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Hopefully this will be the 15 inch MacBook Air. While a thin MBP would be also nice, MBP needs to have dedicated graphics, while MBA doesn't need to and there isn't much space for proper cooling in the thin Air design.
 
Contrary to popular belief amongst many on this forum, Apple will NOT be killing the optical disk anytime soon.

1. CDs, like vinyl, are going nowhere for many, many years to come. When I go see a local indie rock band or am impressed by an opening act, they can do one of two things at their merch table: A) sell me a CD (probably the cheapest viable option for them) or a piece of vinyl (preferably with a digital download) right there on the spot while the impact of their music is fresh in my mind (they get $5-$20 from me)... or B) tell me that their music is "available online", in which case I will go home and in all likelihood forget to purchase their music, and they get NO MONEY from me. iTMS is great, but if you go to or play shows, that's just how it is. I don't see this changing due to anything Apple does.

Interesting revelation which seems fairly thoughtful. I'd like to see the optical drive disappear from the forthcoming 15" MBP, but I surmise this rumor will end up being a 15" Air. The current 15" MB Pro line-up is appropriate for my purposes of FCPX: i7 quad, 1gb vram, can handle 16gb ram according to OCW tests. On the used market, these 2011 models are affordable, and most are still under warranty. But I won't buy one in hopes that the next MB Pro might dump the optical drive.

Concerning bands at nightclubs..... because I'm not a disc fan, I prefer to buy a card with a download code on it. I think this is an effective way for bands to sell wares at shows. Unlike a simple URL, I don't do disregard a card I paid for. I download right away.
 
You are probably young enough that you don't consider burning DVDs with irreplaceable family photos.

I'm only young enough to remember dialing BBSs with my dynamic coupler.

Why would I backup photos on a DVD that can be scratched, damaged, deteriorate and require use of a medium that will inevitably rely on outdated hardware to read? All of my photos/documents are backed up online on multiple sites. And the most important photos are shared with many family members increasing redundancy.
 
This is by far the funniest thing I have read all day. I don't think this guy gets out much or reads any other tech/computer news.

Let me add to your list:

A lot of other companies come together to make USB - Apple Follows!
Apple created Firewire and NO ONE FOLLOWS!
Actually, Apple was the first real user of USB. M$ lagged on Windows support, so it didn't really matter if Dell included it or not, often failed to work the first couple years.

Maybe you shouldn't put too much weight behind "announcements", and pay attention to actual events.
 
Contrary to popular belief amongst many on this forum, Apple will NOT be killing the optical disk anytime soon. They can remove them from ALL of their machines and even cease production of external SuperDrives, but the optical disk is far too ubiqitous and multi-purposed (unlike the floppy, which had only one purpose) to be "killed" by Apple.

And as long as their is a USB or Thunderbolt port on Apple machines, there will be many, many people using said optical disks with their Macs for many, many years to come.


Here are some examples:

1. CDs, like vinyl, are going nowhere for many, many years to come. When I go see a local indie rock band or am impressed by an opening act, they can do one of two things at their merch table: A) sell me a CD (probably the cheapest viable option for them) or a piece of vinyl (preferably with a digital download) right there on the spot while the impact of their music is fresh in my mind (they get $5-$20 from me)... or B) tell me that their music is "available online", in which case I will go home and in all likelihood forget to purchase their music, and they get NO MONEY from me. iTMS is great, but if you go to or play shows, that's just how it is. I don't see this changing due to anything Apple does.

(Also, I should mention, the first thing I do with my new CD or vinyl w/ download code is import into iTunes).

Also, many people I know still burn "mix CDs" for each other. You can laugh, but it happens. =)

2. No one I know is preparing to toss their DVD collection anytime soon, if ever. Very few geeks (sorry, you are geeks... i mean it in a good way) rip DVDs to their computers (whereas many, but not all, people I know rip their CDs). DVD sales, DVD players, etc. will go on for years, regardless of Apple.

3. Many I know are finally starting to migrate to Blu-Rays. Netflix, Hulu, iTunes, etc. haven't killed the Blu-Ray yet, and I don't think they are ready to do so anytime soon.

