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Those qualities != CEO qualities. This is why Jobs hired Cook. Jobs knew that he’s not a CEO person, he’s a hands on product person.
It's perfectly valid for a CEO to be more of a product person, just like it's perfectly valid for them to be an operations person. You hand off all the specialties to lieutenants anyway.
 
It's perfectly valid for a CEO to be more of a product person, just like it's perfectly valid for them to be an operations person. You hand off all the specialties to lieutenants anyway.
A CEO can be a product person as well, but the qualities of a product person doesn't necessarily translate into good qualities for a CEO. Perfect example, Steve Jobs.
 
So you're telling me that it would be impossible to code equivalent software that could accomplish the same thing on the x86 architecture? Is that really where you want to go?

Or is it just maybe more likely that they didn't care to do the work considering that they are transitioning to Apple Silicon anyways.
Nail on the head.
 
Pretty much. I keep seeing people mentioning mkhbhd or something. Never heard of this guy. Couldn’t find anything written by him. So had to force myself to watch YouTube of all things for a few minutes. I don’t get it. Looks like a kid. Has no professional experience. Why would anyone take this guy, his idiot reviews or his thoughts seriously? He’s clueless. It’s a sad state to see anyone following these idiots on YouTube.
What does "has no professional experience" mean? He's been doing this for over a decade. This is his professional experience.

And no, it's not a "just drag a few video clips around and smile for the camera" job. He's a professional video producer.
 
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A CEO can be a product person as well, but the qualities of a product person doesn't necessarily translate into good qualities for a CEO. Perfect example, Steve Jobs.
Are you arguing Steve Jobs was a poor CEO? Let me tell you, people would kill to be half the manager he was.
 
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So they should code it twice? Or code it just to use the “least common denominator” hardware available in both architectures, so it runs worse (slower and consuming more power) on M1?

Maybe we should all do our jobs twice, just so nobody gets upset.
Of course they should code it twice when they are in a transition period.
 
Are you arguing Steve Jobs was a poor CEO? Let me tell you, people would kill to be half the manager he was.
People are assuming that he actually did the job of a CEO when he was a CEO. Mostly, he didn't. That's why he hired Tim Cook. It's all on the various biographies. Steve Jobs has the CEO title, but he himself admitted that he's not really interested in the job of a CEO. He's more of a hands-on product guy. Tim Cook basically did the CEO job behind the scenes.

If there were only Jobs at the helm, Apple won't be what it is today. Look at Next.
 
People are assuming that he actually did the job of a CEO when he was a CEO. Mostly, he didn't.

Again, you have a narrow idea of what "the job of a CEO" is. It's just a title.


That's why he hired Tim Cook. It's all on the various biographies. Steve Jobs has the CEO title, but he himself admitted that he's not really interested in the job of a CEO. He's more of a hands-on product guy. Tim Cook basically did the CEO job behind the scenes.

Why is "takes care of operations efficiency" inherently more valid as "CEO" than "defines the entire product roadmap"?

If there were only Jobs at the helm, Apple won't be what it is today. Look at Next.

It was never only Jobs at the helm. That's why you have folks like a CFO, and senior VPs.
 
MacRumors the website may be obsessed about the car, most of us could care less.
Why does iPad OS not deliver the ability to use the hardware released on the iPad Pro which is priced 2x the cost of a fully functioning MacBook Air when equivalently configured?

Why do you even care about the reasoning?

Either the device provides enough value for you to be worth the price, or it don't. Are you willing to pay more for an Apple device if Apple has a good reason for its price?
 
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Clearly the latter. Why spend resources on a platform that you are putting to legacy status? Make sense though.
Can easily tell you two are not developers. They are leveraging their specialised chipsets to run NEW code that specifically takes advantage of that chipset. There is no incentive to write twice (or likely much more) amount the code to approximate features that run on these chips to give users without a neural engine a WORSE experience. That is a lose lose proposition.
 
I work in the news industry in DC, and knowing Apple this is even truer: Everything is planned to a T. The youtubers are given talkers (talking points) and they must stick to those questions, or have Apple pull out of the interview and they will miss out on those sweet sweet views.

This is why every Apple interview with these noob interviewers look scripted and cringe.

Apple. Control. Who’d a thunk?
That's an industry standard. If they wanted hard questions they would host a townhall or something.
 
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Bit of a shame nobody asked any decent hardhitting questions then.
Because they are paid for doing this kind of job. Don't ask uncomfortable questions. This version of iOS can barely be called 15, it's just iOS 14 with some updated apps.
 
They should of asked him why there is no re design, split screen, interactive widgets and why iPad was just catch up from iOS 14

He’d probably respond that they’re busy with a huge project to rescue their English language from those incapable of correctly applying the word “have”.
 
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Really happy to see Krystal Lora and TechMe0ut featured! They've been killing it for years – happy to see Apple including them in this.

Krystal Lora sounds like a Breaking Bad character.
 
Then hopefully Apple is paying Craig top dollar, plus a lot more. Imagine you were the VP of software engineering, and there's a huge event about software, and then you still had to sit down with a bunch of youtubers doing PR and marketing.
I’m pretty sure Federighi is compensated quite well with a nice salary and stock options. Can’t think of a better person to hit the interview circuit after a major software release other than the person in charge of it and the fact that he’s a likeable guy is icing on the cake.
Speaking with youtubers is now part of the game, before it was exclusive interviews with WSJ and other outlets but times have changed.
 
