Apple's Craig Federighi Further Explains Why Stage Manager is Only for M1 iPads

We had a team member leave and so I'm debating between my 12.9 3rd gen (a12x) and now a 11 3rd gen (M1).

I like the larger screen and keyboard, but is the consensus that the update to the m1 is a big deal?

Other than what's coming in this new update, I don't notice any differences between them.
 
Looks like the new ui is the only thing taxing the iPad now , certainly not the apps or the fisher price os

Just ridiculous overkill to me . Everything else an iPad from years ago can easily handle…
 
Apple should've just stayed silent, like usual. Apple never explained to us why they dropped iPhone 7+ from iOS16, and they never explained themselves for not including feature xyz on older devices in the past. If Apple had stayed silent, people would've forgotten about this by today and shrugged it off. We would just think "oh it's the typical Apple." It's funny how they decided to come up with some BS "technical" reason now. They opened the can of worms themselves.

I can't wait for the revelation of people buying the Apple Watch S3 today, and realizing they will literally have zero updates ever.
 
It's a bunch of bull from the get go, the fact that Apple claimed it requires the M1, while the intel macbook air could do it. That's like admitting that their A12Z is actually inferior to an old intel system.
Even the M1 MacBook is inferior to an Intel MacBook Pro in some ways. You cannot connect to more than 1 external display, limited to 16GB RAM, inferior bluetooth, only 2 USB-C ports, and so on …. It’s really shows that the M1 was originated from a smartphone chip rather than a laptop one.

There are more things than just synthetic benchmarks.
 
We had a team member leave and so I'm debating between my 12.9 3rd gen (a12x) and now a 11 3rd gen (M1).

I like the larger screen and keyboard, but is the consensus that the update to the m1 is a big deal?

Other than what's coming in this new update, I don't notice any differences between them.
The A12X is already 4 years old. Expect it to be dropped in 2 or 3 years. I would keep the M1 if longevity is preferred.
 
For the first time i'm really considering going back to Windows. Federighis explanations regarding #StageManager seem aggressive and hypocritical to me to be ignored. So Federighi is telling us that a Samsung Note 9 can do things an iPad Pro from 2020 cant do by any possible software design? I am deeply disappointed by this stupid or ice cold mismangement. A glimpse of the future FormApple users?
 
For the first time i'm really considering going back to Windows. Federighis explanations regarding #StageManager seem aggressive and hypocritical to me to be ignored. So Federighi is telling us that a Samsung Note 9 can do things an iPad Pro from 2020 cant do by any possible software design? I am deeply disappointed by this stupid or ice cold mismangement. A glimpse of the future FormApple users?

A Samsung Note 9 has more RAM than every single non-M1 iPad Pro. Some Android phones even have 16 GB RAM. That is why they had real multitasking for years.

I have been critizing Apple for years putting crappy specs on their flagship phones, but Apple customers always seemed to be fine with it.

And it is actually one of the main reasons why my next smartphone might be an Android one.
 
Windows 98 had all of these features 30 years ago with only some MB of slow ram. This is a bunch of bull.
There's a saying in software engineering where software will always use up whatever resources hardware upgrades will give you. Hardware from 30 years ago can't run any software from today no matter how simple, so saying this is pretty meaningless. As a software engineer who cut his teeth on Windows 3.1 and ProDos, things are not even remotely comparable.

I wish people who knew nothing about how software is written would stop saying stuff like this because it's nonsense. There are so many variables that are different between today and 30 years ago. The resources required to just open an empty app are so much more vast than apps from back then. People do not realize what goes on in a modern OS just to open the simplest application compared to what OS'es handled back then.
 
For the first time i'm really considering going back to Windows. Federighis explanations regarding #StageManager seem aggressive and hypocritical to me to be ignored. So Federighi is telling us that a Samsung Note 9 can do things an iPad Pro from 2020 cant do by any possible software design? I am deeply disappointed by this stupid or ice cold mismangement. A glimpse of the future FormApple users?
The problem with the iPad Pro 2020 is that although it's released in 2020, it's using a 2018 hardware. The A12Z is just the A12X with an extra GPU core. They're practically the same, and I bet the lifespan of the A12Z iPads will follow the A12X iPads. Definitely sucks for those buying the 2020 iPad Pros.
 
This is what you get when Marketing takes the lead in a Tech company. Eventually the $$$ will win.

Steve probarbly would have said: you either make it work or find yourself a new job.
Steve didn’t say that about Siri and that was literally built to run on older systems. But when it became a built in feature you had to buy the latest phone to get it.
 
He forgot to mention that iPad sales are in the gutter. Technically, even if what he says is true, they could probably have gotten away with 3 virtual workspaces instead of 4 on older iPads. 2018+ iPads are plenty fast.
not sure you can say they are in the gutter. They are the largest selling tablet in the market and unit wise they on average 2 or 3 times as many iPad's as Macs every year.

Secondly, this is Apple. Aesthetics are paramount. They don't do "janky". I'd rather they carried on that approach even if some people miss out.
 
We had a team member leave and so I'm debating between my 12.9 3rd gen (a12x) and now a 11 3rd gen (M1).

I like the larger screen and keyboard, but is the consensus that the update to the m1 is a big deal?

Other than what's coming in this new update, I don't notice any differences between them.
For me CS is not a big deal, i deactivated it as soon as i tried it, well little later :p

It might be good if you plan on using an external display, but on the 11 won't be that useful (lots of wasted space).I do prefer the larger screen, but as someone mentioned the A12X chip is getting older by the day and won't see long term support as the M1.

It all depends on when you are allowed to update next, if in the next couple of year you could upgrade i'd stick with the larger display.

Also a lot depends on how the 12 is working for you now, anything too slow?
 
We had a team member leave and so I'm debating between my 12.9 3rd gen (a12x) and now a 11 3rd gen (M1).

I like the larger screen and keyboard, but is the consensus that the update to the m1 is a big deal?

Other than what's coming in this new update, I don't notice any differences between them.
M1 will be better supported down the line. Also as Apple has done a massive kull this year, I would go M1.
 
Windows 98 had all of these features 30 years ago with only some MB of slow ram. This is a bunch of bull.
yeah, window 98 was running apps that took up 2gb of ram at one time. It was also "smooth" and didnt stutter with screen tearing and make having your keystroke appear 30 seconds after you pressed it. It also didnt "blue screen of death" you for no reason.. yeah.. great comparison!
 
I absolutely believe the explanation. I have a 2018 iPad Pro 12.9” that I have to manually quit all the apps on every few hours or Safari browsing starts to crawl. A complete wipe and fresh reinstall didn’t fix it. I can’t imagine throwing anything more at this.
 
Most of the people won’t use 8 apps at one, because most of the people don’t connect the iPad to a secondary display.

Why not at least support Stage Manager with 4 apps on non-M1 iPad Pros with only mirroring supported on an external display with those iPads?
 
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