How can you side load and not know what it is?What about the people who don’t understand what sideloading is or the implications of it? How do you propose those people are protected from being exposed to malware and fraud?
That's not possible.
How can you side load and not know what it is?What about the people who don’t understand what sideloading is or the implications of it? How do you propose those people are protected from being exposed to malware and fraud?
Oh, you mean the standard bootloader unlock of Samsung devices that blow an efuse? You actually can't go back.As several people have pointed out - the jailbreak option is the one and only way to side load apps. Let’s say Apple agrees to provide an option to Jailbreak device in the settings, probably near the delete device option.
Imagine the warning:
“In Jailbreaking the device, it will no longer be unable to access the App Store, Apple software updates, Apple support and Apple warranty. Side loading software on to the device may cause the functionality of your device to fail. You may also lose functionality and support for purchased apps. To reverse a Jailbreak, requires full delete & reset to factory settings. Are you sure you want to Jailbreak the device?”
Good luck!
The sky is falling....Maybe you should listen to Federighi’s presentation. He debunks that argument with a strong counter-argument.
The whole point is that social-engineering will eventually get through that warning, either directly to you or to someone you’re connected with or whose services you rely on. And then there are apps that will avoid Apple’s walled garden entirely and you’ll either have to opt out of a popular app that all your friends are using or you’ll start to dip your toes into sideloaded apps through social pressure.
Socially engineered to download an app to a computer; connect her phone to a computer; open a terminal and execute an install command; authorize the install on the phone?What if she's socially engineered to do so?
By being talked through the process? You don’t have to know what something is to follow instructions.How can you side load and not know what it is?
That's not possible.
Lol, what? Me thinks you don’t understand what sideloading is ?Socially engineered to download an app to a computer; connect her phone to a computer; open a terminal and execute an install command; authorize the install on the phone?
That's what side loading usually look like.
What if she's socially engineered to log into her back account through Safari and transfer $$ to a bad actor? How is Apple preventing that?What if she's socially engineered to do so?
So we should stop providing some protection because we can’t provide complete protection?What if she's socially engineered to log into her back account through Safari and transfer $$ to a bad actor? How is Apple preventing that?
What if she's socially engineered to install Splashtop through the App Store and give control to a bad actor?
No. The point is that it's a silly red herring / strawman argument, to pretend that we can't have sideloading just because it might add an additional threat vector on top of the myriad of existing threat vectors that already exist, and are much easier to carry out, than trying to walk Grandma through enabling sideloading and installing malware.So we should stop providing some protection because we can’t provide complete protection?
This libertarian attitude of every man for themselves and screw everyone else needs to stop.
I wouldnt let my family use android.No. The point is that it's a silly red herring / strawman argument, to pretend that we can't have sideloading just because it might add an additional threat vector on top of the myriad of existing threat vectors that already exist, and are much easier to carry out, than trying to walk Grandma through enabling sideloading and installing malware.
Where is your bleeding heart for all of the Grandmas using Android?
The nanny state sentiment of "we know best and mama can protect you from all of the dangers in the world" is the nonsense that needs to stop.
And yet.. Android has a market share of 73%, the floodgates did not open and the world did not come to an end.I wouldnt let my family use android.
If the low bar the world did not come to an end. Sure.And yet.. Android has a market share of 73%, the floodgates did not open and the world did not come to an end.
But still has a worse malware problem than iOS. Why make it worse for no real benefit to most end users?And yet.. Android has a market share of 73%, the floodgates did not open and the world did not come to an end.
Having to struggle with android malware on my clients on a weekly basis is floodgates enough. And how does limiting the warranty help all those who have been targeted by your phone's malware and who have possibly lost tens of thousands in money?The Mac doesn’t have these issues. Sure android has malware from time to time, but are the floodgates really open? Nope. Give the users the choice and if they side load and their phone craps out, limit warranty or something.
New internet paradigm for point winning...all or nothing!
I don’t know but I suspect you are to young to know how getting old and not being able to track all of those changes and new ways of exploitation come up. Trust me it will happen to you where you think you’re doing a good job of managing it all and then you find out some organization found a clever way to exploit even you. Apple’s system is NOT perfect but it is more affective than opening the gates and expecting people to adapt and get smarter.By teaching people to use that slimy flubber thing inside their heads.
But not only inside the AppStore or Internet, because the same conventions applies to many areas of life.
Not blindly click on stuff, read things carefully, visit serious sites by entering their domain address and not by clicking one of the top10 google results.
Don’t blindly fill out forms, nor fill out flyers to take part of stupid mall tombolas, etc. Teach people to become more careful, smarter and technology affine, instead of dumb consuming zombies.
Can’t you simply go to android or jailbreak your iphone? When you change a system like that it will affect people who don’t use those options. You give your friends your information all the time. Now their side loading potential can compromise you.Okay….. but you can just not use the side load feature.
Keeping your loop closed.
What someone else installs doesn’t exactly affect you. If someone else wants to open their device up. They can.
You can choose to not side load anything.
Your comment is comically ignorant to the motivations of malicious actors who will exploit any platform. Just because your one DOS emulator is safe doesn’t mean it will remain safe or that other apps people want from side loading won’t be a point of ingress for such an attack.I reject the entire premise of your question, as the relationship between sideloading and App Store scams you are trying to create simply doesn’t exist. It’s nonsense.
Android scammers target the Play Store, not sideloaders. Why? Because that’s where the vast majority of the customers are. It would be the same on iOS.
But if you can explain to me how my loading a DOS emulator to mess around with the stuff I used to play with as a kid would make your phone less secure, by all means …
I have been an Apple customer for many years. I have 2 Macs (3 of you count a still-working 2007 MBP in my closet), an iPad, an Apple Watch … I’ve got a lot of software, apps, and purchased content.Can’t you simply go to android or jailbreak your iphone? When you change a system like that it will affect people who don’t use those options. You give your friends your information all the time. Now their side loading potential can compromise you.
Technically it’s already happening. We don’t need to make it even easier.
I don’t understand why people want Apple to make this change if they can just choose an option that already exists for them to do so.
It like being in a relationship with a hot person because they are hot but don’t like other things about their personality and tell them they need to change for your benefit. Just leave the relationship and find something that makes you happy and let them be themselves whether it’s healthy or not.