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swingerofbirch said:
I am an Apple shareholder and this is the first I am hearing of this meeting.

Me too.... Obviously my paltry sum of apple stock doesnt warrant an invitation of this magnititude!
 
Wow, Apple/Jobs MUST have lost it's mind if the C|Net article about them actually advertising their MACS are true. Apple? Actually advertise their COMPUTERS?!? Why what's next, pigs flying, cats and dogs living in harmoney, The rich getting poorer and the poor getting richer?
 
BRLawyer said:
Sorry, there will be no Conroe based tower...Apple would be unwise to launch a mini-tower to compete with its own MacMinis and iMacs...not a single chance for that to happen.

But it was fun anyway to see a Cube sitting on a desk at the University in Bern yesterday (they ALL use Macs, fortunately)...what a beautiful piece of kit, which no other PC maker in the world will ever match.
Interesting that you rhapsodize over a piece of kit that few people wanted (the cube), while saying that the problem with the upcoming Conroe mini-tower is that people would like it better than what's currently in Apple's lineup.

Apple would sell more systems if the big gap between the MiniMacIntel and the maxi-tower were filled. (marketshare goodness)

Probably a fair number of the Conroe mini-tower sales would include an Apple display - meaning more money for Apple than an iMacIntel purchase.

Since Apple doesn't even break out sales figures by product line - what's the real problem if some of the Conroe mini-tower sales are upsells from the MiniMacIntel and the iMacIntel?
 
Larry Fahn, a former president of the Sierra Club, said a recycling program recently announced by Apple didn’t go far enough. He also said that Apple has only recycled 2.4 percent of the computer equipment sold seven years ago, compared to 10 percent recycled by Dell and 7 percent by HP.

My personal observation about the lifecycle of a Mac is that any functioning Mac would still be in use after seven years. Almost everyone I know donates their old functioning Macs to the local schools, which eagerly take them. If the Macs are too slow to power current applications, they are set up as browser machines in the libraries or even set aside for typing practice.
 
zap2 said:
"Everyone wants a MacBook Pro because they are so bitchin"

Thats what MacWorld said Jobs said!


Also “We only have one CRT product left and that’s the eMac,” Jobs noted. “We could be sitting here next year with none.”

Seems like Jobs is not letting the eMac stay around as is... come on LCD eMac

Close. More like an iMac with MacMini guts for the education market.

nagromme said:
Ripping CDs doesn't kill off iTunes. iTunes profits aren't Apple's main goal--the service mainly sells hardware. I don't think Apple PVR is out of the question. (In fact, it would likely be integrated WITH iTunes.)

Like you said, Apple can sell itunes shows or computers. Most windows machines over $500 come with MCE and its PVR. Of course, they are going to take heat from following Microsoft and having to use a full featured remote.

AidenShaw said:
Interesting that you rhapsodize over a piece of kit that few people wanted (the cube), while saying that the problem with the upcoming Conroe mini-tower is that people would like it better than what's currently in Apple's lineup.

Apple would sell more systems if the big gap between the MiniMacIntel and the maxi-tower were filled. (marketshare goodness)

Probably a fair number of the Conroe mini-tower sales would include an Apple display - meaning more money for Apple than an iMacIntel purchase.

Since Apple doesn't even break out sales figures by product line - what's the real problem if some of the Conroe mini-tower sales are upsells from the MiniMacIntel and the iMacIntel?

Apple is going to do what it always does, claim it'll compete with the iMac or make it completely overpriced and useless like the cube. Then they'll seem bewildered that people bought the windows PC over their superior offerings or didn't want to pay two grand on a PowerMac..
 
The only thing that I'm going to say on this subject is that I hope that they start expanding downloadable television shows into other countries via iTunes. It would also be interesting to know how well the current catalogue of shows in the US is going down with customers - are people buying them and are they seeing any trends in acceptance of downloadable television?
 
Steve is happy that Apple is in the top 10 of companies that recycle? Sounds a bit like complacency to me.

I'd like to see Apple push much further ahead on environmental responsibility, become the market leader, demonstrate it is thinking beyond just end-of-life 'recycling' to the whole product life including manufacture, shipping and the rest, changing and raising the game so that other companies have to follow suit because consumers begin to expect it as normal.

Just like Apple does in other areas.
 
PVRs

I think Apple could rock the world with their take on PVR, but I'm going to order a 20" InteliMac soon and, if it gets good reviews, the Eye 250 that's about to ship. Sounds like it can do the job, it's under $200 and the software wins awards. Can't wait forever.
 
