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Please don't. As someone that goes climbing with dry skin and has to deal with touchid on the macbookpro not reading it all the time I'm thankful it's not an issue on the phone. not to mention over nice perks like having notifcations not show up until its unlocked/etc where you can just glance over it and they show up. The only time i'd wish for the touchid back is when paying in shop so i don't have to activate apple pay beforehand but like that's usually the watches job anyway and with the touchid track record wouldn't be much use. (I'd be happy if it came back in addition to face id thou)
I'm of two minds on this. I really like the convenience of FaceID as it removes the barrier of entry for logging in to your phone. Looking at it is instinctive. On the other hand FaceID unlocks your phone whether you want it to or not. It doesn't trigger on a screen swipe so if you turn your phone on to check the time or skip a track, it unlocks and shows you those notifications regardless. Whenever I use Android phones I don't miss it.
 
Another gurman lie. I dont even bother myself to read as soon as I see the word “gurman” on the articles. All fake news. All waste of time. He is a scammer.
 
That would literally be the worst Mac in existence though. Horrible performance relative to the next worst Mac, and horrible battery life. Just because iPhone and Mac can now share the "same" chip (in name only) does not mean any of what some of you extrapolate from that. All it really means is more timely and efficient development at Apple.

An iPhone chip, board, battery are meant to run iOS. They are not meant to run macOS. I see the advantage, in theory, to what you're suggesting, but the practical reality is quite different.
No. It would be powered by the cable while plugged in, and the iPhone chip is more than capable for office tasks. I was not suggesting it would replace a real Mac, merely that it would be very cool and useful.
 
In reality, each has its pros and cons. Touch ID is useless with wet fingers or gloves. Face ID? Try using it with a helmet — or better yet, a VR headset while you’re hunting for a password on your iPhone (lol). Honestly, having both, with seamless unlock if either works, would be way more useful. You know, just incidentally more helpful than spending years chasing a few extra pixels on the screen.

How many people use gloves in winter?

How many people use VR headsets?
 


Apple is preparing a "bold" new iPhone Pro model for the iPhone's 20th anniversary in 2027, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. As part of what's being described as a "major shake-up," Apple is said to be developing a design that makes more extensive use of glass – and this could point directly to the display itself.

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Here's the case for Apple releasing a truly all-screen iPhone with no display cutout for its premium 20th anniversary model.

The Road to All-Screens

Gurman recently reported that the Pro models are expected to gain a smaller Dynamic Island in 2026 or 2027, as Apple moves more of its front-facing components beneath the display. While it's not yet clear whether the selfie camera or the TrueDepth system behind Face ID will make the move first, display analyst Ross Young has said under-screen Face ID is currently slated to arrive in 2026.

That would mean under-display Face ID could debut as early as next year, in the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max. In that scenario, the Dynamic Island would shrink but remain, housing a front-facing camera via a small cutout. The next logical step – for 2027's flagship – would be to move that camera under the display as well, finally achieving the full-screen design that has long been rumored. That progression aligns with Young's display roadmap, which has predicted this shift since 2023.

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Backing this up, Weibo-based leaker Digital Chat Station recently claimed the next two iPhone generations – iPhone 17 and iPhone 18 – will both retain the Dynamic Island. But for the 2027 model, Apple may be on track to complete its transition to a seamless display.

Foldable Innovations

Apple is reportedly already testing the technologies that could make this possible. The company is developing an 18.8-inch foldable device, and one prototype is said to feature a "metal superstructure lens" that integrates the transmitter and receiver components used for Face ID, enabling facial recognition under the display.

Meanwhile, the long-rumored foldable iPhone, which could launch as soon as next year, reportedly uses an under-display front-facing camera and forgoes Face ID entirely, instead relying on Touch ID built into the side button. If accurate, that would signal Apple is actively experimenting with multiple under-display camera systems across its product lines – some with Face ID, some without.

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Together, these developments suggest Apple may already have the foundational technologies in place to hide both the TrueDepth system and selfie camera beneath the screen – key requirements for a truly all-screen iPhone. That would set the stage for a major design milestone in 2027, in line with what former design chief Jony Ive long envisioned.

Engineering Advances

Of course, this all depends on Apple overcoming some significant engineering hurdles. For Face ID to work under the display, its sensors – especially those that use infrared light – need to operate without interference from the display layers above them. That's difficult with current OLED and LCD technology, which tend to scatter or absorb infrared signals.

There are, however, several emerging display solutions that might enable this. Transparent OLED panels can allow infrared light to pass through specific areas of the screen, though current implementations suffer from reduced brightness and clarity. LTPO displays with subpixels that can temporarily deactivate may also allow sensors to "see" through the panel during authentication.

