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1) what happened to the 360 slow turn in (i)Maps, which was evident in beta versions of iOS 6? In the 3D mode, one would enter an address or location, and upon locating the place, the map would turn 360. Liked it, miss it.

2) what's the likelihood that Apple will eventually release a desktop version of its map app program?
1. I only remember seeing this happen when looking up the Sydney Opera House

2. Quite likely imo
 
Are you on apples payroll?:)

My one year old 4S has lost functionality after the update. If I knew then what I know now...
Perhaps I've had bought another phone.

Why? Do you work for Samsung? Your case is much different then the person I made a reference too.
 
Hey, Lady Liberty's looking good. Too bad there doesn't seem to be any 3D data for buildings here in Tokyo yet. I mean, I know this is just a minor city with no significant major works of architecture, but…

Bah, I ain't even mad. Haven't had any problems with direction finding so far, and that's the big one.
 
Apple has teams of developers working in parallel on feature sets, and rolls out features that are ready for use, in staged releases.

Become a developer. You'll learn something.

Thanks for your career advice Mr. Smartypants, but I'm sure most people are happy with their current job and are buying Apple products because they "just work" and we don't have to worry about its inner workings.

The point remains that Apple delivered a faulty product and instead of fixing the more glaring problems (=the ones I mentioned) they're touching up cosmetic details that nobody cares about.

I'm sure that setting your priorities right is something even "developers" have to do.
 
Hey, Lady Liberty's looking good. Too bad there doesn't seem to be any 3D data for buildings here in Tokyo yet. I mean, I know this is just a minor city with no significant major works of architecture, but…
Japan represent also only about 10% of Apple's worldwide sales.
10% of $110 billion is probably not worth it in their eyes.
Bah, I ain't even mad. Haven't had any problems with direction finding so far, and that's the big one.
Have railroad stations made their way back into Apple Maps? Last time I checked even some of the biggest stations in the world (Shibuya and Shinjuku) simply didn't exist in Apple's world.
 
Apple has teams of developers working in parallel on feature sets, and rolls out features that are ready for use, in staged releases.

Become a developer. You'll learn something.

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Which functionality?

Radar would love to hear from you.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1456989/IMG_1002.JPG

I live under the cloud:D
And the POIs are wrong! I myself corrected about 30 in my local area.
Ways in forest are´nt displayed, etc..
 
I submitted an error last week. I'm on the iPhone 4 so don't 3D or FlyOver but I noticed that Chelmsford in Essex, UK (and other parts of Essex) were missing satellite imagery.

Since the start of this week, it's now there, so Apple aren't just looking at the pretty pictures.

Also, people are forgetting that C3 Technologies (who Apple bought) were also doing their own version of Street View, including interior views, as of January 2011:

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/1/17/from-sweden-next-gen2c-nsa-like-3d-maps-thatll-knock-your-socks-off.aspx

Don't be surprised if we get a new WalkThrough feature in iOS 7 which integrates seemlessly with FlyOver and both 2D and 3D views.
 
The point remains that Apple delivered a faulty product and instead of fixing the more glaring problems (=the ones I mentioned) they're touching up cosmetic details that nobody cares about.
Those of you claiming that we should be patient, and it'll take time, are missing this fundamental point. Why on earth did they release a poor maps app when Google Maps was working just fine? For those that live in the major cities, I'm sure 3D Flyover is very pretty, but the rest of us are left waiting. As I've said before, the second largest city in my country (Wales) has the level of satellite imagery that Google had 5 years ago. Then again, as most Americans probably think Wales is part of Scotland, I'm not holding my breath ;)
 
The point remains that Apple delivered a faulty product and instead of fixing the more glaring problems (=the ones I mentioned) they're touching up cosmetic details that nobody cares about.
You are wrong in two ways:
  1. Many people DO care about the cosmetic details, and have posted pictures of cosmetic issues they find in Apple's maps, along with expressions of outrage that are at least as fervent as yours.
  2. Apple has shown improvement in the "more glaring problems."
I know you want Apple to fix your list of problems before they put ANY effort into fixing anyone else's, but I have some issues with the maps, and I think Apple should fix mine first. Tell me why yours are more important than mine.
 
Japan represent also only about 10% of Apple's worldwide sales.
10% of $110 billion is probably not worth it in their eyes.

Japan was Apple's biggest growth market over the last year at 33% growth.

