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I'm not up to date on the ML lingo and don't quite understand what this article is saying. Are they trying to generate artificial training sets so they don't have to use real images for training?

EDIT: It's 3:37AM here, so I'm not going to read past the intro of the paper, but yeah, they're generating artificial training sets. I've thought about this before (using a different method) and wondered if it would work.
 
Relax, i just wanted some examples.
I was simply addressing the superiority of Google's AI image recognition, in response to the article. Your post goes into tinfoil-y fears about Google in general. That's fine, some are terrified.

Google knows everything about me. I'm fine with that, some aren't. My life ticks along just fine and it doesn't bother me at all. There isn't an overweight Google employee staring at my photos, it's just mathematics at work. I'll take it since the results I gain are worth it to me.

YMMV.
 
I was simply addressing the superiority of Google's AI image recognition, in response to the article. Your post goes into tinfoil-y fears about Google in general. That's fine, some are terrified.

Google knows everything about me. I'm fine with that, some aren't. My life ticks along just fine and it doesn't bother me at all. There isn't an overweight Google employee staring at my photos, it's just mathematics at work. I'll take it since the results I gain are worth it to me.

YMMV.


I think you are whistling by the graveyard when you use terms like "tinfoil" fears or when you try to trivialize the issue as some Google employee staring at your photos. What you are trying to make yourself feel better about is that there is a large and ever growing dossier on you and your family. Google is storing everything about you and your family not as part of some plot to take over the world, but rather to know everything possible about you and your family as the golden fleece for advertisers. More than 90% of Google's profits come from selling ads and if the day ever comes where their advertising model breaks, they are out of business.

Undoubtedly no Google employee has ever directly viewed the items in your dossier. However, it is available to law enforcement, the government, hackers, foreign and domestic intelligence agencies. You may not care about privacy, many Americans don't think twice about it, but there are plenty of folks who do realize danger in having a central repository about every aspect of their lives. As a high ranking person in the Intel biz once said, "if Google didn't exist, we'd have to invent it." You don't think that the information that Google is amassing on you and other is not the envy of intel services, and now Google is even getting folks to put always listening devices in their homes, where at a minimum everything you say to/in front of Google is stored forever.
 
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Google is even getting folks to put always listening devices in their homes, where at a minimum everything you say to/in front of Google is stored forever.
I'm aware. I have 3 Google Home devices in my home. Love them. Having them in-sync with my Chromecast Audio and playing synchronized music throughout the house on all four devices simultaneously is incredible. Sonos is doomed.

So we agree to disagree. Google can have whatever they want, I'm good with that.
 
Can Apple make an AI that shows them how to eliminate dongles?

If they would just listen to all the bloody experts on this forum, they wouldn't need to create an AI to do anything at all. They would already have the absolute perfect products and services in ever category.
 
I'm aware. I have 3 Google Home devices in my home. Love them. Having them in-sync with my Chromecast Audio and playing synchronized music throughout the house on all four devices simultaneously is incredible. Sonos is doomed.

So we agree to disagree. Google can have whatever they want, I'm good with that.

I assume you saw the announcement today where law enforcement served a subpoena on Amazon for all the stuff said in front of Alexa in someone's house.

Sad that Google users and other folks have no idea the Orwellian world you are entering into. Talk about "lambs to the slaughter." Who would have thought folks would willingly turn over their entire lives to a large multi-national corporation? Future governments, some present ones, will love the fact that they can instantly locate anyone who has said anything negative against them. The dead Stasi and Nazis must be rolling in their graves at the thought of what they could have done with such a system. They wouldn't have needed to recruit spies and neighbors, folks are doing it for them. Putin must be smiling as he accesses the systems of Google and others to identify his enemies. It's not science fiction; it's here today folks.
 
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I assume you saw the announcement today where law enforcement served a subpoena on Amazon for all the stuff said in front of Alexa in someone's house.

