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Their mindless machinations remind me exactly of the types of conversations from the brilliant BBC show W1A (on Netflix). If you haven't seen it, it's basically people talking quickly in bombast about absolutely nothing. It's hilarious because it satirizes every corporate, bureaucratic meeting about nothing you've ever sat through. Apple has risen to the level of real-life parody when it comes to talking about Apple Music.
 
Apple should have kept a free version of AM.

I agree. It was a dumb decision by Cook. Before it could establish a large audience, he moves it to the pay service. Now it has been largely forgotten by the public at large.
 
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Go to a playlist, click Edit, and drag songs around use the three grey lines on the right of the screen. You can also drag songs around in "Up Next" in the same way.

Got to agree with you on the bugs, though. Just updated to 10.2 and have had most of my music duplicated, and the one playlist I made ("2016 Favourite Music") is still there, along with "2016 Favourite Music2".



The fact you joined this forum today and wrote a lot of that in CAPS makes your argument a lot more convincing.

To bad it's absolute ********.

Thanks, I know that I can manually change the order of the songs but I wanna have my playlist automatically sorted with the newest song at the top. I can do this in iTunes but not on my iPhone, which really really sucks because I have a playlist with more than 500 songs and I always have to scroll down for a minute to be able to listen to my recently added songs.
 
How is that supposed to happen with a service that's only available with a monthly subscription? They wouldn't manage it even if it was totally free.

Do these PR people even think about what they are saying before they come out with such crap. :rolleyes:

No - that is why they are PR people.
 
I don't like the new Apple tease. Just release great things and stop suggesting you might some day release something that does not suck. Just make great stuff. When asked about upcoming products just say, we don't comment on unreleased products.
 
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Millennial here as well, I also am ashamed of the mumbling rap artists we've made famous
Feel your pain, friend.
Hey, try this... type in "Miles", or "Bill Evans", or 'Jarreau' for a while and let Apple Music start adjusting your 'For You' tab to showing some good music.
Personally, my musical horizons have expanded exponentially since I stopped listening to my own, 40-year-old library (over and over) and exploring the vast catalog now available to me.
My problem is simply that I'd be perfectly ok paying more like $20/month if I knew the $$ was going to the writers and musicians instead of just to their labels.

But frankly, the day of the recording superstar are pretty much dead, with only musical corpses and leeches inhabiting that world now. Music is returning to what it originally was... a means of promotion for live performance.
For better or worse.
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Great reading skills you have there. Lower pricing =/= free.
Anything below $10/mo is essentially free. Can't believe how people bitch about the cheap prices of anything digital now.
 
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As a stock holder I want Apple Music to work and be profitable. But for the life of me I cant see someone paying their subscription fees when I can hear free music semi tailored to my tastes on services like Pandora.

I guess I hope their big changes are successful......
I like apple music because it stores on all my playlists and personal music I worked for years making. And I can stream the new music I find from Spotify New Music Friday and Spotify Discover without ads. The interface is annoying sometimes.
 
Feel your pain, friend.
Hey, try this... type in "Miles", or "Bill Evans", or 'Jarreau' for a while and let Apple Music start adjusting your 'For You' tab to showing some good music.
Personally, my musical horizons have expanded exponentially since I stopped listening to my own, 40-year-old library (over and over) and exploring the vast catalog now available to me.
My problem is simply that I'd be perfectly ok paying more like $20/month if I knew the $$ was going to the writers and musicians instead of just to their labels.

But frankly, the day of the recording superstar are pretty much dead, with only musical corpses and leeches inhabiting that world now. Music is returning to what it originally was... a means of promotion for live performance.
For better or worse.
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Anything below $10/mo is essentially free. Can't believe how people bitch about the cheap prices of anything digital now.
Pandora is $5 a month, less if you pay for the whole year at once. The only thing that Apple Music offers that Pandora doesn't to my knowledge is Siri integration.
 
I have a very large personal music library and I don't pay for enough monthly data on my cellular plan to stream music as much as I listen.

I want to know what Apple, Spotify, Pandora, and anyone else has to offer an offline listener like me.

The fact is, none of these services offer me a damn thing. Great, I can listen to any album in the iTunes library. Oh wait... I'm mobile and can't use the data... I want a curated list.... oh that's only for streamers...

Video program says add absolutely nothing to Apple Music or the Beats 1 programming. I can't afford the data to stream the music, how am I going to stream video?

Also; Beats 1 is for a specific audience. Like all other FM radio stations, it's made for the popular music fan. If you don't like what's on the radio, you're not likely to enjoy Beats 1.

Until data limits are more affordable, offline options need to be included. And that's my reason for not being on Apple Music. It's a waste of money for me right now and I buy plenty of music that I actually enjoy.

Where can Apple Music fill in the gaps for me? Cause I'm not seeing a single benefit.
You can download the music from Apple Music and listen to it offline....
 
All the execs at apple are contracted to create sentences from the same pool of words.

For once, I would like to hear someone from Apple be honest and say, listen, there's nothing special in the "pipeline" or on the "horizon". What you got last year is basically what you're getting this year, maybe slightly different, a little faster, maybe a price increase, reduced battery life, more hype to compensate for our shortcomings, some new marketing names, new services that most people don't care about, etc. Of course, anyone at Apple using those words would be on the way out as they said them.
 
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something special?

Perhaps for Millenials and modern R&B but for the rest of the world? They'll go yawn, you call that Music?

Every single person on the planet

Well that's gonna fail isn't it....nothing like making a claim that you can't ever hope to reach...

It's too bad -- there's a whole world of amazing talent and endless variety of music, yet it seems that there's an extremely narrow focus on what's shoved down our throats.

I can't say I like much of anything "mainstream" these days, and it isn't for the sake of being counter-culture. It's just that all the Top40/radio/pop culture music is exactly the same and frankly, dismal.

It reminds me of the intro from Lego Movie where everyone in the whole city is high off their tree signing "Everything Is Awesome."
 
This just makes me want to puke. The obnoxious fake smile. She's all about appearances, not at all about simplicity and customer experience. As long as her ego is boosted. Bozo indeed. People who need to make extravagant statements "like every single person on the earth" are out of it. Apple Music is a mess. They are already trying to do too much with it and now they are just adding more. Why doesn't Tim have the balls to fire Eddy and the gang and put someone pragmatic in there?
 
When having the once in a lifetime opportunity to make such a choice, why be like GE when you can be like Blackberry!

I'm arguing for the customer, not Apple. What is good for the business is not always good for the customer. GE's longevity is undoubtedly due to its diversity but it is barely a recognized consumer brand anymore. Its brand is mostly seen in industrial circles. If Apple thinks that textbook business strategies will compensate for the decreasing mojo that differentiated them, the brand will become passe.
 
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I miss Eddy Cue jumping in.
Walking in front of the camera, heavy gesturing about the coolness with his Mexican shirt 20 miles out of his trousers, obscuring everything, in his act of self-glorification.
Or do we have to see this lady as his darker shadow...?
 
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