It was more likely a marketing error that resulted in reduced sales.
The marketing error was the belief that people might buy small phones.
It was more likely a marketing error that resulted in reduced sales.
As you say, the M-series has been used in an iPad, although there does already seems to be confusion here, never mind the general public. Perhaps Apple will use an A-series chip, but name it M5 SE or something like that.Like the confusion when the iPads switched from A-series chips to M-series chips? 🙃
As you say, the M-series has been used in an iPad, although there does already seems to be confusion here, never mind the general public. Perhaps Apple will use an A-series chip, but name it M5 SE or something like that.
Read the replies to this story. There are multiple responses where they believe the rumoured cheap MacBook won't be able to run macOS apps because it has an iPhone chip. It causes confusion.Leaving aside that there aren’t huge differences between the A-series and M-series in the first place, almost nobody cares what series is in the device. Nobody goes, “I’d really buy an Apple Watch but it only has e-cores”.
An A-series MacBook is slower and lacks Thunderbolt. As a result, they can price it below the Air. I don’t think this is very confusing.
It causes confusion.
Hehe, you've been around long enough to know that comments on a front page article are not necessarily representative of what people actually believe.Read the replies to this story. There are multiple responses where they believe the rumoured cheap MacBook won't be able to run macOS apps because it has an iPhone chip. It causes confusion.
Read the replies to this story. There are multiple responses where they believe the rumoured cheap MacBook won't be able to run macOS apps because it has an iPhone chip. It causes confusion.
Then your experience is about 10 years behind and you need to catch up. Today right now Apple sells the M1 MacBook Air for $599 and that by far is the best value laptop in tech, some would might even argue the M4 MacBook Air is an even better value. Point is, Apple is no longer the high end only brand, and this new MacBook is simply just to replace the M1 MacBook Air. Which Apple needs to do, they can’t sell that laptop forever and it’s gonna lose macOS support in a couple years.in my experience, Apple is worst value for budget- poor people are better off elsewhere. Apple still excels at high end devices though you pay an iOS/macOS premium for them.
And “slower” is a relative term here. If the new chip is even a little faster than the M1 then it’s already going to give mainstream PCs with Intel i-series and AMD Ryzen series chips headaches along with better battery life. Apple isn’t just dipping its toe into the mainstream market with a device of comparable performance—they’re bringing the benefits of their Apple Silicon tech into the mainstream.An A-series MacBook is slower and lacks Thunderbolt. As a result, they can price it below the Air. I don’t think this is very confusing.
It’s not an “iPhone chip”, the iPad and iPad mini and Apple TV and original HomePod, hell even the Studio Display, all run on A chips. Just like how the M chip is not a “Mac chip” as it’s used in iPads and Apple Vision Pro etc. None of this causes any confusion. Plus once Apple announces the product and shows that it’s a fully fledged MacBook running macOS then that would quiet all of the idiots who think what you’re saying.Read the replies to this story. There are multiple responses where they believe the rumoured cheap MacBook won't be able to run macOS apps because it has an iPhone chip. It causes confusion.
I believe that Walmart in the US was selling boatloads of them (which probably counts as "widely" available from a US-centric POV) - probably why Apple are considering doing this.Imagine if the old M1 MacBook Air were still widely available now at $699 US. It’s still a better machine than pretty much anything in the mainstream laptop market. I can tell you I could have sold a boatload of them.
You think Apple is gonna take the A18 Pro, a chip they’ve had for a while, and just randomly rename it to M5 SE or something like that?? Holy **** NO, I honestly cannot believe anyone would even *think* that that would happen, that makes no sense from any angle you look at it. An A chip renamed as an M chip? That’s LITERALLY what the existing M chips are right now! They’re just more powerful A chips, that’s all, it’s just a branding name. Also what are some examples of this confusion you’re referring to with the iPads using M chips? Because you’re just completely making that up, you’re making up random nonsense in your head to try to justify the random nonsense in your head, that’s circular logic.As you say, the M-series has been used in an iPad, although there does already seems to be confusion here, never mind the general public. Perhaps Apple will use an A-series chip, but name it M5 SE or something like that.
