Apple's 2017 Curved OLED iPhone to Be a New Premium Model

[kdarling]

Arguably, the original iPhone was the original phablet.

Arguably not. Larger touch screen phones with higher resolution had been around for years before the 2007 iPhone's 3.5" 320x480 half VGA display. For example:

It's like when people claim that the iPhone was the first with a "retina" display in 2010, but other phone makers had already passed 300 PPI back in mid 2007.

(Note: the Nexio was considered more a handheld tablet than smartphone, but it could make phone calls.)

About all you can say is that years after the original iPhone was launched, Samsung developed phones with larger screens.

True, Samsung did not invent the phablet. They only helped popularize them.

However, Apple doesn't get to use the "it's a natural progression" card for changing tablet and phone display sizes like everyone else, because they had publicly dissed any other sizes than their own.

Heck, two of its CEOs had stated that Apple had chosen the correct screen size for a particular device type, and that any other size would require human mods like sandpapered fingers. This surely came as a surprise to all us later iPad mini owners

 

[JayIsAwesome]

"The iPhone Edge is totally an apple idea. I remember meeting with Jobs...eh about 9 years ago and we discussed the concept. Then the following year on a trip in Paris, we discussed it more. And then 3 years ago, I met with Tim Cook. We were on a trip to the Moon or Jupiter or somewhere and that's where we fully decided to bring the iPhone Edge to life. Right after, we were unfortunately attacked by Frieza but with me being a part time Super Saiyan...I was able to fight them off and save the iPhone and Apple. Basically, the iPhone Edge was my idea. And all of Apple's success is b/c of me." - Ryan Lochte

 

[_Refurbished_]

REALLY ... doesn't sound like you're too enthused about the 7 in an earlier post you made

"The beautiful iPhone 7B Plus has been given an extended Bump on the camera lense to make your Bump feel even more Bumpier. People will know when you Bump them, before you even Bump them."
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"There’s palpable concern Apple is losing its magic. Tim Cook says that’s not so."

“We have great innovation in the pipeline, like new iPhones that will incent you and other people that have iPhones today to upgrade to new iPhones,” Cook said on the show. “We are going to give you things that you can’t live without, that you just don’t even know you need today. You will look back and wonder ‘how did I live without this?”

Funny. I could care less about a bump on the back of my phone. Just some Apple humor. Way to care about my previous posts, though, Boy Scout points will be awarded to you tomorrow at 4pm.

Secondly, I'm not enthused at all by the new iPhone, but I'm on T-Mobile's Jump On Demand program and get a new phone each year regardless.

 

[LordVic]

...

yuo mean... Apple didn't invent out of absolutely nowhere the large front screened device? the whole market hadn't been working towards it already?! NO way! /s

I just laugh at that mentality. I had a couple PDA's before Apple ever had a smartphone , that were basically just large touch screen devices. sure, they didnt have a cellular radio yet, and the devices utlimately weren't great. But they were the pre-curser for the iPhone and smartphones that came after.

I rocked a Cassiopeia for years, then moved to a Dell Axim, which had both wifi, and bluetooth, and a Bluetooth GPS Dongle.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Yet at the first hint of Samsung rolling out a feature, say Samsung pay, people are coming out of the woodwork saying how bad they for copying Apple.

You need to do some serious logical gymnastics to say Apple didn't copy some android's features, including the notification center, 3rd party keyboards.

I don't care if either company steals their ideas from hungry orphans if it gets me better tech.

 

[Khalanad75]

I cannot believe there is 15 pages on this for a rumor of something that may come out in a couple of years :|

a rumor. Not leaked schematics. Not leaked parts.... a rumor from a third party. A year and a half out, and there is 15 pages of people bemoaning Apple has lost their way.

good lord.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

A growing number of people wear glasses, and an iris scanner is less convienent for them than a simple fingerprint scanner.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-7-1325876/review

"New in the Note 7 is an iris scanner, Samsung's latest novelty act and your next party trick. You never knew you needed to unlock your phone with your eyes – and, truthfully, you really don't. The fingerprint sensor is still here and works just fine."

This makes your argument completely irrelevant. I always cringe out how many people bring this up when the fact is that it is a moot issue.

 

[gregoryalee]

So people are never racist to Africans then using your logic. Race is about more then colour. Anyway enough said about it on this thread I think.

How? Please expand on your thought. Yeah or do you require the last word since YOU feel enough has been said?

 

[Chupa Chupa]

While I agree to most of what you said I need to clear 2 things:

1-I too thought pro-phone was stupid until I saw people who make a living off them. I now an accountant who said I no longer user a computer, I do everything on my phone (outside office). Another example are social media celebreties.

