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Again these could easily sit behind the screen, removing the chin

Their aim was to make it look light and their mission is to have the computer disappear so they went with thickness. It's nothing new, they have been focussing on thickness throughout the past generations of the iMac.

I mean, look at it, that is pretty amazing if you ask me.

Removing the chin and sticking everything on the back would not have been as dramatic. The chin is part of the design and I doubt it will ever disappear. It's like hoping BMW will remove their kidney shaped grille.

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You’re right, white bezels do match these colors better. I guess its more the colors I’m not crazy about, although I’m sure many will love them.
Actually, they referred to them as "light grey" during the presentation so curious to actually see them for real.
 
Again, if I want to use wired computer speakers I now have to swallow having a cable sticking out from the side of the iMac (which is horrific). All done in the name of getting a desktop machine (that you'll never probably move) to be as thin as possible.
Perhaps you'll find that the new speaker systems sounds better then the wired computer speakers that you own and won't hook them up anymore.
 
No, I really don't. My criticism is completely legit. And this idea that people don't know what ethernet is absolutely absurd.
My mother doesn't know what it is and I know plenty of people who honestly don't care. I think these are the people that are the main demographic. (all of them know WiFi though).
 
Their aim was to make it look light and their mission is to have the computer disappear so they went with thickness. It's nothing new, they have been focussing on thickness throughout the past generations of the iMac.

I mean, look at it, that is pretty amazing if you ask me.

Removing the chin and sticking everything on the back would not have been as dramatic. The chin is part of the design and I doubt it will ever disappear. It's like hoping BMW will remove their kidney shaped grille.

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I get your point. But you're looking at the front of your computer all day, not the side.

Also the chin wasn't part of the iMac G4, they built it into the base. They could've done something similar
 
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My mother doesn't know what it is and I know plenty of people who honestly don't care. I think these are the people that are the main demographic. (all of them know WiFi though).
Of course there are some that don't. The point is that there is no reason not to include it in a $1,300 machine. The idea that you have to pay more for that horrible power brick to get ethernet on it or a more expensive iMac model is so ridiculous.
 
WiFi 6/6e will achieve said speeds in optimal settings. However there are a variety of reasons why a wired ethernet connection is going to give you the faster speeds in comparison in most use cases. You also can include an ethernet port and simply not choose to use it. There is literally no reason not to offer such an option for your $1,300 base model machine without having to pay extra for it. (In the form of that horrific new power brick or an upgraded iMac model.)

Again, if I want to use wired computer speakers I now have to swallow having a cable sticking out from the side of the iMac (which is horrific). All done in the name of getting a desktop machine (that you'll never probably move) to be as thin as possible.
I would insert a picture of an inch thick G3 PowerBook with SCSI port, ADB, Serial, and CD drive etc if I thought it would make a difference. The consumers who are going to buy it vastly outweigh naysayers and they are the users who don’t use their computer within 6 feet of a router. They just want to access the internet, not save a 200gb 8k h265 Final Cut Pro source file to their RAID storage array.

For the rest there are thunderbolt ports that allow the addition of probably any other port you like.
 
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I would insert a picture of an inch thick G3 PowerBook with SCSI port, ADB, Serial, and CD drive etc if I thought it would make a difference. The consumers who are going to buy it vastly outweigh naysayers and they are the users who don’t use their computer within 6 feet of a router. They just want to access the internet, not save a 200gb 8k h265 Final Cut Pro source file to their RAID storage array.

For the rest there are thunderbolt ports that allow the addition of probably any other port you like.
Wanting the fastest speeds available to you has nothing to do with using something like Final Cut Pro.

Given how few ports there are now on the base model iMac consumers don’t have the luxury to depend on Thunderbolt.
 
Does anyone think we will see more of a mid tier option? Just based on reading posts in all of the iMac threads, this release appears to be low end and it is expect the larger screen would be higher end.
 
Wanting the fastest speeds available to you has nothing to do with using something like Final Cut Pro.

Given how few ports there are now on the base model iMac consumers don’t have the luxury to depend on Thunderbolt.
'fastest speeds available'? I don't think an average consumer even cares - if you're not transferring bulk files in the 100s gig/Terabyte range from a Mac to a RAID box what is it that you are doing that requires the absolute fastest network avalable?

And if that's the case is your home fully cabled up for 10Gig Ethernet with CAT7 and Cisco switches? Because you're doing yourself a disservice if you really mean 'fastest speeds available'.

The base model of the 24" is, like the 21.5" base model, a red herring there to up-sell people to higher SKUs but I can appreciate that some people may only need or afford the base model. After all, there's USB-C hubs to inexpensively add any other ports required so they don't in fact need to spend hundeds of dollars on a Thunderbolt hub.

Bottom line - Wifi is completely sufficient and convenient for the average user - and that's not me saying it - Apple adding Wifi 6 with the ARM Macs pretty much says it for me. And I imagine consumers will lap it up - it's just amazing how much projection is going on these days.

"I didn't get the Mac that I wanted therefore Apple will go bankrupt because [product] will fail."
 
'fastest speeds available'? I don't think an average consumer even cares - if you're not transferring bulk files in the 100s gig/Terabyte range from a Mac to a RAID box what is it that you are doing that requires the absolute fastest network avalable?

And if that's the case is your home fully cabled up for 10Gig Ethernet with CAT7 and Cisco switches? Because you're doing yourself a disservice if you really mean 'fastest speeds available'.

The base model of the 24" is, like the 21.5" base model, a red herring there to up-sell people to higher SKUs but I can appreciate that some people may only need or afford the base model. After all, there's USB-C hubs to inexpensively add any other ports required so they don't in fact need to spend hundeds of dollars on a Thunderbolt hub.