From what I've read their maps work worse there than any other country.

It'll be interesting to see whether Apple manages to maintain that growth, or whether Japanese buyers vote with their wallets.
 
Those of you claiming that we should be patient, and it'll take time, are missing this fundamental point. Why on earth did they release a poor maps app when Google Maps was working just fine? For those that live in the major cities, I'm sure 3D Flyover is very pretty, but the rest of us are left waiting. As I've said before, the second largest city in my country (Wales) has the level of satellite imagery that Google had 5 years ago. Then again, as most Americans probably think Wales is part of Scotland, I'm not holding my breath ;)
You should be used to it by now. The Brits won't even put a dragon on the Union Jack.

When I asked a friend about all the seagulls in Hereford, he said the only thing stopping Hereford from being a beautiful seaside resort was Wales.
 
You should be used to it by now. The Brits won't even put a dragon on the Union Jack.

When I asked a friend about all the seagulls in Hereford, he said the only thing stopping Hereford from being a beautiful seaside resort was Wales.
Yeah..I've heard them all ;):rolleyes:
 
Just to make our Welsh friends feel more loved, the maps app in London is rubbish, feels like an Alpha, not even a Beta. Gets lost around the roads in Maida Vale, and puts buildings on the wrong side of the canal those are just a few of it's issues. Of course London with a population of 9 million odd (more than the whole of Wales) is probably unimportant to a US company ...
 
Japan represent also only about 10% of Apple's worldwide sales.
10% of $110 billion is probably not worth it in their eyes.

Considering the number of countries Apple does business in, I would imagine that a single one that accounts for 10% of sales would actually be a rather significant chunk.

Have railroad stations made their way back into Apple Maps? Last time I checked even some of the biggest stations in the world (Shibuya and Shinjuku) simply didn't exist in Apple's world.

I never noticed them missing. Were you searching for them in English or in Japanese? I've noticed that Apple Maps seems to be far less tolerant of finding things in Japan if you search using English, even for things with names we'd never consider anything but - you'll never find McDonald's or the Tokyo Sky Tree in Japan, but search for マクドナルド or スカイツリー and they'll pop right up. Fortunately, I know enough Japanese that this is rarely a problem for me, so long as I remember to search in Japanese the first time. At any rate, I just checked, and Maps had no problem finding either 渋谷駅 (Shibuya station) or 新宿駅 (Shinjuku station).

That being said, I wouldn't say Shibuya is an exceptionally large station, in Japanese train station terms.

Japan was Apple's biggest growth market over the last year at 33% growth.

From what I've read their maps work worse there than any other country.

I'd be surprised if that (your latter statement) were true. As I said, I haven't noticed any problems with the maps, so long as I search for my destination in Japanese. I'm just bummed there's no 3D data (for buildings; Mount Fuji (富士山) is rather impressively represented) yet.

Why on earth did they release a poor maps app when Google Maps was working just fine?

If you are really still asking this question, the latest Macalope Weekly column might be useful.
 
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I'd be surprised if that (your latter statement) were true. As I said, I haven't noticed any problems with the maps, so long as I search for my destination in Japanese. I'm just bummed there's no 3D data (for buildings; Mount Fuji (富士山) is rather impressively represented) yet.

In another thread a comment had been made that Apple had failed to implement Japan's rather unique block and building numbering system... So while you could get to a general location, locating an individual premises on a block was impossible (and that's what my statement was based on). I'd be interested to hear if they'd started to fix that.

Western building numbering is easy!
 
I've seen a few more POI's included and one funny one....

Someone on my road has, what it looks like, their own business working from their house. I know this as it looked weird but checked their website and it was legit so I ignored it.

Someone else near me didn't go that far and must have reported it as incorrect as its vanished.

lolz
 
Every time they show the maps app, they show places that I would never be DRIVING to ?!? It's great to see the Statue of Liberty is back to where it should be, but when push comes to shove and I'm driving somewhere I've never been late at night, I want to know that I'm going to actually get there.

There was one time I saw an actual map of a home depot location on MR. It was nice to see the differences between Apple maps and Google maps and see who's data is right.

When people see the Statue of Liberty in its correct location, are they thinking "Awesome, now I know the maps app is fixed?" To me this just seems like more iCandy.
 