Another possibility involves integrating optical waveguide layers into the display to channel infrared signals to and from the sensors with minimal distortion. Apple could also incorporate advanced IR-pass materials to create invisible sensor zones that preserve display quality while enabling accurate facial recognition.

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It's likely that a future under-display Face ID system would require a combination of these technologies to meet Apple's high standards for privacy, performance, and visual consistency.

As for the front camera, industry progress is further along. Several Android phones already feature under-display selfie cameras, and Apple has reportedly been working on its own solution for some time. According to an April 2024 report, LG Innotek – one of Apple's Korean suppliers – is developing under-display cameras that leave no visible hole when inactive. These systems use a "freeform optic" multiple lens array designed to reduce image distortion and improve brightness, compensating for the light loss that typically occurs when a camera sits behind a display.

20th Anniversary iPhone

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If Apple intends to mark the iPhone's 20th anniversary with a hardware leap on the scale of 2017's iPhone X – which removed the Home button and introduced Face ID in a top-screen notch – then a true all-screen design would certainly make a splash.

As for naming, it's unclear whether Apple will stick with its annual numbering pattern, which would put us at iPhone 19 in 2027, or choose a commemorative name like "iPhone 20" to align with the milestone year – just as it introduced the iPhone 8 and the radically redesigned iPhone X side by side in 2017.

Either way, a full-screen, all-glass iPhone would be a fitting way to celebrate two decades of Apple's most iconic product.

Article Link: Apple's 20th Anniversary iPhone May Finally Go All Screen
It's all guess work and wishful thinking at this stage
 
Doesn’t China already have this on some of their phones
There are some lovely curved display designs. The old Huawei P40 Pro had a gorgeous curved glass on all 4 sides. I’d quite like a return of the iPhone X-style rounder sides but with a glass that curves right around.
 
iPhone 20 (20th anniversary) is 2028, not 2027.

iPhone 17 - 2025
iPhone 18 - 2026
iPhone 19 - 2027
...

iPhone X was 10 on paper.
 
In reality, each has its pros and cons. Touch ID is useless with wet fingers or gloves. Face ID? Try using it with a helmet — or better yet, a VR headset while you’re hunting for a password on your iPhone (lol). Honestly, having both, with seamless unlock if either works, would be way more useful. You know, just incidentally more helpful than spending years chasing a few extra pixels on the screen.
This! Apple already turned the missing pixels into a cute signature feature (Dynamic Island) anyway. Cutting Face ID just makes the face a big, unnecessarily expensive roundrect.
 
The Dynamic Island is one of the things I miss from my 14 Pro. I can't imagine they'd just completely take it away like my other favorite things (Mac Touchbar and 3D Touch).
 
There are some lovely curved display designs. The old Huawei P40 Pro had a gorgeous curved glass on all 4 sides. I’d quite like a return of the iPhone X-style rounder sides but with a glass that curves right around.

The XS is the only phone I eventually swapped because i cracked the glass too much. All my other iphones with a metal band that protects the screen on the sides were just swapped because I wanted the newer model....

... okay, I'm not a good Apple slave because I kept the XS for 5.5 years instead of contributing to Cook's coffers yearly ...

... and they made the mistake of adding the metal band back for the 16 so it will probably last more than that. Burn me at the stake!
 
Ah well, I'm waiting for a weightless mini, come on Apple, you can do it 😍
 
Don’t know about the rest of you, but I want a foldable iPhone as much as I want a hole in my head! Absolutely zero desire for this. Same for the rumored HomePad…
 
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Expecting something special for the 20th anniversary. An all screen iPhone with FaceID and front facing camera under the screen will be nice. It is also possible that the foldable device from Apple gets delayed and is released in 2027. That could become the special edition for the 20th anniversary.
 
I personally love it, as I’m reading the comments the Dynamic Island is showing my current blood sugar level
I agree, but going full screen gives you the entire screen, plus they could keep the dynamic island as a software only thing, so it goes away when it isn't needed. Where right now the spot is in the middle of your screen all the time.
 
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Oh man, already skipped 2 years due to upgrade not being interesting enough.... but I guess upgrade this year and again in 27 aint too bad.
I already skipped the iPhone 14 Pro, 15 Pro, 16 Pro. I might buy the iPhone 17 Pro depending on the price and the international economic situation. Personally I would skip the iPhone 20 (I am sure the naming will be iPhone 20 like it was with the iPhone X (10) in 2017 instead of iPhone 9 for obvious reasons). iPhone X has 3 GB of RAM memory. One year later the iPhone XS saw a small increase in RAM memory to 4 GB. If I end up buying the iPhone 17 Pro, most likely the iPhone 21 in 2028 will be its successor. In my opinion it is best to skip a generation when there's a major redesign. This way they can fix eventual flaws of the device.
 
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