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I'd buy one.

I do 90% of my work in a desktop environment (my employer provides an iMac and I use a M4 Pro Mac mini at home), but I often wish I had a MacBook for light productivity work when I'm on the go (e.g., at my kid's sports practices). I've been using an 11" M1 iPad Pro as my portable device for the last few years, and iPadOS just doesn't cut it. Multitasking, and even MS Office apps (Word, Excel) are harder to use. Yet, I can't quite justify dropping $799 for a MacBook Air as a third machine.
 
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I'd buy one.

I do 90% of my work in a desktop environment (my employer provides an iMac and I use a M4 Pro Mac mini at home), but I often wish I had a MacBook for light productivity work when I'm on the go (e.g., at my kid's sports practices). I've been using an 11" M1 iPad Pro as my portable device for the last few years, and iPadOS just doesn't cut it. Multitasking, and even MS Office apps (Word, Excel) are harder to use. Yet, I can't quite justify dropping $799 for a MacBook Air as a third machine.
in terms of business productivity, cheapest Macbook will beat most expensive iPad
 
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No, they would shrink the bezels by expanding the screen to 13”. The case would not need to shrink.

Easy to say, nearly impossible to do in reality.

Look at the bezel of MacBook Air and Pro.

It would be impossible to keep the 12-inch chassis and fit in a 13-inch display.
 
Up until last year I would agree, but OS26 can be 100% used with a M&K and has all the windowing and so on. I reckon they might resurrect the iBook branding for it to separate it from the MacBook Air.
I can not stress this enough but macOS is more than just windowing and multitasking. Just because iPadOS 26 can do that and be used with a mouse and keyboard does not mean anything. The iPad is still designed for touch first, “designed” being a keyword. iPadOS can only install apps from the App Store, macOS can install apps from anywhere, that right there makes it a HUGE difference. But the list of how much more mature macOS over iPadOS is HUGE.

Plus the iBook branding is not coming back, at least not under Tim Cook, he has proved that he does not prefer the “i” naming scheme as he has never released a product or service that uses it, the only ones that still exist are from the Steve Jobs era. In fact Tim Cook has removed the “i” from things in his tenure (iPhoto to Photos for example). But he prefers to name products with “Apple” being the first word, ie: Apple Vision Pro, Apple Watch, Apple Music, Apple Arcade etc etc. So no I guarantee this product will just be called “MacBook”, just like the entry device is called “iPad” and “iPhone” with nothing after the name.
 
Easy to say, nearly impossible to do in reality.

Look at the bezel of MacBook Air and Pro.

It would be impossible to keep the 12-inch chassis and fit in a 13-inch display.
No one is saying exactly 13 inches, the rumors just say “around 13 inches”. I have taken my 12” MacBook and measured it diagonally with imagining the bezels being about as thick as my MacBook Pro and my wife’s MacBook Air and you could fit around 12.6 to 12.8 inches I believe. So something like that is what everyone is suggesting.
 
So what? Make them as thin as 10 tech advances and budget allows. If that end ups with 12.5" or a 13" in a slightly bigger case so be it.

Or hell just leave at as it was, since screensize simple wasn't the issue in the 1st place.
Or maybe go really cheap, make it plastic fantastic (remember the iPhone5c).....

We are all farting against the wind here since Apple will do what Apple wants to do no matter how stupid or smart we think that move might be.

No one is saying exactly 13 inches, the rumors just say “around 13 inches”. I have taken my 12” MacBook and measured it diagonally with imagining the bezels being about as thick as my MacBook Pro and my wife’s MacBook Air and you could fit around 12.6 to 12.8 inches I believe. So something like that is what everyone is suggesting.

Apple's not going to make a 12.5-inch or "around 13-inches" when MacBook Air is 13.6-inch. The difference is too small.

Of course 12-inch screen size was the issue. Why do you think there are no 12-inch notebooks today? All the PC manufacturers in the world are stupid and haven't capitalized on this huge "opportunity"? This is just like the iPhone mini folks who refused to believe small displays weren't popular.
 
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Far from just education. Countless many out there don't need much more than email, web and a few other things.
No argument from me on that, just because the focus could be education doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful outside of the education market. I'd be tempted to buy one for travel as it would be far less painful to lose that than my MBP.
 
Easy to say, nearly impossible to do in reality.

Look at the bezel of MacBook Air and Pro.

It would be impossible to keep the 12-inch chassis and fit in a 13-inch display.
Oh, I don’t think they’ll use that chassis anyway, but if Apple were to do it today, you would extend the screen closer to the edge. It might not get quite to 13” but pretty close.
 
Apple's not going to make a 12.5-inch or "around 13-inches" when MacBook Air is 13.6-inch. The difference is too small.

Of course 12-inch screen size was the issue. Why do you think there are no 12-inch notebooks today? All the PC manufacturers in the world are stupid and haven't capitalized on this huge "opportunity"? This is just like the iPhone mini folks who refused to believe small displays weren't popular.
13.3in. Closeness to Air is meaningless. Resolution, screen quality, processor, it differentiates. I still think it will be a plastic case, at least in part, instead of an expensive aluminum shell.
 