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Bit of a shame nobody asked any decent hardhitting questions then.

This is why these "speaking tours" by Apple execs are almost always skippable.

These are media campaign marketing. they're not here for us to get information that we really want. it's there for the Apple execs to reach a large purchasing cohort through youtube influencers.

Apple always, ALWAYS has been a marketing first company and is an absolute expert at narrative control. these speaking tours aren't out of the goodness of their heart to give us technical details. but give us enough answers to be content to purchase.

I haven't fully watched these and I don't think I will. Everytime I listen to these execs speak, it's nothing but vacous platitutes and rhetoric and rarely true roadmap or interactive feedback.
 
wonder where ijustine and mkbhd are!

I don't know about iJustine. But MKBHD may not be on the top of Apple's rounds much after the last few months of his videos.

while he's been still pretty pro Apple. He still calls himself an Apple Fanboy. he's had several videos where he's called out Apple's questionably ethic business practices around the phone, and app policies. He's not been afraid to pull his comments about the look and design of the iMac and some of its questionable choices.

Apple is very draconic in controls how it's portrayed by media. it has a long history of "cutting off" those that don't repeat the exact talking points they provide in their media briefs. Over the years there have been several publications outright cut off from invitations to Apple eventss and hardware. Heck there was a period where even places like TheVerge were cut off.

MKBHD is one of the most watched and prolific influencers for youtube tech channels. For him to be skipped (when they did interviews with him in previous years), I can only guess it was intentional by Apple to not include him.
 
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Pretty much. I keep seeing people mentioning mkhbhd or something. Never heard of this guy. Couldn’t find anything written by him. So had to force myself to watch YouTube of all things for a few minutes. I don’t get it. Looks like a kid. Has no professional experience. Why would anyone take this guy, his idiot reviews or his thoughts seriously? He’s clueless. It’s a sad state to see anyone following these idiots on YouTube.

ok, welcome to the 2000's...

Youtube and youtube influencers are one of the largest marketing and media pushes that large tech companies can use and rely on to help with marketing and media.

People searchin tech reviews on youtube get these channels. MKHBD (Marquee Brownlee) has been doing this longer than virtually anyone else. if he looked like a kid in the video you watched, probably because you were watching a really early one. Where he started as a highschool kid with a webcam talking about gadgets he bought.

He's now one of the largest youtube influencers for any category. He has 14.2 million subscribers and his videos have been watched 2.6 Billion times.

I get it's not your cup of tea to sit and watch tech reviewers. But to ignore the influence they have over modern purchasing behaviour is ignorant of the world of tech and marketing in 2021.
 
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So you're telling me that it would be impossible to code equivalent software that could accomplish the same thing on the x86 architecture? Is that really where you want to go?

Or is it just maybe more likely that they didn't care to do the work considering that they are transitioning to Apple Silicon anyways.

People need to understand this about Apple developers and software. Once they no longer care to do the work, the writing is on the wall.

We have seen it a few times. Remember when they sunset certain Macs because the EUFI was 32bit instead of 64? everything else was 64bit on the machine. the CPU, architecture etc. But they still had a 32bit EUFI. They didn't need to cut out the existing software stack for that and could continue to support hose machines.

But instead they decided to just.. cut it out. Not even use the existing code. All machines with the 32bit eufi's, even if the machine was sold as "64bit", was cut off completely. All because Apple decided 1 developers time to include it in the new OS version was "too much"
 
So they should code it twice? Or code it just to use the “least common denominator” hardware available in both architectures, so it runs worse (slower and consuming more power) on M1?

Maybe we should all do our jobs twice, just so nobody gets upset.
Apple could easily afford it.

Choosingn to just cut features from certain platforms instead of hire a small team to port it, is well, Pure Apple. they made the business decision that it was likely in their better interest to withold the feature from the other hardware as a selling point to upgrade / replace.
 
Why do you even care about the reasoning?

Either the device provides enough value for you to be worth the price, or it don't. Are you willing to pay more for an Apple device if Apple has a good reason for its price?
Yes

it's called VALUE.

(which will be a different calculation for all of us)

but a product has to provide a user sufficient value for them to justify purchase. (Business 101).

if Apple is going to ask for 20-30% more for their products, but not offer compelling feature or REASON for that. than it's purely asking for it for their own pockets and greed. Which I don't need to support.

now if they're able to offer something compelling that makes me think that the price is good value for what is delivered, and justifiable due to something Apple does that someone else doesn't, than sure, i'll pay more.

But to think we should just pay more for a logo? That's just really bad blind consumerism.
 
I work in the news industry in DC, and knowing Apple this is even truer: Everything is planned to a T. The youtubers are given talkers (talking points) and they must stick to those questions, or have Apple pull out of the interview and they will miss out on those sweet sweet views.

This is why every Apple interview with these noob interviewers look scripted and cringe.

Apple. Control. Who’d a thunk?
And there you have it. Thanks for this.
 
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