2-I agree Apple's business model is not the cheaper hardware, but in a market of 2 billion customers with only 2 platforms (Andoird and iOS) I guess there is a place for Apple in the cheaper segment. They don't want to repeat the 80's mistake where they let Windows become the standard of PCs.

Regarding #1. Right, but you and the rest of the world. But ultimately that is just using the phone. You don't need a "pro" phone to use Facebook or Microsoft Office or Evernote or Calendars 5, etc. etc. Everyone would love a better screen. Let's not call a phone "pro" because it's OLED. It's a silly distinction.

Regarding #2 Of course there is a place for a less expensive iPhone. My point is that while it might get Apple much higher marketshare it would also cut into margins meaning less $ for Apple to spend on R&D innovating. What you are suggesting is the Dell business model. But that was never Apple's. It was make the best possible product, but never junk.

The "80's mistake" as you put it wasn't really a mistake. Apple as Microsoft would still be Microsoft. Apple is Apple because it didn't allow cloning until it didn't matter anymore. Apple failed in the 90s because it has poor leadership not because it didn't control the PC world. From what I'm seeing it looks like history might be repeating itself.

 

[Rocket Man]

I cannot believe there is 15 pages on this for a rumor of something that may come out in a couple of years :|

a rumor. Not leaked schematics. Not leaked parts.... a rumor from a third party. A year and a half out, and there is 15 pages of people bemoaning Apple has lost their way.

good lord.

Also, the rumor is way more exciting than what we are about receive in September.

 

[atikalz]

It has everything to do with an edge display. With the phone laying flat on a table it would be very difficult to see what's in that photo while lying down, with the edge display you only need to glance over to your phone without picking it up to see that information.

What photo? I thought we are talking about the ability of a screen to show the time and date 24/7 without draining the battery? That works a flat screen too.

 

[maxsix]

And it's gonna be called iPhone Pro.

At over $1,000 they better have a "Pro" marketing campaign...

 

[Michael Goff]

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-7-1325876/review

"New in the Note 7 is an iris scanner, Samsung's latest novelty act and your next party trick. You never knew you needed to unlock your phone with your eyes – and, truthfully, you really don't. The fingerprint sensor is still here and works just fine."

This makes your argument completely irrelevant. I always cringe out how many people bring this up when the fact is that it is a moot issue.

My argument that it is a useless gimmick right now is moot?

 

[kdarling]

My argument that it is a useless gimmick right now is moot?

Wait, what? You made sense when you said iris scanning is less useful for glass wearers, but I think that calling it a "useless gimmick" is going way too far.

Regarding #2 Of course there is a place for a less expensive iPhone. My point is that while it might get Apple much higher marketshare it would also cut into margins meaning less $ for Apple to spend on R&D innovating.

Even with huge increases lately (maybe for cars and chips?), Apple still doesn't spend very much on R&D when compared to their revenue and to other companies' expenditures. I don't think they're even in the top twenty. Heck, even Huawei spends more than Apple. So a lower margin shouldn't impact R&D.

 

[Michael Goff]

Wait, what? You made sense when you said iris scanning is less useful for glass wearers, but I think that calling it a "useless gimmick" is going way too far.



Even with huge increases lately (maybe for cars and chips?), Apple still doesn't spend very much on R&D when compared to their revenue and to other companies' expenditures. I don't think they're even in the top twenty. Heck, even Huawei spends more than Apple. So a lower margin shouldn't impact R&D.

You're right, useless gimmick is too far. Guess I just got frustrated and said something stupid again.

 

[A MacBook lover]

Even with huge increases lately (maybe for cars and chips?), Apple still doesn't spend very much on R&D when compared to their revenue and to other companies' expenditures. I don't think they're even in the top twenty. Heck, even Huawei spends more than Apple. So a lower margin shouldn't impact R&D.

Just because another company spends more, doesn't mean they spend it wisely. Apple is indeed stingy but much wiser with it's money. Lower R&D spending doesn't necessarily equate to less strides

 

[ryanwarsaw]

My argument that it is a useless gimmick right now is moot?

Yes because you can simply use the fingerprint sensor. So it really isn't any sort of an issue.

