Apple's Black Friday Event Begins in Australia and New Zealand With Free Gift Cards Worth Up to $210

[69Mustang]

Maybe "Free of Additional Cost?" But that's straining the message. Because, obviously, without the offer you would normally pay $50 for a $50 gift card.

It's an MR style error imo. The gift card isn't free. It isn't even free of additional cost. Think about it. There is one and only one way to get the gift card. To get that A$210 gift card you have to spend upwards of a thousand dollars. So the card literally, figuratively, and contextually can't be free. Unless, as I stated earlier, you're my wife. Then all bets are off. There are hundreds, if not thousands of justifications as to why that gift card is indeed actually free. Straight faced and with no equivocation - she will have reasons. They haven't changed in the 22 years since I said "Well if I have to I guess I have to, so... I do".

 

[Martyimac]

How are you paying for them? If you buy an item at that price before this offer you would get nothing but the product would still be the same price, if you now buy the product and get the gift card your still paying the same for the product but your getting something in return.

Simple, if money had to leave me to get the gift card, it was paid for. It's such a simple concept that most folks don't get it.
Let me put it another way, if some nice person gives me an orange, that orange is free. But if I have to buy a dozen oranges to get that "free" orange, then the free orange isn't free.

 

[swester]

Darn, nothing on the 8...

 

[christo747]

Beware! Apple might betray you. Last year they did it to me in Germany. They did not sell an iPad and give a free gift card like advertised. They sold the gift card and sold the iPad at a reduced price. Problem is taxes. I lost about 100 Euro on the purchase.

 

[69Mustang]

What amazes me are the people who think they are entitled to something for free! Apple doesn’t have to offer anything at all, in fact a few years back they never use to, yet people are still complaining now that they are giving something extra

Please point to any, and I do mean any quote in this thread complaining about Apple giving something extra. Don't waste your time looking, there isn't one. Maybe point to a quote complaining about entitlement. There isn't one of those either.
Now if I ask you to point to quotes debating the accuracy of free gift card, you'll have plenty to choose from. But that argument about entitlement and complaining about Apple is all in your head.

edit: the first one appeared above mine. but not before you wrote what you wrote.

 

[Rogifan]

No, they aren't offering free gift cards. I can't think of a single definition of free that would apply here. Declining them is immaterial since you can't get them without spending money. Spending is an absolute requirement. Not free.

How are they not free when the product you are buying is the same price it was before? It’s not like Apple raised the price of a product and then offered you a gift card.
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It's an MR style error imo. The gift card isn't free. It isn't even free of additional cost. Think about it. There is one and only one way to get the gift card. To get that A$210 gift card you have to spend upwards of a thousand dollars. So the card literally, figuratively, and contextually can't be free. Unless, as I stated earlier, you're my wife. Then all bets are off. There are hundreds, if not thousands of justifications as to why that gift card is indeed actually free. Straight faced and with no equivocation - she will have reasons. They haven't changed in the 22 years since I said "Well if I have to I guess I have to, so... I do".

Wait so you’re suggesting someone is going to spend $1000 on a Mac just so they can get a $210 gift card? Huh? One would assume who ever this person is they were already thinking about/planning to get a Mac anyway.
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Simple, if money had to leave me to get the gift card, it was paid for. It's such a simple concept that most folks don't get it.
Let me put it another way, if some nice person gives me an orange, that orange is free. But if I have to buy a dozen oranges to get that "free" orange, then the free orange isn't free.

But if the dozen oranges are the same price as they were before the offer of a 13th orange how are you paying for the 13th one? Obviously stores do 2 for 1 and other deals all the time to get people to spend money they might not otherwise have spent. In Apple’s case it doesn’t appear they’re raising the price of the product and then offering the gift card. Maybe this will entice some people to buy an iPad or whatever that they weren’t planning to buy. In that case the gift card isn’t “free” but if they were planning to buy anyway how is the gift card costing them?

 

[deanthedev]

Too bad there’s nothing I plan on buying this Black Friday. Only big purchase I have coming up is the iMac Pro for my daughter. And likely a couple HomePods.

 

[Martyimac]

How are they not free when the product you are buying is the same price it was before? It’s not like Apple raised the price of a product and then offered you a gift card.
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Wait so you’re suggesting someone is going to spend $1000 on a Mac just so they can get a $210 gift card? Huh? One would assume who ever this person is they were already thinking about/planning to get a Mac anyway.
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But if the dozen oranges are the same price as they were before the offer of a 13th orange how are you paying for the 13th one? Obviously stores do 2 for 1 and other deals all the time to get people to spend money they might not otherwise have spent. In Apple’s case it doesn’t appear they’re raising the price of the product and then offering the gift card. Maybe this will entice some people to buy an iPad or whatever that they weren’t planning to buy. In that case the gift card isn’t “free” but if they were planning to buy anyway how is the gift card costing them?

