Exactly and per Apple, the 4th generation iPad Pro does NOT support anything more than 4K
This would piss people off trying to plug a 2020 iPad pro into any of Apple's shipping monitors.
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Apple's Craig Federighi Further Explains Why Stage Manager is Only for M1 iPads
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Exactly and per Apple, the 4th generation iPad Pro does NOT support anything more than 4K
This would piss people off trying to plug a 2020 iPad pro into any of Apple's shipping monitors.
Dear Craig, can we have MacOS on the Pro iPads please instead of this stage manager? Why do we still not have Apple Pro Apps on Pro iPads?
Also: does the superfast unified memory on M1 allow for a calculator app on iPad or will this be an M2 exclusive?
Also: does the superfast unified memory on M1 allow for a calculator app on iPad or will this be an M2 exclusive?
No. iPad sales are not “in the gutter.” They were the only product line not to see an increase last quarter but they blamed supply chain issues, not demand.
They haven’t taken away the existing features. iPadOS has several new features for iPads with the A12 series chips.
Yes, exactly.
Except arguably no one's "forced" to upgrade. People's ipads behave exactly as it did as when they bought it.
Do people have a right to be salty about it? sure they do.
Will people vote with their wallet? no because there's no alternatives and apple knows it.
Well, he didn't really add anything to the previous statement. He's only saying the same thing, that stage manager requires more RAM and faster SSD that can only be provided by the M1, and his claim was simply that previous gen iPads cannot provide the required performance.
But then an intel macbook air can do it. So... M1 and its fancy speeds are not actually required then.
Which is ironic, because Apple skimps on RAM in their iOS devices like no other company. Turns out RAM actually IS important, regardless of how efficient the OS may be.
Probably intentional. I mean this is a company that keeps selling a $1500 laptop with just 8GB of RAM. It's probably by design, to prematurely outdate the device when the OS and software are requiring more RAM for normal operation.
I was actually fine with it if Apple just stayed quiet. We know Apple tends to just screw older device here and there, and we know it's their strategy to nudge people to upgrade. Can't help it. But Apple coming out with a statement with technical BS made it so laughable. They opened the can of worms themselves.
Obviously, and people would've shrugged it off if Apple hadn't said anything. But they came out with technical BS excuse that drew more scrutiny now. Such a blunder. Apple needs to look for better marketing people.
The day you will have created a trillion dollar company is the day you will be allowed to criticise Apple's Marketing!
But you are getting new features. Where did Apple promise you that you would get all the new features in a new OS release? If you want to make claims then you gotta provide proof.
Supporting all of that comes at a cost. Apple pays for that with less dev time available for this, and other new features. We pay for it, with a higher chance of buggy software all round. In software engineering, you have to prioritise - you can't do it all.
Their marketing is somewhat competent. It is their post launch communications when trying to explain their dubious actions which fails on a regular basis. It is very poor and incredibly amateurish for such a resource rich company. As it seems to often come from Craig, it may be a case that he is permitted to wing it without being forced to follow a script devised by comms experts. Similar to Cook being afraid or unwilling to control Jon Ive.
The Dev kits from 2 years ago had additional 16GB of RAM, not just the 4 or 6GB of RAM on the A12Z SoC itself.
If Apple doesn't introduce new features to take advantage of new hardware capabilities, we'd never get new features.
I find it funny how angry everyone is for not getting Stage Manager.
I am sure once it's actually out people will realise that it's utterly useless for anything but the very biggest of iPad as the app they know and love is now running at 50% screen real estate.
And even then I bet a lot of people will go back to using apps fullscreen instead of having app icons and minimized app screenshots all over the place.
I am sure once it's actually out people will realise that it's utterly useless for anything but the very biggest of iPad as the app they know and love is now running at 50% screen real estate.
And even then I bet a lot of people will go back to using apps fullscreen instead of having app icons and minimized app screenshots all over the place.
But Intel MacBook Air have alot more RAM than iPads and swap on top of it.
Only the latest iPads have 8GB RAM as a minimum.
