Apple's Craig Federighi Answers Face ID Questions in New Interview

[Sam_S]

Bring back Touch ID under the glass for next year’s iPhone!

And the headphone jack...

 

[DeepIn2U]

Ok you’ve got your point there. But with so many people using an iPhone. I’m sure a passerby next to you is using one, if not the next one. Just borrow their phone to use Find My iPhone to lock/wipe your phone. It’ll take less than a min if he/she has the app installed.

Hats true but in today's world, and city like culture, how likely do you believe someone will let you use heir phone and data to save yours, when even asking to make an emergency call to wife/husband/mother/father with any kind of story will barely get 7/10 people to comply?

I challenge you to ask anyone if you can sue their iPhone or Android to make a local call to a family member, telling the truth or a lie. See how un-scientific asking 10 people would say yes/no.

You'll see just how feasible my rebuttal is about "what is important to you" as generically speaking can be. Over time the responses hopefully will change in a big city vs somewhere more rural.

Have a great one.

 

[KeithJenner]

I wonder how FaceID will work with in-app purchases, maybe it was described and I missed it. There has to be some sort of 2 step process though, otherwise how can you prevent unintentional authentication/authorizations? For example, your son browses the app store and sees some ridiculous app that costs $1000, and says, hey mom/dad, can I get this, while he hands over the phone. You look at the screen and an automatic FaceID authorizes the purchase... just can't be that way so it has to be less seamless.

With the family sharing procedure, it doesn't work by our sons phone being handed over.

If he makes a purchase, either an app purchase or in app, I get a message on my phone saying he wants something. I click the notification which brings up the page from the app store. If I'm happy for him to get it then I click the "get" button.

At present it then brings up TouchID, so I have to verify it with my finger. I assume that with FaceID it will just verify my face and avoid that last step.

How much of a benefit that is will be quite subjective. At present, as I'm using a iPhone 6 it can take a noticeable amount of time for TouchID to appear when logging into sites, etc. I'm sure that it's a smoother experience on the iPhone 8 with TouchID as well, so the actual benefit of using FaceID would be hard to assess.

Of course, if FaceID fails regularly then it is a massive step back. I'll wait until I've actually seen it before judging that one though.

 

[bozzykid]

Absolutely not true. Please try and understand how facial features/data are collected.

Facial features are not as unique especially when relying on technology that is not as accurate as finger print readers. Apple is adding a lot of tech to make it more accurate for sure. But you can't believe Apples numbers when they are only referring to accidental detection. I don't think the average user is worried a random person looking like them will bypass their face id.

 

[citysnaps]

Facial features are not as unique especially when relying on technology that is not as accurate as finger print readers. Apple is adding a lot of tech to make it more accurate for sure. But you can't believe Apples numbers when they are only referring to accidental detection. I don't think the average user is worried a random person looking like them will bypass their face id.

Fewer data points are collected, processed, and compared with the stored reference with TouchID vs FaceID.

 

[Keirasplace]

Facial features are not as unique especially when relying on technology that is not as accurate as finger print readers. Apple is adding a lot of tech to make it more accurate for sure. But you can't believe Apples numbers when they are only referring to accidental detection. I don't think the average user is worried a random person looking like them will bypass their face id.

You just said a lot of words, but actually said nothing. Give me your white papers you wrote since you seem to want to project being an authority, but actually are just pulling opinion straight from your rump...
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Did Apple really think of everything and everyone?

Good god, please stop.

 

[bozzykid]

You just said a lot of words, but actually said nothing. Give me your white papers you wrote since you seem to want to project being an authority, but actually are just pulling opinion straight from your rump...

I post them the as soon as Apple does, especially their claim only 1 in a million can randomly unlock the phone (which isn't useful at all since no one fears a random person looking just like them unlocking the phone).

 

[extrachrispy]

Passcode dictation would be nice in certain settings, but Apple is probably concerned about the chance of someone overhearing you speaking your password. Not likely on a motorbike, but that's a niche scenario, IMO.

FreeBSD, upon much of which MacOS and iOS are built, has a saying: “tools, not policy.” What’s it to Apple if their customers do something as stupid as dictate a passcode in a crowded restaurant?
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Yes you do. Unless you plan on interacting with your phone using your nose or some other body part. Unless you have touch active gloves and I don't know if they make motorcycle gloves that are touch active .

They do. I have a pair of armored RevIt gloves with touch pads on the index fingers.