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Can’t believe they’re doing glasses AND a VR headset. I’m excited to see both. Heck, I’m excited for everything that comes out (except the iPhone SE and iPad Pro 2020) haha.
 
Like health tracking for Apple Watch, AR apps will be Apple's selling point. But how often do you need AR? For most people, aside from maybe fitness, travel guide, and occasional DIY projects, I can't imagine too many use cases for AR.

Like Apple Watch, second screen will be what most people use it for.

For instance, when I am riding a bike or cooking, Apple Glass will notify incoming message, phone call, Home app notification, email from important contact, etc. With Siri or gesture, I can open the app (essentially Apple Watch ported to a different screen) and reply.

I can also get weather, time, timer status, sports score, etc. without picking up the phone.

"For instance, when I am riding a bike or cooking, Apple Glass will notify incoming message, phone call, Home app notification, email from important contact, etc. With Siri or gesture, I can open the app (essentially Apple Watch ported to a different screen) and reply."

That's not AR. That's simply replacing one display for another. Similar to Google Glass. And why it flopped. For an example of AR, see post#39 above.

Once a few AR apps are released, people will hopefully stretch their imagination just a bit and see the potential.

OTOH... I guess it's human nature for some, to expend energy finding reasons why a device won't be useful or a flop, rather than using that same potential energy to set their imagination free.
 
We know the smartwatch is going to have some level of success.

However, the AR Glasses from Apple will be very limited in what it can do if there is no onboard SoC and camera for capturing a photo.

The product shouldn't be made out of flimsy material if price at $499
 
Apple is losing its way....glasses? really, tim cook?
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We know the smartwatch is going to have some level of success.

However, the AR Glasses from Apple will be very limited in what it can do if there is no onboard SoC and camera for capturing a photo.

The product shouldn't be made out of flimsy material if price at $499

the smartwatch was nowhere near the success of iPhone/iPad. Many people don't have it, i guess it'll be the same with the glasses. Probably less, 'cause regular people wore watches before, but not glasses.
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Apple would have to conquer brands like Ray-ban and also make sunglasses in order to "force" people to wear this device all day.
 
Apple is losing its way....glasses? really, tim cook?
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the smartwatch was nowhere near the success of iPhone/iPad. Many people don't have it, i guess it'll be the same with the glasses. Probably less, 'cause regular people wore watches before, but not glasses.
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Apple would have to conquer brands like Ray-ban and also make sunglasses in order to "force" people to wear this device all day.

and it never was going to be, but it is the leader in the smartwatch space.
 
"For instance, when I am riding a bike or cooking, Apple Glass will notify incoming message, phone call, Home app notification, email from important contact, etc. With Siri or gesture, I can open the app (essentially Apple Watch ported to a different screen) and reply."

That's not AR. That's simply replacing one display for another. Similar to Google Glass. And why it flopped. For an example of AR, see post#39 above.

Once a few AR apps are released, people will hopefully stretch their imagination just a bit and see the potential.

OTOH... I guess it's human nature for some, to expend energy finding reasons why a device won't be useful or a flop, rather than using that same potential energy to set their imagination free.
Google Glass flopped because (1) it's expensive at $1500, (2) short battery life (3-5 hours), and (3) many people found it ugly.

I think non-AR features are more compelling than AR. AR is very useful for specialized use cases, which is why Google Glass pivoted to enterprise market.

But aside from select AR use cases (e.g., navigation, DIY projects, travel guide/translation), I don't really need nor want information augmented to whatever I am looking at. I am sure I will be delighted with AR when I need to use it, but to me, being able to get information without pulling out an iPhone is far more compelling.
 
It's hard to get too excited about the potential for a device without a camera. Google showed us the creep-potential for that, and I think they ruined it for everybody to come.

I think of AR glasses and I think of William Gibson's Virtual Light. Not gonna happen without a camera.

What's s "camera"? Apple Glasses will definitely have "sensors" - why do they have to be in the visible light range to be useful? I think Apple is very well aware of the "creep potential" of people thinking they're on candid camera whenever talking to someone with camera-equipped glasses. Better to always refer to "sensors" instead.
 
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the smartwatch was nowhere near the success of iPhone/iPad. Many people don't have it, i guess it'll be the same with the glasses. Probably less, 'cause regular people wore watches before, but not glasses.
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Apple would have to conquer brands like Ray-ban and also make sunglasses in order to "force" people to wear this device all day.