I'll just try to answer my quoted post. What your argument does is just word play. E.G. Just today the furniture stores are offering a free box spring if you buy a mattress. Granted you don't have to pay more to get the box spring like you normally would, but you STILL have to spend some money to get it. If I have to spend ANY money to get the gift/card, then the gift/card isn't free. I can't make it any simpler. If you don't get it now, there's no reason to continue quoting each others posts.

 

[rehanabdul]

Apple's one-day Black Friday shopping event is now live in Australia and New Zealand, offering customers free Apple Store gift cards worth up to A$210 or NZ$210 with the purchase of selected new Apple products today.

The deals are available through Apple's online store, and at Apple retail stores in Australia, through November 24. Apple's terms and conditions state each customer is limited to two gift cards per product category.

For the Mac, eligible models include any new 12-inch MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac Pro, including custom configurations ordered online. Mac mini and refurbished Macs do not qualify.

Australia

o 9.7-inch iPad: $70 gift card
o iPad mini 4: $70 gift card
o iPad Pro: $140 gift card
o iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus: $70 gift card
o iPhone 6s or iPhone 6s Plus: $70 gift card
o iPhone SE: $35 gift card
o Apple Watch Series 1: $35 gift card with select models
o Mac: $210 gift card with select models

New Zealand

o 9.7-inch iPad: $70 gift card
o iPad mini 4: $70 gift card
o iPad Pro: $140 gift card
o iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus: $70 gift card
o iPhone 6s or iPhone 6s Plus: $70 gift card
o iPhone SE: $35 gift card
o Apple Watch Series 1: $35 gift card with select models
o Mac: $210 gift card with select models

Apple will likely extend its Black Friday event to the United States, Canada, Europe, and select other regions tomorrow. In the U.S., the gift cards could be worth up to around $150 to $160 based on currency exchange rates.

Black Friday marks one of the few times in a year that Apple offers deals on its products. Be sure to read our Black Friday roundup for several other deals on Apple products and accessories, and larger discounts in some cases.

Article Link: Apple's Black Friday Event Begins in Australia and New Zealand With Free Gift Cards Worth Up to $210

Will the same be in US too?? like no gift cards with iPhone 8/8 Plus/X??????

 

[satchmo]

I'll just try to answer my quoted post. What your argument does is just word play. E.G. Just today the furniture stores are offering a free box spring if you buy a mattress. Granted you don't have to pay more to get the box spring like you normally would, but you STILL have to spend some money to get it. If I have to spend ANY money to get the gift/card, then the gift/card isn't free. I can't make it any simpler. If you don't get it now, there's no reason to continue quoting each others posts.

Apple doesn't even mention the word 'free'...Macrumors did.
There is no implication that you get something free for nothing. And honestly, what company is giving anything free.

It clearly suggests, 'get' a giftcard 'when you' purchase something.
But this whole 'argument' boils down to semantics.
I can't see how this offer is bad.

 

[gkarris]

Are you related to my wife? She's famous for highlighting how much she "saved" while shopping.

Yeah, what they're trying to teach in Money and Budgeting classes/courses is that it should be "spent less".

But that doesn't sound as exciting in retail...

 

[Martyimac]

Apple doesn't even mention the word 'free'...Macrumors did.
There is no implication that you get something free for nothing. And honestly, what company is giving anything free.

It clearly suggests, 'get' a giftcard 'when you' purchase something.
But this whole 'argument' boils down to semantics.
I can't see how this offer is bad.

You are correct, we are debating the semantics. I never said anywhere that the offer is bad, just debating the semantics of "free". If I needed anything that was in this sale, the gift card might be enough to get me to open the wallet, but I would never consider the gift card as "free".
And just to complicate the discussion, sometimes those gift cards have restrictions about where you can use them or you can only use them for certain items. Anyone know if these cards have restrictions?

 

[jonnyb098]

Apple never has deals on the items people want....no shocker there. And you don’t become a trillion dollar company by giving away free iPhones. Again no shocker there.

 

[MH01]

Free gift card on a Mac Pro!!! Deal!

 

[69Mustang]

How are they not free when the product you are buying is the same price it was before? It’s not like Apple raised the price of a product and then offered you a gift card.

Can you walk in an Apple Store and ask for a gift card without spending money? No, well pedantically you can do that but your chances of walking out with a gift card of any value is nil. It's not free. Can you spend X amount of money and get a gift card? Yes, yes you can.

Wait so you’re suggesting someone is going to spend $1000 on a Mac just so they can get a $210 gift card? Huh? One would assume who ever this person is they were already thinking about/planning to get a Mac anyway.

I am not suggesting that. I am stating the only way to get the $210 gift card is to spend a $1000 or more. The only way to get any of the gift cards is to spend money. My quote has nothing to do with someone's desire for a gift card.

In that case the gift card isn’t “free” but if they were planning to buy anyway how is the gift card costing them?

