You're right. My mistake.No, it isn't. It has to do with charging vs. capacity, not processor draw or performance.
You're right. My mistake.No, it isn't. It has to do with charging vs. capacity, not processor draw or performance.
Nothing wrong with the checkbox approach, I’d prefer it actually.Nobody is asking Apple to disable the feature.
Just leave a checkbox there so the power users can disable it. The checkbox can be checked by default. Everybody gets it, and those who can do better are allowed to disable it. What's wrong with that?
I had 3000+ cycles on my last battery and more/continuous cycles are better.I think it blows. I disabled that feature on my 2018 Air and manage my battery health myself--less cycles, better life. Again...less cycles, better life.
Because they all think they are better hardware/software engineers than any that work at Apple. I wish there was a program that allowed these people to build their own laptops with a live streaming feed so we could watch them blow up within the first 72 hours. Assuming, that is, they can keep them running for more than 15 minutes....so you just want the “control” of destroying your battery’s lifespan for reasons I suppose?
This results in a longer viable lifetime of the device before you have to shell out for a battery replacement service or replace the machine. I don’t understand how a site full of “planned obsolescence” posts complains about a longer lasting Mac at the same time.
Because it is my computer and I should be able to control it.Why would you not want this on? It’s the same as the smart charge feature of iOS isn’t it?
You have no idea what you’re talking about. I, unlike you, do — I’m an electrical engineer, I’ve designed Li-Ion battery-powered products, and I’ve read dozens of actual scientific papers, on peer-reviewed high-impact journals, about battery lifespan.Because they all think they are better hardware/software engineers than any that work at Apple. I wish there was a program that allowed these people to build their own laptops with a live streaming feed so we could watch them blow up within the first 72 hours. Assuming, that is, they can keep them running for more than 15 minutes.
Or maybe a reality show where they each get their own personal UNIVAC to keep running to win a prize while losers get shot out of a cannon into the Sun. It’s a win/win either way and would be funny as hell.
Are you on the latest versions of Catalina or Big Sur?Why don't I see this percentage information on my 2015 MacBook Air?
As an American, I have a RIGHT to abuse my battery and make it degrade as fast as I want it too, NOBODY can tell me otherwise!Someone will think a lawsuit is a good idea.
Which would not be needed if Apple allowed users to change the battery at will.I have no issue with this. Infact I’d be happy to only have my devices charge to 80% if it meant big increases in the lifespan of the battery.
It's not unrelated. It's basically the same with little differences.Just to clarify for everyone mentioning the "optimized charging" option...
That's unrelated, but also new to Big Sur.
Like how Apple tries to slowly charge your iPhone overnight (to prolong a battery's life), I recently noticed my MBP 2018 saying "not currently charging <blahblah optimized>" after plugging it in.
The original post is referencing slowing the processor as the battery ages.
This may be because Apple's unsure how the processor will age in the long term, but ultimately the backlight probably draws more power than the new ARM CPU...
So why not just reduce the maximum screen brightness instead? (Other than that would be a clearly visible downgrade, while reducing CPU performance is arguably more deceptive.)
The real goal is (like with my 2008 MBP) preventing the computer from suddenly drawing too much current and cutting off.
You can disable it but after the next restart it is enabled again. At least on my MBP.Is this talking about "Optimized Battery Charging"? Im able to disable that on my M1 Macair.
Click battery icon in menu bar -> battery preferences.
More Cycles = More SalesI think it blows. I disabled that feature on my 2018 Air and manage my battery health myself--less cycles, better life. Again...less cycles, better life.
No, it's the "Battery Health..." button.Is this talking about "Optimized Battery Charging"? Im able to disable that on my M1 Macair.
Click battery icon in menu bar -> battery preferences.
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I think throttling is forced on the M1 Macs, which can't be toggled off.Is this talking about "Optimized Battery Charging"? Im able to disable that on my M1 Macair.
Click battery icon in menu bar -> battery preferences.
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Great post! I don't have much knowledge on the matter other than 50% charge level is the most ideal charge state of a battery?You have no idea what you’re talking about. I, unlike you, do — I’m an electrical engineer, I’ve designed Li-Ion battery-powered products, and I’ve read dozens of actual scientific papers, on peer-reviewed high-impact journals, about battery lifespan.
The Apple feature tries to predict when you’re going to need 100% battery charge, and time the charges that way. To maximize battery lifespan, the main thing it can do is keep it at a lower charge (e.g. 60% seems to be an ideal value) for as long as possible. Batteries degrade much much much faster when near 100% state of charge than when at 60% or even 80%.
I, unlike Apple, actually know when I’m going to need 100% charge. In my case, the answer is: never — OK, maybe once or twice a year, but this year I’ve yet to purposefully charge it beyond 60% (using the AlDente app to control the state of charge).
So, Apple may have the best and brightest engineers of the world. Maybe they can do the very best, state of the art machine-learning mumbo-jumbo (actually, from my experience it’s crap — optimized battery charging doesn’t work for me in the iPhone at all — but let’s pretend for a moment that it’s not crap). Unfortunately one thing that’s beyond Apple is predicting the future: i.e. when will you need 100% charge, so you can start charging it exactly X minutes before so the moment you unplug it, it’s at 100%. Since it can’t do that, those that care enough about managing their battery will always be able to do better. It’s simply impossible to argue with that.