I have transition lenses in my glasses, no need for a separate pair of prescription sunglasses. One could probably put that same tech in non-prescription lenses. The problem would then be making whatever the HUD looks like support a real life darkmode, not "people need 2 pairs"
 
I know one thing Apple is always slandered for on sites like this, which is not being ‘innovative’. But I truly think that this product really will be on a level where a lot of consumers have no idea what to expect, that’s why they don’t understand the ‘use cases’ quite yet for a product that Will set the standard of being innovative, which will benefit us in the workforce and our personal life styles in Ways we never thought possible. Even speaking for myself, I’m not aware of all the capabilities of what to expect, I’m genuinely excited to see the future, hopefully by 2021 this becomes a reality.
 
Google Glass flopped because (1) it's expensive at $1500, (2) short battery life (3-5 hours), and (3) many people found it ugly.

I think non-AR features are more compelling than AR. AR is very useful for specialized use cases, which is why Google Glass pivoted to enterprise market.

But aside from select AR use cases (e.g., navigation, DIY projects, travel guide/translation), I don't really need nor want information augmented to whatever I am looking at. I am sure I will be delighted with AR when I need to use it, but to me, being able to get information without pulling out an iPhone is far more compelling.

While those 3 might have been reasons for Google Glass flopping, but what really did Google Glass in was people's discomfort in the presence of folks potentially always recording them - i.e. being in the presence of "glassholes". Apple will presumably try to get around that by use of "sensors" rather than "cameras" (the difference just being wavelength and no sound, I guess) and no blinking red recording lights :)

I don't think AR use cases have to be specialized at all. I can think of so many:while getting directions, hover arrows at intersections in the direction I need to go; when using "Find My..." show arrows where your lost purse is; show info bubbles above the people I interact with (I'm terrible with names, for instance). If I were deaf, the bubbles above people's heads could even show what they're saying in real-time!

The sky is the limit with AR - but getting your standard notifications in your field of view instead of having to look at your phone or watch are cool too.
 
I have a Google Daydream VR headset, and have found it a tantalizing glimpse into what future AR/VR glasses could be. The big problems with the Daydream included having to remove the case from your phone, insert it into this blinders-like headset, then have a restricted stereo view into pixelated world. It was still fun, and I sometimes used it to watch movies while traveling. It even worked on flights, until the airplane started turning, in which case the gyros detected this and slowly moved the screen out of my view.

Now, if someone, Apple, could pull off mapping information / displays to real-world surfaces like my wall or desk using the glasses I need anyway, there will be amazing uses for that. How about a virtual heads-up display for navigation while driving?

The new LIDAR sensor on the iPad and the years of refinement on ARKit are telling.
 
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What exactly will these glasses "augment"? I don't understand the selling point here at all.

I would say, that the ideas showing what something like this would be used for started showing up on TV 50 to 60 years ago. In thangs called "Books", it goes back even further...

Where have you been? 😉
 
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Digitimes contributed nothing here. All they did was reiterate some rumors so that in the future, people looking back might think Digitimes was right some of the time when in fact, they’re just BS reporters
 
What exactly will these glasses "augment"? I don't understand the selling point here at all.
 
For anyone not able to understand how AR glasses are going to benefit you, these are some thing I (and others) came up with that would actually be useful for me:

  • Having a recipe floating in front of you while cooking, leaving your hands free
  • Having your grocery shopping list in front of you, leaving your hands free
  • Navigation like you're in a video game
  • Project a screen anywhere and watch a movie
  • Project a screen anywhere and play a video game (with a controller probably)
  • Project a screen anywhere and do cloud computing (Full MacOS experience) if you bring your mouse and keyboard
  • Browse and listen to music (i.c.w. AirPods, doubt glasses will have speakers)
  • Enhanced family board games, D&D, we've seen this stuff before with AR kit, but way more convenient and cool with glasses instead holding an iPad/iPhone
  • Browsing the web anywhere, anytime, handsfree, no need to pull out your phone
  • Reading books handsfree
  • Decorate your house (or anything anywhere) digitally
  • Automatic translation when someone speaks to you in another language
  • Magnify/increase contrast/provide light for hard to read things
  • Identify trees/flowers/animals etc.
  • Glasses + Airtags. Getting on-screen markers for that thing you are looking for.
 