True, but if this device becomes a reality, it seems likely that reviewers whose income depends on views and clicks might choose to keep the "iPhone chip" as part of the description.It’s not an “iPhone chip”, the iPad and iPad mini and Apple TV and original HomePod, hell even the Studio Display, all run on A chips.
I don't get why people are comparing a discounted price of a 5 year old computer to a new potential computer.Then your experience is about 10 years behind and you need to catch up. Today right now Apple sells the M1 MacBook Air for $599 and that by far is the best value laptop in tech, some would might even argue the M4 MacBook Air is an even better value. Point is, Apple is no longer the high end only brand, and this new MacBook is simply just to replace the M1 MacBook Air. Which Apple needs to do, they can’t sell that laptop forever and it’s gonna lose macOS support in a couple years.
Once this is released, whichever chip it uses, the confusion will be replaced by information.Among whom, though?
If Apple made a device called a "Mac" that doesn't run "mac"OS, that would indeed be very confusing. But I don't think that's the plan here at all. This is just a MacBook, that runs macOS, but that happens to use an A-series SoC, which for most users won't matter at all.
I didn't say there was confusion on iPads using M chips, I was acknowledging that Apple have deviated from M for Mac, A for iPhones and iPads. But I think going the other way is not a good look, M chips are noted so prominently on the boxes and a lot of marketing.You think Apple is gonna take the A18 Pro, a chip they’ve had for a while, and just randomly rename it to M5 SE or something like that?? Holy **** NO, I honestly cannot believe anyone would even *think* that that would happen, that makes no sense from any angle you look at it. An A chip renamed as an M chip? That’s LITERALLY what the existing M chips are right now! They’re just more powerful A chips, that’s all, it’s just a branding name. Also what are some examples of this confusion you’re referring to with the iPads using M chips? Because you’re just completely making that up, you’re making up random nonsense in your head to try to justify the random nonsense in your head, that’s circular logic.
I’m trying to understand aren’t they A series chips just less powerful versions of the M series but basically the same architecture? So won’t they be able to run Mac apps because they are in essence baby M-series chips? I’m lost by this processor and its whole purpose I guess.
This is just branding and marketing. I'm sure Apple will figure it out.I didn't say there was confusion on iPads using M chips, I was acknowledging that Apple have deviated from M for Mac, A for iPhones and iPads. But I think going the other way is not a good look, M chips are noted so prominently on the boxes and a lot of marketing.
just randomly rename it to M5 SE or something like that?? Holy **** NO, I honestly cannot believe anyone would even *think* that that would happen, that makes no sense from any angle you look at it. An A chip renamed as an M chip? That’s LITERALLY what the existing M chips are right now!
I hate these wide screens 16/9 smaller than 19”. Small laptop screens need to be 4/3 to be useable.
On a side note, I can see a time where Apple reduces their iPad / Macbook lineup from 3 down back to 2. So you have;It’s not an “iPhone chip”, the iPad and iPad mini and Apple TV and original HomePod, hell even the Studio Display, all run on A chips. Just like how the M chip is not a “Mac chip” as it’s used in iPads and Apple Vision Pro etc. None of this causes any confusion. Plus once Apple announces the product and shows that it’s a fully fledged MacBook running macOS then that would quiet all of the idiots who think what you’re saying.
Alternatively, I would prefer Apple to move to 4 or 5 model lineups.On a side note, I can see a time where reduces their iPad / Macbook lineup from 3 down back to 2. So you have;
Macbooks (13" / 15") powered by A-series chips. MBP (14" / 16") models powered by M-series processors
iPads (11" / 12.9") powered by A-series chips. iPad Pro (11" / 12.9") powered by M-series chips
Less confusing than a 3-model lineup
On a side note, I can see a time where reduces their iPad / Macbook lineup from 3 down back to 2. So you have;
Macbooks (13" / 15") powered by A-series chips. MBP (14" / 16") models powered by M-series processors
iPads (11" / 12.9") powered by A-series chips. iPad Pro (11" / 12.9") powered by M-series chips
Less confusing than a 3-model lineup