Bottom line - Wifi is completely sufficient and convenient for the average user - and that's not me saying it - Apple adding Wifi 6 with the ARM Macs pretty much says it for me. And I imagine consumers will lap it up - it's just amazing how much projection is going on these days.

"I didn't get the Mac that I wanted therefore Apple will go bankrupt because [product] will fail."
People care. ISP's advertise gigabit speeds all the time now.

People want what they are paying for. Gaming, streaming, etc, are all best with the fastest speeds you can get. Especially true with multiple family members using the same network at the same time.

No one is saying Apple will fail. Or that this iMac will. There is just a lot to dislike here.
 
People care. ISP's advertise gigabit speeds all the time now.

People want what they are paying for. Gaming, streaming, etc, are all best with the fastest speeds you can get. Especially true with multiple family members using the same network at the same time.

No one is saying Apple will fail. Or that this iMac will. There is just a lot to dislike here.

And what's the monthly fee for gigabit internet with your ISP? I don't think it's exceptionally common in the UK, prices are from 62 quid a month with Virgin Media cable in the UK for instance. fast fibre FTTC at 72Mb/s down/20Mb up can be had for less than half that and that's plenty for average use. And yes Gigabit would benefit big families all using the connection simultaneously but I'm baffled at your implication that you'll get all that data to consistently arrive at a single Mac at full speed and presumably without lag when the house is full of family members all gaming or streaming at the same time.

I'd ask if you're constantly backing up your FCP VFX projects with multi Tb files to a cloud provider but you've not really offered any clues as to what you'd use Gigabit internet for - never mind a RAID box, do you even copy files peer to peer with another Mac in your home network?

Or is it just 'super fast internet access' that you're wanting to make the best use of without being bottlenecked by a perceived number on a website? How many of these prospective iMac buyers have gigabit internet then? Wouldn't you think that anyone paying for Gigabit internet would actually be throwing down Mac Pro money on a Mac rather than crying over a port light bog standard iMac? And would all of these families then be fully wired up to desktop Macs when everyone accepts laptops (all on wifi) are now the modern standard? It stands to reason when these folks have tablets and phones which are ALL on wifi too.

I'm not in the least bit surprised that laptops make up the huge majority of Mac sales - it's the modern way like it or not - remember Apple make as much from iPads as they do from all Macs.

Back to the new iMac though - Yes, there's some design choices that wouldn't be to the taste of many folks here but I'm not altogether bothered about connectivity because Apple provide Thunderbolt ports for flexibility - and remember the amount of crying over ports being stuck on the back of a big panel iMac? You can just use a hub and get much more accessible ports of your choice depending on the one you purchase if you choose not to use the one in the power brick.
 
And why would someone exactly need a 4.5K 23.5" display?
the .5 is just the size difference with the bigger display this system has over the older 21.5" Apples crack marketing group spun the added desktop space instead of focusing on the real dimensions of the screen!
 
People care. ISP's advertise gigabit speeds all the time now.

People want what they are paying for. Gaming, streaming, etc, are all best with the fastest speeds you can get. Especially true with multiple family members using the same network at the same time.

No one is saying Apple will fail. Or that this iMac will. There is just a lot to dislike here.
This system is for low end eye candy crowd its not a advanced amateur or pro system.
 
Okay, this is friggin cool as heck. I've been wanting to see colors come back for so long. Enough sterile gray. But those specs...some of us need ALL the RAM. I have 64GB in my 2020 Intel iMac and I use it.
Apple is only offering 8GB of RAM and I suspect you might be able to get 16 max with the 512GB storage model, but that will be later!

Sounds like you want one of the next wave of systems which will be the next generation of M SOC's (M1x or M2).
 
Looking at the video, they didn't appear to be a trap door on the back, to install your own ram :mad:
Correct, no doors it is what you buy and that's it! As the RAM and storage are both soldered to the logic board like the other M1 systems (so far).
 
I think everyone is in shock about the design because the iMac hasn't changed in so long. I actually like this better than a black bezel no chin design. This is a modern take on the G3 iMac that saved apple back in the day and imo it makes the Mac fun again! The white bezels are definitely polarizing but again they remind me of old Macs. These aren't pro machines and I wouldn't hold my breathe for a chin-less iMac 32 inch anytime soon, the chin is what makes it an iMac and it isn't going anywhere.
 
Sooo... given the Pro Display XDR is 2.7 cm thick, and the new iMac is 1.15 cm thick, it should be no problem to make a 32" iMac that looks almost exactly like the Pro Display. Just add webcam and some additional ports. Would suit me just fine.

I wouldn't even mind having a separate power brick if it meant that I could get rid of the ethernet cable. If the power brick also had a thunderbolt port it would open up even more possibilities for a clean setup.

Don't really care if the iMac is super thin, but I would really like to get rid of that bezel.

The next wave of systems will be aimed at the advanced and Pro market. Hopefully Apple creates something that we need and can use besides the pretty colors!

And I agree! This thin is not in for a Pro level system! Add the pounds Apple, I want a fat and juicy system. Give it ports and give it expansion possibilities internally!
 
The next wave of systems will be aimed at the advanced and Pro market. Hopefully Apple creates something that we need and can use besides the pretty colors!

And I agree! This thin is not in for a Pro level system! Add the pounds Apple, I want a fat and juicy system. Give it ports and give it expansion possibilities internally!
You'd expect it to be thicker because of the expected mini-LED screen and cooling solution, not quite so sure about an expansion possibilities beyond expecting 4 Thunderbolt ports.
 
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