For anyone not able to understand how AR glasses are going to benefit you, these are some thing I (and others) came up with that would actually be useful for me:

  • Having a recipe floating in front of you while cooking, leaving your hands free
  • Having your grocery shopping list in front of you, leaving your hands free
  • Navigation like you're in a video game
  • Project a screen anywhere and watch a movie
  • Project a screen anywhere and play a video game (with a controller probably)
  • Project a screen anywhere and do cloud computing (Full MacOS experience) if you bring your mouse and keyboard
  • Browse and listen to music (i.c.w. AirPods, doubt glasses will have speakers)
  • Enhanced family board games, D&D, we've seen this stuff before with AR kit, but way more convenient and cool with glasses instead holding an iPad/iPhone
  • Browsing the web anywhere, anytime, handsfree, no need to pull out your phone
  • Reading books handsfree
  • Decorate your house (or anything anywhere) digitally
  • Automatic translation when someone speaks to you in another language
  • Magnify/increase contrast/provide light for hard to read things
  • Identify trees/flowers/animals etc.
  • Glasses + Airtags. Getting on-screen markers for that thing you are looking for.

Yep, seems like great functionality and use-cases as long as its price isn’t too unreasonable.
 
That's really the big thing, is coming up with compelling use cases. For the general public this is where VR stumbled and AR has so far.

It might be relatively low use cases - like replace your sunglasses so you get your messages etc. while you're driving and throw in maps etc.. But so far nobody has come up with anything - it'll be interesting to see what Apple has for its expected uses. Would not be surprised to see it delayed beyond 2021.
Let me correct you on that: It‘s not ideas that are missing, it‘s the hardware, really. For VR and AR you‘re right, but this will be a display in front of your eyes. The potential is limitless.

- Notifications
- Auto-Shazam
- Subtitles for speaking persons (perfect for the hearing impaired)
- real-time translation, while we‘re at it
- visual navigation cues (arrows and kind of a mini-map)
- Find My-app could be enhanced as well
- Health data in real-time
- AR shop sites so you can see your item right in front of you
- CarPlay right in your vision (minimized)
- while we‘re at it: the dashboard of your car in your vision
- context aware visuals, we heard already of Apple QR codes

Exciting times, really.
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Yep, seems like great functionality and use-cases as long as its price isn’t too unreasonable.
499 USD.
 
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I can’t see them calling it Apple Glass, too similar to Google Glass.
Apple will have a different Vision.
The good thing is that glass could be theoretically everywhere. Smart mirrors, smart glasses, even smart windows would be possible.
 
For anyone not able to understand how AR glasses are going to benefit you, these are some thing I (and others) came up with that would actually be useful for me:

  • Having a recipe floating in front of you while cooking, leaving your hands free
  • Having your grocery shopping list in front of you, leaving your hands free
  • Navigation like you're in a video game
  • Project a screen anywhere and watch a movie
  • Project a screen anywhere and play a video game (with a controller probably)
  • Project a screen anywhere and do cloud computing (Full MacOS experience) if you bring your mouse and keyboard
  • Browse and listen to music (i.c.w. AirPods, doubt glasses will have speakers)
  • Enhanced family board games, D&D, we've seen this stuff before with AR kit, but way more convenient and cool with glasses instead holding an iPad/iPhone
  • Browsing the web anywhere, anytime, handsfree, no need to pull out your phone
  • Reading books handsfree
  • Decorate your house (or anything anywhere) digitally
  • Automatic translation when someone speaks to you in another language
  • Magnify/increase contrast/provide light for hard to read things
  • Identify trees/flowers/animals etc.
  • Glasses + Airtags. Getting on-screen markers for that thing you are looking for.

Adjustable darkness.

Recording of critical events faster than you can take out your phone (car hit and run, experiencing bad behavior by police, etc.)

Eye tracking exercises or games. When people started using Bluetooth headsets for phone calls, they often looked like crazy people walking around and talking to themselves. Now imagine how they will look with their eyes twitching around.
 
Adjustable darkness.

Recording of critical events faster than you can take out your phone (car hit and run, experiencing bad behavior by police, etc.)

Eye tracking exercises or games. When people started using Bluetooth headsets for phone calls, they often looked like crazy people walking around and talking to themselves. Now imagine how they will look with their eyes twitching around.
Apple Glass does not work on sunglasses at the moment as far as we know.
There‘s no camera on it as far as we know. So, I guess eye tracking will be just used for focusing on different tiles or whatever the Starboard UI will consist of.
 
Will this turn me into Samus Aran so I can fight the coronavirus?

It will turn you into Asterix

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(from Asterix and the Chariot Race/Astérix et la Transitalique 2017)
 
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