more, and all electricity can be transferred over RF, to all your home appliances, you will get these speakers. Until then, expect wire. I wish my blender or refrigerator did not have to be plugged in, but they do, and so do our speakers.
rosalindavenue said:
exactly - the current dock, and a £2 cable!
i'd love to see a dock that outputs front row to a tv, with a fully functioning remote - effectively turning your iPod into a media hub, and foregoing the need - not to mention expense - of getting a mac mini. of course, it wouldn't have the PVR functionality - but for music, videos, photos (all the stuff on your iPod) it would be a great solution.
griffin are just releasing something along these lines - but an apple one with front row would be better i think.
Iain