I was ready to call BS, but to be fair, you know those Apple Developer Transition Kids that cost $500? They had an A12Z chip inside a Mac mini enclosure, but they had 16GB of RAM and I'm not sure how the 512GB SSD compares to the A12Z iPad (4th gen 12.9" Pro), but that iPad had only 6GB of RAM. Doing a quick search I think the last new Mac that had less than 8GB of RAM was the low-end MacBook Air from 2015. So yeah, if Apple is wanting to move forward with these as they say, then perhaps we can expect some enhancements or expansions of Stage Manager on the M1 and newer iPads in the coming years. Perhaps they wanted to have a more solid base to build upon for advanced computing iPads, and from there the iPads will fall off in support over time like they always do years down the road. But they had to make a decision to fragment the OS for more advanced systems.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they meant to launch this update alongside the M1 iPad Pro last year. As Apple has stated themselves, the hardware teams work with the software teams to design chips to support what software wants to do and they plan things out years in advance. My guess is that the pandemic threw off the software team and they couldn't keep up with Apple's world class hardware team. There were so many rumors of an advanced multitasking mode coming to iPadOS last year, and then there were some stories that it got pushed off because they couldn't meet deadlines. I bet they were planning to release iPad Pro with M1 at WWDC and say that only it would support the new Stage Manager, but since they couldn't get it done in time and since the iPad hardware was ready, they went ahead and released it a little over a month before WWDC 21. They probably made that call in the late autumn or early winter to focus on improving the existing multitasking experience and polishing up some things and start ramping up iPad Pro M1 production. And I bet M1 was less affected by the pandemic than work by other teams because it had a longer lead time since it was their first desktop-class chip and destined for the Macs and they probably had a lot of work done on it earlier on as a major effort within the company to make this transition.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they meant to launch this update alongside the M1 iPad Pro last year. As Apple has stated themselves, the hardware teams work with the software teams to design chips to support what software wants to do and they plan things out years in advance. My guess is that the pandemic threw off the software team and they couldn't keep up with Apple's world class hardware team. There were so many rumors of an advanced multitasking mode coming to iPadOS last year, and then there were some stories that it got pushed off because they couldn't meet deadlines. I bet they were planning to release iPad Pro with M1 at WWDC and say that only it would support the new Stage Manager, but since they couldn't get it done in time and since the iPad hardware was ready, they went ahead and released it a little over a month before WWDC 21. They probably made that call in the late autumn or early winter to focus on improving the existing multitasking experience and polishing up some things and start ramping up iPad Pro M1 production. And I bet M1 was less affected by the pandemic than work by other teams because it had a longer lead time since it was their first desktop-class chip and destined for the Macs and they probably had a lot of work done on it earlier on as a major effort within the company to make this transition.
I was never happy with my iPad and I use it about every three months. Every time I want to use it I need to first charge it.
Then I sign some document with the Apple Pencil which I also need to charge first.
And then I remember that this is a really capable computer, but I can't do any programming on it.
Having the beta and stage manager on my 12.9 Pro, I tried it, don’t like it and don’t use it. Is it cool? Kinda. Would it be good on an external display? Probably. I just use my iPad in hand or with the Magic Keyboard and I don’t use apps side by side very often so don’t care for my apps in smaller windows. I just don’t think many users will miss it.
This is indeed what I was also thinking. The M1 iPad Pro will be the basis of what will get Mac features like Stage Manager and Swap from now on.
Problem nowadays is, developers are now still focused on making apps for very weak iPads with low RAM and we will never get quality apps this way that can make use of M1.
And Apple is probably facing the same issue. They can move Mac features to the iPad, but it is pain to make many different versions of it so that it works also on weak iPads with low RAM. So they just made a cut off from which iPad will get Mac features from now on.
Problem nowadays is, developers are now still focused on making apps for very weak iPads with low RAM and we will never get quality apps this way that can make use of M1.
And Apple is probably facing the same issue. They can move Mac features to the iPad, but it is pain to make many different versions of it so that it works also on weak iPads with low RAM. So they just made a cut off from which iPad will get Mac features from now on.