4. Backing things up to DVD still makes a lot of sense in many cases, as long as it isn't your only method of back-up. Online back-up? Awesome. I do love DropBox. But, Ummm... who moved my iDisk??? (Gimme a break). That was a dick move, Apple. Also, burning someone a DVD or Blu of a wedding still has that "keepsake" factor. In many instances, there's a lot to be said for having a hard, non-erasable copy. I'm not sure providing a download link or handing someone a thumb drive is quite the same thing.

5. I'd also be very surprised if the major video game console makers ditch optical disks anytime soon.

If anything, Apple will kill optical disks for distribution of Mac software. Which is fine. But kill the "optical disk"...? Please. The floppy never really penetrated beyond distribution of computer software, as the optical disk has. So the comparison is moot.

I'm sure this post will get voted negative, and that many (some valid) exceptions to my examples will be explained. Nonetheless, I'll bet in 10 years the optical disk is still around, and plentiful, for at least some of the above applications.


EDIT: ooops, sorry that rant was kinda.... long... sorry. I know it's a little off-topic, but these MBA/Air Pro rumors always turn into "Apple is gonna kill the optical disk!" rallies. So...... there ya go.

You should really have made your name "A KID" because you clearly don't understand how apple works.

Your point 1. Apple doesnt care about indie rock bands, and they believe that they need to put there stuff on itunes so they can make money, that is the extent of their love for indie bands.

2. dvd colletion? hah! apple is trying to be the hegimon of over the air dvd streaming, and dvd sales are getting in their way. Copy your stuff over to a hard drive, its 2011.

3) apple will never put a blu ray drive in anything, if it hasnt been done by now, its not going to happen.

4) have you ever backed up ANYTHING in your life? DVD's are the worste ways to back stuff up. I have 1tb of stuff on my local computer, mostly hi res pictures form my camera, but if you told me to back all of that up on cds it would take hours and a hundred + cds, youd need a database to know where all of your files are. buy a 80 dollar 2tb hd and be done with it, its way faster, condensed and better.

5) video game companys have moved souly to online distrobution, it cuts down cost, and shortages of your product (cant sell out of a digital copy) they can also centralize all buying through networks like steam. Apple doesnt even distribute software through cd's dvds anymore, its all through the app store.

ignorance is bliss i guess.
 
I agree with you about needs changing. I actually use my girlfriends 13 MBP every once in a while around the house and was planning on purchasing one myself, however I seem to be using my iPad, iPhone 4s and ATV2 more than anything else around the house. Although, I do use the MBP whenever I'm looking at YouTube Videos, the YouTube search on the iPhone and ATV2 is just not as good as the computer one. I need to figure out how to hear play YouTube videos from the MacBook Pro to the Apple TV 2. Not to mention Siri really makes commenting on threads soo much easier. : )
It's funny how needs change.

When I bought my current laptop (13" MacBook Pro) three years ago. I wanted a small laptop for work and home since I was then using the laptop in the living room/bed room a lot.

Now I almost never use a computer at home (for leisure). I use my iPad and the appleTV. Sometimes when I write longer e-mails I do boot up a computer.

If I would buy a laptop today I would by a larger then 13" screen since I don't carry it around in the house as much so it's more used as a desktop replacement.

For work I could use a 15 or 17 display but I'm holding of buying a new laptop until they make them thinner by removing the DVD player. I rarely use a DVD player and when I do I'm fine with having an external one. Lugging one around all the time seem unnecessary and removing it should clear up some space for even more batteries. I also want SSD storage for the next laptop.
 
Let's face it, now more than ever change is afoot at Apple. In an effort to embrace it and appreciate it for what it is, even if not what would be of greatest benefit to my needs, I'm taking a broader view.

Reading the various reports over the last year about the A6 chip project, the possible inclusion of this chip in the iPhone, iPad, and some some laptops it's no surprise that Apple continues to place consumers above professionals in their business plan.

That said, I decided that over the calendar year of 2011 I would replace every Apple computer I have with the newly released models so as to have the best of "the last" if you will. Sure that's a worse case scenario, yet it's possible and if it doesn't' happen, I haven't lost anything.

As far as this new 15" WhatEverTheyCallIt model.

I have two thoughts. First, I really don't care what they call it, I don't care much about performance. Actually I don't care about anything other than it's 15" display in a sleek, light and very useful form factor.