I never noticed them missing. Were you searching for them in English or in Japanese? I've noticed that Apple Maps seems to be far less tolerant of finding things in Japan if you search using English, even for things with names we'd never consider anything but - you'll never find McDonald's or the Tokyo Sky Tree in Japan, but search for マクドナルド or スカイツリー and they'll pop right up. Fortunately, I know enough Japanese that this is rarely a problem for me, so long as I remember to search in Japanese the first time. At any rate, I just checked, and Maps had no problem finding either 渋谷駅 (Shibuya station) or 新宿駅 (Shinjuku station).
They were missing a couple of days after the release of iOS 6. A search in Japanese would find the location of the stations, but the stations itself (as well as the railroad, exits, etc.) wouldn't show up.
That being said, I wouldn't say Shibuya is an exceptionally large station, in Japanese train station terms.
Shinjuku station is used by an average of 3.7 million people per day, making it the world's busiest station. Shibuya is the fourth-busiest rail station in Japan (2.4 million passengers on an average weekday)
 
Wrong direction

I'm not a New Yorker but I have am very familiar with the city. I also have not upgraded to IOS 6. But I believe the Statue of liberty is turned 90 degrees in the photo you provide at the start of this thread. When I have seen Miss Liberty in the past she had been looking out to sea not at Manhattan.

My apologies if this has already been pointed out
 
I know you want Apple to fix your list of problems before they put ANY effort into fixing anyone else's, but I have some issues with the maps, and I think Apple should fix mine first. Tell me why yours are more important than mine.
From what I've read so far, the people who are satisfied with Apple Maps live in the US, or about 1/3 of Apple total revenue.
From a business perspective it seems to make sense to prioritize the market that brings in 2/3 of your revenue.
 
How quickly are Apple updating the app based on user reports?

I was in Amsterdam last week and, unbelievably, a search for Anne Frank's House dropped the pin on a canal boat 100metres away - disgraceful mistake really.

I reported it and a few days later went to screen grab the error and it was corrected
 
Thanks for your career advice Mr. Smartypants, but I'm sure most people are happy with their current job and are buying Apple products because they "just work" and we don't have to worry about its inner workings.

The point remains that Apple delivered a faulty product and instead of fixing the more glaring problems (=the ones I mentioned) they're touching up cosmetic details that nobody cares about.

I'm sure that setting your priorities right is something even "developers" have to do.

I don't mean this as a personal comment but I find this sort of post a bit strange. Apple is a big company and has people working on a range of things. These people will have different roles, job specs and skills. They aren't interchangable - you couldn't redeploy their packaging design team to go work on music software any more than you could ask a long distance lorry driver to go work in a daycare centre.

Therefore the people who are improving the "cosmetica details that nobody cares about" (by the way, I do care about them and I'm fairly sure many others care too) couldn't just be shoved into a different team to work on what you think is important. Stopping them doing their job isn't going to make anyone elses workload lighter.

So this isn't a matter of priorities. Life goes on for all the different teams in any given company and a high priority task for one team doesn't alter the priorities of any other.

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Just to make our Welsh friends feel more loved, the maps app in London is rubbish, feels like an Alpha, not even a Beta. Gets lost around the roads in Maida Vale, and puts buildings on the wrong side of the canal those are just a few of it's issues. Of course London with a population of 9 million odd (more than the whole of Wales) is probably unimportant to a US company ...

That's odd - I'm in London and have found the maps fine. I mean, sure they aren't 100% perfect but good enough.
 
I'm all for hating on iOS 6 Maps and everything, but I listened to Mr. Cook's advice and downloaded a "competitor's app" (ie Mapquest) and I want to kill myself everytime I try to find ANY POI. As an example, I type in a moderately well known restaurant in my town, and Mapquest doesn't find it. After about 5 attempts with various wording I finally give in and just tell Siri to take me there... which works. Easy to hate until you are using something worse.
 
I'm all for hating on iOS 6 Maps and everything, but I listened to Mr. Cook's advice and downloaded a "competitor's app" (ie Mapquest) and I want to kill myself everytime I try to find ANY POI. As an example, I type in a moderately well known restaurant in my town, and Mapquest doesn't find it. After about 5 attempts with various wording I finally give in and just tell Siri to take me there... which works. Easy to hate until you are using something worse.


The problem is simply that Google used SO MUCH data which helped their maps be the best in town (excuse the pun). MapQuest, Waze etc may be ok - better than Apple's - yet still not as complete as Googles
 
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