Apple can only enter the cheap PC market if it recognizes hackintosh as legal and starts offering them official support. Because what are cheap PCs, they are self-built computers.

Such as:
diy-pc.jpg


Otherwise, give up trying.
 
Uhhh yes we will, it will be an A18 Pro chip, obviously Apple would not change the name of the chip when it already has a name lol. This might be the weirdest guess in this entire thread lol.
It will never be A18 or A19 because the confusion it will generate to the general user. Mark my words
 
Apple can only enter the cheap PC market if it recognizes hackintosh as legal and starts offering them official support. Because what are cheap PCs, they are self-built computers.

Such as:View attachment 2577606

Otherwise, give up trying.
this will never happen. they wont support you installing macos on an ipad much less random x86 hardware.

pretty soon they wont even make x86 macos builds. tahoe is the last x86 build. this alone will kill hackintosh.
 
It will never be A18 or A19 because the confusion it will generate to the general user. Mark my words
How is that confusing? What are you even talking about lol? The general user doesn’t give a **** what chip it has, nor would they even know or pay attention. The iPad has the A16, the iPad mini has an A17 Pro, the iPad Air has an M3 and the iPad Pro has an M5. None of that causes issues for people, and neither would this. People would just see “cheap MacBook” and buy it. I would love to bet you on this because this would be easy money.
 
I guess they will re-use the chassis from the MacBook Air m1, kind of the same approach as the iPhone 16e that uses the iPhone 14-frame. The m1 air came with different colors and is 13 inches. Makes sense to me at least.
 
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Good morning, I know it is early, could anyone tell me please their opinion ?
For basic tasks, “Apple Office” Numbers, photos, backup, internet - is this “eMac” overkill and old M1 Air will do the same ?
There only the MacOS support imo that would make a difference.
Used M2 Air has same price like the one expected for “eMac”. So Apple migth announce EOS for M1, I see no reason except to drive sales.

This “eMac” or old Air please ? I am considering old M2 at maximum, hoping its price will decrease a bit in half a year.

Edit: first mistake is not to think about “eMac” new price, instead think of used eMac price. Yes, that will be like drop like used iPhoneSE. Corner cut EOS at best same as A series chip. Then run linux ? Ehm, could be a challence.
Corner cut will be DISPLAY, like not fully laminated (i do not scream).
 
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This worries me a bit. Who knows what they will do to cut costs. Perhaps they will force the RAM and SSD to be not user replaceable, limited in size, or very expensive to upgrade while ordering.
Perhaps they will make it hard to open and do maintenance on it so if something goes wrong which on other computers would only require a replacement with a relatively cheap part, here you would either have to bin it or pay a lot of money for repairs.

I would love to see a cheaper Apple computer available and I do wish they do it properly without making it simply to push people to "proper" models.

I don't have any recent computers (latest was bought 11 years ago), but I have often thought what I would buy if somehow I could afford 1500-2000 euros to buy one. I wish I could buy a good enough Windows PC and a cheap macOS Apple computer just to run Final Cut Pro. It wouldn't have to be the best at rendering or 8K editing. But certainly not something which would be completely unsuitable for it.

Let me get you up to speed….
 
I’m like…why? What’s the point? Why not sell a cheaper M1 if you want?

Or make a dock for your phone in a clamshell thing…or make iOS proper.

Who needs this chip? Only because you made the M too powerful and need people to need shorter time between upgrades…
 
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Apple will have a lot of 5 core GPU A19Pros from the abandoned iPhone Air production line.
The iPhone Air has not been abandoned. They have merely scaled back production by a small percentage. Happens often enough without media hyperbole blowing things way out of proportion. Besides which there is an 18 Air already in development.
 
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Apple can only enter the cheap PC market if it recognizes hackintosh as legal and starts offering them official support. Because what are cheap PCs, they are self-built computers.

Such as:View attachment 2577606

Otherwise, give up trying.

Thats nonsense.

Build that thing from new non crappy parts and try to beat MacMini pricing.

-> Apple has an offer in the "cheap PC market".

Wether you like that or prefer running Win11 on something like above is your choice.
 
Apple's not going to make a 12.5-inch or "around 13-inches" when MacBook Air is 13.6-inch. The difference is too small.

You mean like the differences between the 13.6/15" MBA vs the 14/16" MBP?

Screen size was never the issue, it was always the size of a non cramped kbd, plausible bezels and aspect ratio.
In the early 2000s that was 12" at 4:3 for the iBook/PowerBook (yep the same exact size and res for those 2).
later it went down to 11" at 16:9 with some MBA and back to 12" at 16:10 with rMB.

As to "nobody" making those small laptops today... got to Amazon, type in "laptop", select 10-12" and ups, pages on pages ranging from ultra cheap Chromebooks to stuff around the same 500-700 pricepoint suggested for the MBC(heap).
 
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