Second, my current 13" MBA has convinced me how useful the form factor is. Since I already have the machines I rely on for mission critical work, this will simply be another addition for the fun of using slim and light with a larger display when my requirements are modest.

I do hope they build this, I'm a ready buyer.

It's as simple as that.
 
oh can't wait
probably gonna sell my base 13" 2010 MBP for this baby.
i originally wanted a 15" but the 13" was for only a $1000 and microcenter.

hmm but i also wonder what's in store for the MBP line :) i wonder if they will get a design change.

i also find it funny that many PC makers are designing those "ultra-books" so we have more MBA like products for Windows in the market. Watch Apple mess with their minds in 2012 =D
 
I can see them keeping the 11" and 13" laptops as the airs with the lower end processors and no discrete graphics, discontinuing the 13" pro and then making the 15" and 17" models pros with better processors and discrete graphics cards. And more ports too probably.

As it is now, unless you really need the hard drive and the extra ports, there's no point in buying the 13" macbook pro.
All three MacBook Pro models can drop the optical disk drive so the:
  • 13" has room for a quad-core processor and discrete graphics.
  • 15" gets an ExpressCard/34 slot and more battery.
  • 17" gets an SDXC slot and more battery.

Even though most people will not need it, support for 16GB RAM since 8GB SODIMM modules are available for sale. While they are at it, for people that do not like glossy, a matte/anti-glare screen option would be nice.
 
Yeah, Intel HD graphics across the line. And hopefully some cool new adapters to compensate the missing ports.

yea! intel HD 4000, absolutely perfect for 95%+ of Apple's Audience.

And will have even more ports since it will be bigger, and it will have thunderbolt
 
This would look amazing. It always stuns me how beautiful the 15" MBP looks (since I'm used to my 13" MBP), so I'm guessing that a slimmer 15" MBP would just be even more beautiful.

As an owner of a 15" MBP I can only agree. However, it also weighs a !"#€load.
 
Contrary to popular belief amongst many on this forum, Apple will NOT be killing the optical disk anytime soon. They can remove them from ALL of their machines and even cease production of external SuperDrives, but the optical disk is far too ubiqitous and multi-purposed (unlike the floppy, which had only one purpose) to be "killed" by Apple.

I actually heard a report this weekend (I forgot where) that sony and other record labels will be killing off CD's by end of 2012 and distributing all music digitally. So maybe Apple alone won't do it but if other major businesses follow suit that might do it.
 

Is that a joke? that things huge.

Yes - Apple loves big dongles.


I'm only young enough to remember dialing BBSs with my dynamic coupler.

300 baud or 1200 baud?


I actually heard a report this weekend (I forgot where) that sony and other record labels will be killing off CD's by end of 2012 and distributing all music digitally.

A claim like that deserves a link....
 
I'd love a new 13" MacBook something with the best of an Air and Pro.

From the Air I would like:

More affordable SSD
(adding it via apple.com to a MBP makes the price go way up, and adding it separately apparently eliminates TRIM support, I've been told)

Slightly thinner design
(but cooling is still important)

No optical drive!
(I have a SL disc stuck in mine now, it got stuck the first time I used the drive, but I don't use the optical drive anyways now so I never got it fixed, lol)

Higher screen resolution

From the Pro I would like:

The Pro's faster processors

4 GB RAM minimum standard

The glossy screen with black border (I know most probably disagree with me on that, but I like the black look, and the glass is easy to clean)

The Pro's higher screen quality

The air already has no optical drive and the pros do all have 4GB ram standard, already has a black border ;)
 
lies... the CD isn't going anywhere anytime soon. otherwise, there is no point in the label's existence any more if all that is offered is digital distribution as the bands can do that themselves.

...and without lossless downloads, not reasonable.

Although, if the studios add 96kHz 24-bit lossless downloads- CDs would be dead for me.
 
lies... the CD isn't going anywhere anytime soon. otherwise, there is no point in the label's existence any more if all that is offered is digital distribution as the bands can do that themselves.

While I agree that CDROMS will be around for quite a while, There is more to a record label then just selling music.

Record labels also promote that band and its music to a wider audience. Gives financial backing to a band for tours and other expenses.

I think record companies will exist without selling music in CD format. Its doing it already such as iTunes store, streaming music sites ect.
 
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