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macrumors 68000
Feb 12, 2017
Hopefully Apple will offer some sort of upgrade from DTK to M1 for those people that have the development machines.
it's a mess who bought it and have to return it . For me as developer , ios a very slow adoption. My iMac 2017 baseline short circuit my house previous 2 days and I'm not sure either it was big surr issue . As replacement bought huawei d15 ryzen instead of m1 series(not available yet here, and will be long time to come here).

** normal stock laptop pretty pricy
** apple for sure over price as usual.


macrumors 6502
Aug 12, 2011
No refund, the $499 was a rental. In the past they’ve collected them and given a substantial discount on some new machine. No guarantees they’ll do that this time, but I think it’s likely.
It was simply wishful thinking. I'm hoping that we can get a $499 credit towards a new pro model when the rest of the line transitions.


macrumors 6502a
Nov 15, 2012
Same hopes, otherwise a pretty useless thing :(
Exactly. But it ended up way, way worse.

When BS beta 6 hit the DTK lost the ability to be restored via a Catalina Mac. You needed a 2nd mac running the same version of BS (albeit Intel at the time). Many developers were offered the DTK in September when beta 6 hit, but the DTKs arrived with Beta 5. Upgrading the DTK from beta 5 to 6 using the Beta Access Utility bricked the DTK hardware, which required using another Mac running Apple Configurator to restore.

So to use the DTK you needed another dedicated Mac running the same beta, which isn't very cost effective - especially for small developers.
Many small developers bought the DTK to use as a BS development machine for a year while new Apple Silicon macs shipped - this seemed like a cost effective option, but in the end these developers got screwed.

Tim Cook recently compared competition for developers to a "street fight" - and he's actually correct. But maybe Apple should stop shanking their developer community.


Apr 3, 2014
Never tried to restore, but was always getting download error when trying to update.
Was very disappointed to stick on initial os version but today managed to update to 11.1 Beta (20C5048l) via Preferences


macrumors 6502a
Oct 27, 2012
It is a nightmare to rent this DTK, struggling with the most basic task of updating the OS. If I knew a M1 Mac mini is coming that soon, I would not have applied for this. Apple seems to have even forgotten they rented out the DTK to us as they are dead silence on the developer forum. :(


macrumors 68000
Feb 19, 2006
Dearborn (Detroit), MI, USA
Looks like they're giving a $200 credit for a new Mac if you do it by May.

Not much, but it's $200 more than promised.
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