AidenShaw said:
And since when has any Jobs statement had any relationship to the truth? (Check for "video on iPod", or "1st 64-bit desktop", or "5 times faster", or anything about how bad Intel is relative to whatever it was that IBM/Moto used to sell.)

I'm sure that the ads will be for the new Conroe-based mini-tower.

And what about "we don't have a problem with people installing windows on our machines, but we wll not support it in any way"? that was whay, 2 months before boot camp was out? :)

Oded S.
 
deadturtle said:
Me too.... Obviously my paltry sum of apple stock doesnt warrant an invitation of this magnititude!

I got an invitation.

And I live in Israel, so it should have taken quite some time for it to get to me. plus, it got here almost 1.5 months ago. Surprising indeed.

Oded S.
 
odedia said:
And what about "we don't have a problem with people installing windows on our machines, but we wll not support it in any way"? that was whay, 2 months before boot camp was out? :)

Oded S.

Apple never said " we will not support it in any way"..What Apple said was "We won't keep people from installing Windows."

No mention about "in any way"
 
boncellis said:
I think the ad campaign will be for the MacBook Pro now that Apple offers it in 15" and 17" configurations.
You gotta remember when Apple is airing these ads ... during prime time TV when the masses are watching. 15"/17" MBP's are NOT for the masses. They are for professionals. iBooks/MacBooks ARE for the masses. Hmmm ... I've got a very good feeling about this. ;) Or, the ads could just be for the Mac Mini/iMac.

But introducing the MacBook 13" Tuesday would make news headlines, plus with Apple MacBook ads on TV during sweeps month for the MacBook translates into a lot of exposure which also translates into a large number of sales.

Bring on the MacBook, baby! :D
 
netdog said:
For those who think that Apple should be concerned about an OS X based media center cutting into iTMS sales, remember that surely over 90% of iTMS sales don't got to Macintosh users anyway.

More to the point, I would expect any OS X media center to incorporate the iTMS.
 
marchcapital said:
i dont care about PVR to be honest. i just want a 13 or 12 in macbook.

While everyone may not want one, there is a big market for college kids, ie. people who live out of one room. And these are the same kids buying iPods, so Apple really needs to grab this market while the brand is still "cool" - from my experience, it's becoming less "cool" everyday to have an iPod.
 
youngjake said:
While everyone may not want one, there is a big market for college kids, ie. people who live out of one room. And these are the same kids buying iPods, so Apple really needs to grab this market while the brand is still "cool" - from my experience, it's becoming less "cool" everyday to have an iPod.

Also, whether it happens through a TiVo or TiVo-like device, or a computer or PDA or being built in to a TV, the simple fact is that PVRs are going to be ubiquitous in the not-too-distant future. It will seem incredible that they didn't always exist......
 
jouster said:
Also, whether it happens through a TiVo or TiVo-like device, or a computer or PDA or built in to a TV, the simple fact is that PVRs are going to be ubiquitous in the not-too-distant future. It will seem incredible that they didn't always exist......

I wish it were true... with all of the new DRM tech they are putting into new standards for HDTV singnals, it may become increasingly difficult to record anything. In the future that is...
 
The real question is whether a DVR will make Apple money. Tivo is by far the best in the industry currently and as of yet have never made an annual profit. The interface on Tivo is spectacular, but we all know that if Apple took them over it would be better and more beautiful than ever...and work with Macs. That is where Tivo lacks bigtime now, us Mac users are always last to receive the updates...ie tivotogo.
 
zap2 said:
"Everyone wants a MacBook Pro because they are so bitchin"

Thats what MacWorld said Jobs said!
I can't believe all this bitchin! :D


AidenShaw said:
And since when has any Jobs statement had any relationship to the truth? (Check for "video on iPod", or "1st 64-bit desktop", or "5 times faster", or anything about how bad Intel is relative to whatever it was that IBM/Moto used to sell.)

I'm sure that the ads will be for the new Conroe-based mini-tower.
Are you saying the problems with Netburst and the Pentium 4 weren't real? Because Intel would disagree. And Apple has shown no sign of using any of the chips they have touted the G5 over. Apple is actually using new Intel chips (known as "Core") that did not even exist before this year.

I don't think ads for Conroe make sense in May, in any case.


AidenShaw said:
And native software by July '07 :eek:
That's right, because software that's already native doesn't matter, only software that isn't yet ;) And nobody could ever be productive in the meantime with Photoshop at G4 speeds via Rosetta on Conroe ;) That's why every print shop always has only brand-new top-speed computers ;)
 
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