It looks like it struck a much bigger nerve than what was initially observed.
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Apple's 'Communicating Stylus' for Capturing Digital Versions of Handwritten Notes Wins Patent
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It looks like it struck a much bigger nerve than what was initially observed.
good day, sir! good day, i say!
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I am objecting to the conflating of stylus product types by MR posters. "get a clue" is not even "nano aggression". I was going to apologize but then you implied i was an "amateur or novice". You...monster.[sobs]
Nope. But it's also not a promise that Apple will build it. Apple has tons of patents for things they researched but for whatever reason rejected building. They would license much of them to recover some of the R&D costs.
This could be one of them.
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Steve did NOT hate styli. That is a total misquote. He hated that they were required. The PDA of the time that the iPhone was being developed were basically useless if you lost the stupid little pen. THAT is what Steve opposed.
The very fact that they applied for this patent in 2010 means they were working on it easily a year before, when Steve was there, proves this 'hate' thing doesn't hold up. Though the fact that they had stylus in stock in their stores for a time had proven it already
read the patent in full and you'll understand.
who says they are ever going to. Just because they did research in something doesn't mean they will ever actually make it
Who says they care about trying to kill off the Surface. Last I saw it really wasn't that much of a threat. And the vast majority of iPad users likely don't need a stylus that does anything more than tap on the screen in place of their fat fingers. this 'proper pen support' that you speak of would only be useful to maybe 10% of folks. And could perhaps be achieved by 3rd party companies via the pen they create, rather than Apple putting a wacom level digitizer in the iPad.
What might be of use to a greater majority is a finer line, a small amount of pressure levels and maybe native palm rejection. But that's about as much as the majority truly needs.
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There are styli on iDevices already. Apple never blocked them from being possible. And their prior position was only anti stylus in the minds of boards like this. Steve never said anything anti stylus. He said they shouldn't be required to use the device (as they were with the Palm etc of the time the iPhone was developed). Apple had the things hanging on their own shelves for months, under Steve's watch. If he was really that against them would he have allowed them in his stores.
OMG!1! you touched a poster emotionally, you actually PROVOKED him!!1! Gratz!1!
Seriously, are you 12?
Looks like Apple patented what they saw Qualcomm demoed years ago and will be releasing with Snapdragon 810 in 2015.
http://youtu.be/X5HeL4Cajfw
http://youtu.be/X5HeL4Cajfw
OMG!1! you touched a poster emotionally, you actually PROVOKED him!!1! Gratz!1!
Seriously, are you 12?
I didn't provoke anyone. I made a post and he replied to it, obviously upset. I guess the same holds true for you too?
Oh yes, totally, Apple doesn't have a stylus and I cry myself into sleep every single night
So Apple didn't come up with the iPad name on it's own?
No, they named it after that - errr, what exactlty.. device?!
The biggest advantage of Note 10.1 over iPad and the main reason I have the Note alongside my iPad is the S pen.
Would love to see something like S pen on iPad, it just feels so natural to use a stylus on a tablet-something encoded in our genes maybe and coming from ancient Egypt times if not before that...
Oh, you mean like 3,5" is the perfect size for a phone, a tablet should not be smaller (or bigger) than 9,7" and PowerPC processors are superior to Intel technology?
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I think the biggest advantage of the Note 10.1 over the iPad is the fact that it runs the open platform Android and not the walled garden iOS.
I'm not sure that someone of your age should boast that they can't write properly...
This is not a religion, Steve Jobs saying something doesn't mean it's true or even he thought it, for God's sake, just having to say this is ridiculous.
"Who wants a stylus?" I do want a stylus, because I'm an engineer, not a child, and that's why I don't draw playschool paintings with my hands. I need to take fast notes and create fast sketches. I had to buy a buggy aftermarket stylus (every of them is buggy for one reason or another), because the iPad does not come with OEM tools for professional use, it's, talking clearly, quite a toy. I have and iPad Air 1, and with tabs reloading, no multitasking and if you don't use a stylus it offers very few advantages over a macbook air for a lot of professionals. I'll say more: the macbook air would be the obvious choice over an ipad, because right now the ipad is not what it was supposed to be.
A lighter, thinner, multitasking capable, water and dust resistant, powerful iPad with a built in Apple Stylus and with a files explorer? That's quite a tool, a futuristic sheet-like computer.
"Who wants a stylus?" I do want a stylus, because I'm an engineer, not a child, and that's why I don't draw playschool paintings with my hands. I need to take fast notes and create fast sketches. I had to buy a buggy aftermarket stylus (every of them is buggy for one reason or another), because the iPad does not come with OEM tools for professional use, it's, talking clearly, quite a toy. I have and iPad Air 1, and with tabs reloading, no multitasking and if you don't use a stylus it offers very few advantages over a macbook air for a lot of professionals. I'll say more: the macbook air would be the obvious choice over an ipad, because right now the ipad is not what it was supposed to be.