Sad that Google users and other folks have no idea the Orwellian world you are entering into. Talk about "lambs to the slaughter." Who would have thought folks would willingly turn over their entire lives to a large multi-national corporation? Future governments, some present ones, will love the fact that they can instantly locate anyone who has said anything negative against them. The dead Stasi and Nazis must be rolling in their graves at the thought of what they could have done with such a system. They wouldn't have needed to recruit spies and neighbors, folks are doing it for them. Putin must be smiling as he accesses the systems of Google and others to identify his enemies. It's not science fiction; it's here today folks.

Amazon Echo does not record anything unless it has been activated with the wake word. You need to go read the article again. The warrant (not subpoena) is asking for anything the Echo device may have recorded, which would be after the wake word. I don't think it is surprising to anybody that owns an Echo that Amazon has this information. You can even see it in the iPhone app.
 
Amazon Echo does not record anything unless it has been activated with the wake word. You need to go read the article again. The warrant (not subpoena) is asking for anything the Echo device may have recorded, which would be after the wake word. I don't think it is surprising to anybody that owns an Echo that Amazon has this information. You can even see it in the iPhone app.

No, what's surprising to people is that massive dossiers of information are being amassed about them. It's alarming how easily people in the US and elsewhere are marching themselves to a Panopticon Orwellian future. Years ago, if a company had said we want to put a bunch of mikes that can record everything heard in your house so we can use it to build a file about you to sell your information to advertisers, people would have laughed in disbelief.

Why would you agree that Amazon or Google or anyone could record what is said in the privacy of your home? Why would you agree that Amazon or Google or anyone could amass that type of information on you that is easily retrievable and shareable, hackable, etc.? Amazing. Sad.

Imagine if you also told them that everyone of your letters that you send and receive will be opened and copied. We will follow you and record everywhere you drive and who you visit. We will record every book you check out or buy, every film you watch, every song you listen to, every spreadsheet or document you create, every letter to the editor you write, every thing you research, every photograph you take or are sent, everything you buy, and everything you say. And, we are going to do the same for all of your family and friends. And then we are going to put everything in a dossier that we will keep forever and use this information to keep track of you and what you do in the future and to sell access to you to others who want to know about you, advertisers, insurance companies, our subsidiaries, etc. And, in the future, we might just sell all of this to another company in another country. And the government can access it all. And criminals might break into our warehouse where we store it and steal it for who knows what. And foreign and domestic intel agencies might want to do the same. All of this would have been unimaginable except in a fiction novel like 1984. But it has now come to reality, and in the words of one intelligence official, "If Google didn't exist, we would have had to invent it."
 
Interesting subject. Apple seems to have issues having loading data to learn from but are aware of it. Good start there, they know to be flexible. Better than trying to square peg round hole it. Which is granted very possible. Big enough sledge hammer makes anything fit I have been know to say lol . Accuracy and precision suffer obviously when this is done though.

Just be nice if aperture was still around to see a real use for this one day, for me. Could have been a nice feature one day if still alive and with us.


Not a big siri user. Not even ranting on its inaccuracies that may or may not be there. I am just old school. Instead of hey siri...find me this I go hey hiddenmarkov....find this yourself lol. But that's me.

There were once these places call libraries. They had card catalogues and the dewey decimal system. Oddly enough using these archaic things...more than once books found looking for the one I wanted I found more interesting or of better use than the one looked for by intent. These gems in the rough found only because I stumbled upon the card(s) near the book I wanted or...just lying on the shelves near mine. Amazon and such with people also looked at this....not the same to me most times.
 
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I assume you saw the announcement today where law enforcement served a subpoena on Amazon for all the stuff said in front of Alexa in someone's house.

Usually the most ignorant are also the most paranoid.

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/28...sage-contacts-and-may-share-them-with-police/

Non-criminals and non-pedophiles have nothing to worry about. Plus, it's better to channel that energy to follow the experts on how AI and machine learning work.

https://mobile.twitter.com/demishassabis

https://mobile.twitter.com/deepmindai
 
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Not a big siri user. Not even ranting on its inaccuracies that may or may not be there. I am just old school. Instead of hey siri...find me this I go hey hiddenmarkov....find this yourself lol. But that's me.

Until now.

Until Airpods.

Now Siri is closer and clearer.

Dictation is now more possible with IOS and MAC, better than before.

Many of us are discovering that and soon others will also.

A good step forward in AI.

 
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