Intent doesn't make the card free. Not sure why that's so hard to understand. Say you're in the mall, walking by Bill's Ham & Bacon Emporium. Bill is standing in his doorway with free samples for all who pass by... hoping the sample will entice someone to purchase something. Everybody samples, no one buys. Those samples were free. IF Bill says you can only get "free" samples after you made a purchase of $30 or more... those samples aren't free anymore. Even if you were already headed to Bill's to buy bacon and ham, the samples aren't free if you have to make a purchase first. Neither is the gift card if I have to buy something to get it.

 

[BornAgainMac]

No 50% off iPhone X with delivery on the same day?

 

[Mike Oxard]

In the UK they are basically replicating the US dollar pricing, I wonder if they replicate the gift card values.......

Nah, it'll be the US dollar price minus the vat, that'll make it all fair in the minds of the beancounters.

 

[MH01]

How are they not free when the product you are buying is the same price it was before? It’s not like Apple raised the price of a product and then offered you a gift card.

Buy one, get one "free" at the supermarket must excite you ..... it's not free, you are spending money, you walk out with less $$ that you walked in with .... Free is you walk out with a product and the same money

 

[Dave245]

Please point to any, and I do mean any quote in this thread complaining about Apple giving something extra. Don't waste your time looking, there isn't one. Maybe point to a quote complaining about entitlement. There isn't one of those either.
Now if I ask you to point to quotes debating the accuracy of free gift card, you'll have plenty to choose from. But that argument about entitlement and complaining about Apple is all in your head.

edit: the first one appeared above mine. but not before you wrote what you wrote.

I would say the people who are saying that the “gift cards aren’t free” is complaining, so is the I have to buy something in order to get the gift card. My point is yes you have to buy something because Apple are a business and not a charity, people seem to come across as they are entitled to something just because it’s Black Friday. Any gift card is a bonus and not something Apple have to give you, your not paying for it.
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Simple, if money had to leave me to get the gift card, it was paid for. It's such a simple concept that most folks don't get it.
Let me put it another way, if some nice person gives me an orange, that orange is free. But if I have to buy a dozen oranges to get that "free" orange, then the free orange isn't free.

No, your paying for the item you are buying (iPad, Mac and so on) the gift card is a bonus and not something you are paying for. It would cost you extra to buy the gift card, ie of you wanted £50 you would have to pay £50.

 

[guitardave62000]

Is this promo compatible with student prices and discounts?
This is really important because I'm expecting to buy a MacBook Pro with student pricing.

In the terms sheet says: "This promotion is compatible with other promotions" but last year it wasn't compatible with student prices.

Thank you

Also interested to know the answer to this

 

[69Mustang]

I would say the people who are saying that the “gift cards aren’t free” is complaining, so is the I have to buy something in order to get the gift card. My point is yes you have to buy something because Apple are a business and not a charity, people seem to come across as they are entitled to something just because it’s Black Friday. Any gift card is a bonus and not something Apple have to give you, your not paying for it.

Might I suggest going back to look at those quotes. My quote actually started this whole rigmarole. There is no complaint about Apple. In fact, it has zero to do with Apple. There is no expectation regarding the gift cards. It's not even a conversation related to Black Friday. The entire conversation is about attaching the word free to the gift card.

You're wasting time trying to defend Apple when Apple isn't under attack. MR's use of free is

 

[Dave245]

Might I suggest going back to look at those quotes. My quote actually started this whole rigmarole. There is no complaint about Apple. In fact, it has zero to do with Apple. There is no expectation regarding the gift cards. It's not even a conversation related to Black Friday. The entire conversation is about attaching the word free to the gift card.

You're wasting time trying to defend Apple when Apple isn't under attack. MR's use of free is

It’s possible I’ve been mistaken, I haven’t read every comment on the thread! From the couple I have read that’s how it’s come across.

I’m not here to defend Apple they are a multi billion dollar company I don’t think they need my defence I was just trying to make a point of people seem to feel entitled, dunno maybe I’m wrong

 

[Martyimac]

It’s possible I’ve been mistaken, I haven’t read every comment on the thread! From the couple I have read that’s how it’s come across.

I’m not here to defend Apple they are a multi billion dollar company I don’t think they need my defence I was just trying to make a point of people seem to feel entitled, dunno maybe I’m wrong

I'll save you a little reading. Like 69Mustang, nothing I have posted has been against Apple but both of us have taken MR's use of the word free to task. Nothing else.

 

[576316]

Meh, these are not bad deals. Getting a chunky gift card to load your new device up with apps and media is always a win.

Edit: I spoke too soon, these are Apple Store gift cards. I guess handy to get money off another purchase, though the amounts may be negligible.

 

[Martyimac]

Meh, these are not bad deals. Getting a chunky gift card to load your new device up with apps and media is always a win.

Edit: I spoke too soon, these are Apple Store gift cards. I guess handy to get money off another purchase, though the amounts may be negligible.

Thanks for the post. It answers my other post questioning how the gift cards can be used. Personally it makes these offers much less appealing. TO ME FOLKS, TO ME ONLY!!!