 

[maxsix]

"The iPhone Edge is totally an apple idea. I remember meeting with Jobs...eh about 9 years ago and we discussed the concept. Then the following year on a trip in Paris, we discussed it more. And then 3 years ago, I met with Tim Cook. We were on a trip to the Moon or Jupiter or somewhere and that's where we fully decided to bring the iPhone Edge to life. Right after, we were unfortunately attacked by Frieza but with me being a part time Super Saiyan...I was able to fight them off and save the iPhone and Apple. Basically, the iPhone Edge was my idea. And all of Apple's success is b/c of me." - Ryan Lochte

Your "exclusive" on this breaking news story is impressive... Nice Work

 

[kdarling]

You're right, useless gimmick is too far. Guess I just got frustrated and said something stupid again.

No problem, we all get frustrated at times

Just because another company spends more, doesn't mean they spend it wisely. Apple is indeed stingy but much wiser with it's money. Lower R&D spending doesn't necessarily equate to less strides

I agree, but that wasn't my topic.

My point was that people often tie Apple's huge profits to its ability to do R&D, but Apple could make a lot less and still easily afford the relatively small R&D budget they have. Their giant profit hoard held by their two Irish "subsidiaries" is barely used for anything.

 

[maxsix]

Their giant profit hoard held by their two Irish subsidiaries is barely used for anything.

Indeed!

It's rather maddening to witness Apple coasting along relative to their capabilities. With a huge contingent of world class engineers, highly skilled design team, a robust supporting staff and decades of experience, Apple's capable of so much more.

If they were to fully commit themselves to doing their best work the results would be truly amazing. Oh sure profits are important but Apple could have it all if only they weren't quite so full of themselves.

 

[sudo1996]

I guess that takes you out of the Apple line-up - so what's your next android phone?

Not to worry. Seems that Apple's "SE" models keep the basic design.

 

[Urban Joe]

I'm curious about your experience with the SE. I'm told it's basically the size of the classic iphone 5s, correct? I'm seriously looking into this to scale back ( used to have iphone 4 and 5c in the past but own a 6 Plus for professional reasons in the creative industry ) and save money until the iPhone 8 comes out which is probably THE phone to get rather than the 7. I'm a bit pissed because Apple should have gone with the classic flat edges for the 4.7 and 5.5 sizes rather than curved. I have to go 64GB so I can move my music collection to play 'offline' instead of using iTunes Match ( I don't trust it these days after hearing some horror stories ).

I know that the front camera on the SE isn't nearly as powerful as the rear but at least FaceTime, Skype or such should be of good quality regardless.

I really like the SE. I honestly hope it's not just a one of model. It's very zippy because it has the processor of a 6s but running fewer pixels on a smaller screen. I've had no problems at all with it and it should have no problem going strong until the 8 comes out and probably longer. I guess it depends on your needs. If you need the screen real estate it might be better to stick with what you have unless you're having problems with it. It might end up costing you money to switch at this point. I sold my 6 right before the 6s was released so it was able to cover the cost. I had to sacrifice memory and screen size but jumping on the newer processor was worth it to me. I like having the smaller one because it's more pocket friendly. And yes, it's nearly identical to the 5/5s in terms of size.

 

[lordofthereef]

Having used (sparingly) the SHS7 edge, I can't say I would hate this. But really. The bezels. They would need reduction at this point.

I've long said that pointing singers who is is copying whom was stupid and would just cause phone manufacturers to never get anywhere. So what if Samsung did it first? I really couldn't care less if I get a phenomenal product.
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Why is giving consumers a choice equal to a bloated lineup? Ever looked through a BMW brochure anytime in the last 20+ years?

Apple once ridiculed android for its fragmentation and complexity. With a lineup like this and, yes, fragmentation, I can see why some are left scratching their heads.

I honestly don't see a problem. The more options the merrier. App development is less straight forward than it used to be but that's not (directly) my problem.

 

[Col4bin]

people, please, stop taking rumors literally!!
a curved oled screen does NOT mean apple is copying the samsung edge. be open minded and creative about what it could be!
the staff at MR also does not help with this, fueling the concept of a 5,8" screen that wraps around the sides, which is only a conjecture and a bad interpretation of the leak, imo.

Dunno man. It's not like Tim and Jony have done much recently to inspire confidence with innovative and new product design? It's been mostly rehash city since Steve's passing, so I think Apple consumers have a right to at least feel somewhat skeptical for the time being--or until Apple delivers and wows again.
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I cannot believe there is 15 pages on this for a rumor of something that may come out in a couple of years :|

a rumor. Not leaked schematics. Not leaked parts.... a rumor from a third party. A year and a half out, and there is 15 pages of people bemoaning Apple has lost their way.

good lord.

The natives are getting restless (understandably).

 

[wozmatic]

LOL this is a joke, no way Apple would make something that stupid.

Curved displays are horrible