A lighter, thinner, multitasking capable, water and dust resistant, powerful iPad with a built in Apple Stylus and with a files explorer? That's quite a tool, a futuristic sheet-like computer.
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The point is I can operate my phone without having to use a stylus. That was Steve Jobs point as well.
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Based on their new naming conventions it would probably be calledPen.
Sure you can. But this will make things easier for some people. That's the point. My teen loves to draw and the drawing tablet is ok but a stylus on a computer tablet would be so much better.
People seem to think things like this are meant to replace something. It enhances it just like the iPad enhances the computer and not replace (yet) it. If it's of no use then don't buy or use it.
You are correct. Does not mean the business got it right. It's the correct way of using the word as you said. I just think earned is the closer to accurate way of putting it.
LiveScribe is too small
As someone who tried desperately to make a LiveScribe Echo work for medical training - my opinion is the company is (sadly) too small to make a Smart Pen work. It will take a GIANT software company (or a conglomerate) to make that happen.
To make a real Smart Pen it HAS to be able to write on anything. I want a quick jot on a scrap piece of paper that saved to my phone to be reviewed later and then copied and pasted to a Word doc - later I want to be able to take notes on my iPad directly on top of a Power Point presentation. The list could go on forever, and that's the point. Writing on paper isn't enough and writing on a digital surface isn't enough - someone needs to integrate all of the surfaces (for lack of a better term). That's what it sounds like Apple is trying to do here, which would be a real game changer.
Making it work will be really tough though. One of my biggest complaints with the Echo in the OR is having to turn it on. I really don't have time for that, and I can't just leave it on for 16-24 hour shifts. It needs a stellar auto on/off function.
The other enormous issue I see is: finding a way to functionally organize all those jots we'll be making. A simple time stamp honestly won't do - but then how do you organize the dozens or even hundreds of notes real professionals take in a day? I can organize and easily find my notes at the end of the day - organizing them for long term usability is insanely time consuming. Digitizing them is the exact opposite - they will be in the cloud forever, but can I actually find them when I want them?
The idea of a truly functional Smart Pen is so much more than getting the hardware right, and to actually pull it off would be one of the greatest accomplishments I could imagine. I really doubt we see what I'm hoping for in the next 2-3 years.
As someone who tried desperately to make a LiveScribe Echo work for medical training - my opinion is the company is (sadly) too small to make a Smart Pen work. It will take a GIANT software company (or a conglomerate) to make that happen.
To make a real Smart Pen it HAS to be able to write on anything. I want a quick jot on a scrap piece of paper that saved to my phone to be reviewed later and then copied and pasted to a Word doc - later I want to be able to take notes on my iPad directly on top of a Power Point presentation. The list could go on forever, and that's the point. Writing on paper isn't enough and writing on a digital surface isn't enough - someone needs to integrate all of the surfaces (for lack of a better term). That's what it sounds like Apple is trying to do here, which would be a real game changer.
Making it work will be really tough though. One of my biggest complaints with the Echo in the OR is having to turn it on. I really don't have time for that, and I can't just leave it on for 16-24 hour shifts. It needs a stellar auto on/off function.
The other enormous issue I see is: finding a way to functionally organize all those jots we'll be making. A simple time stamp honestly won't do - but then how do you organize the dozens or even hundreds of notes real professionals take in a day? I can organize and easily find my notes at the end of the day - organizing them for long term usability is insanely time consuming. Digitizing them is the exact opposite - they will be in the cloud forever, but can I actually find them when I want them?
The idea of a truly functional Smart Pen is so much more than getting the hardware right, and to actually pull it off would be one of the greatest accomplishments I could imagine. I really doubt we see what I'm hoping for in the next 2-3 years.
Dont you currently make notes in case folders? Our insurmountable organizational issues often are easily solved with some simple practices. interesting post--get some sleep!
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This is breaking that Steve Jobs barrier for sure....
Sorry buddy, but we've decided to go in another direction.
I would have thought as a company, Apple could stick to their guns always....
Whats difference few years ago, that suddenly changes now ? ....
Sorry buddy, but we've decided to go in another direction.
I would have thought as a company, Apple could stick to their guns always....
Whats difference few years ago, that suddenly changes now ? ....
Yep, it's the only way that really makes sense to me and therein lies the problem. I'm in anesthesia and any time I had a "pearl" I would open my case book, flip to "LumLammi" or whatever and jot it down. There would have to be some sort of communication between the book and the pen for that to work digitally - which would be exceptional but not noted in this particular patent. Consequently, I now have an enormous folder now that is too big to carry with me and very time consuming to maintain.
You do bring up an excellent point though. The organization STYLES are obviously out there...I'm just not smart enough to figure out how to translate them.