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They should stop with this madness. Release ios and mac os every two years, or when you have something major. No need for this self imposed yearly cycle BS. Apple already lost to android, so no need to chase these gimmicks every year by compromising stability.
 
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I'm starting to think Apple execs are wishing they had invested billions in a Time Machine instead of an Apple Car at this point
 
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They should stop with this madness. Release ios and mac os every two years, or when you have something major. No need for this self imposed yearly cycle BS. Apple already lost to android, so no need to chase these gimmicks every year by compromising stability.
Yes I understand your point but they do it every year to coincide with the new iPhones getting released every September with the additional few software teaks for said new iPhones
 
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You're purposely misrepresenting what people are mad about because you have some kind of misplaced loyalty to a corporation.
There is more than rough over the top hyperbolic criticism to justify my comments. And it’s in your own opinion about “misplaced loyalty”.
People are mad and concerned because Apple demoed vaporware instead of working software.
Many posters are expressing faux outrage.
That's something Apple is famous for not doing and it's a huge breach of user trust
That’s why people have to have room for opinions of all types. This delay might be a breach of trust to you, it’s not for me. 🤷‍♂️
 
What compensation will Apple provide to those of us who upgraded a serviceable older iPhone to gain this iOS 18 AI capability?

This delay seems like bait and switch.
Apple needs to embrace this Ford tag line from 1988…
 

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It is time for Apple to get out of the barn yard and wash off their boots and have Cook explain how they are allocating resources to this core issue and make a public apology. Tell it like it is and if they are five years out from a useful product, tell us five years.The team that has to solve Apple's issues with AI does not get operational over a weekend. Another iPad with built in stand for the kitchen counter is not the next great thing if the rest of the product lines operating systems have programming issues.

Like at Boeing, one hopes they double and triple check that all the bolts that hold the wings on in fact in place. They had doors blow off because bolts were not in place.

At least with a three trillion market cap, the public has the impression Apple has their act together. But Boeing had that impression for the public too and we saw the trust was misplaced.

There should be a five alarm fire in the programming department and most of the attention should be on getting their act. together.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice , shame on me. Sales could falter as people buy hardware and software, not vaporware.
 
And there are critics that are also over the top with the nonsense hyperbolic verbiage.
It’s not over the top criticism when a company announces something that isn’t remotely ready in the first place & then continues with advertisements for said product even though it’s still not working correctly & yet people like yourself give them a free pass at that.
 
AirPower was also working to some extent.

If it’s working well, then they wouldn’t need to start over and rewrite entire pieces of code according to Bloomberg reports.
Re AirPower and wireless charging, I recall Phil Schiller crowing about apples competence in this area and “we know how to do this” and “we are going to share this with others”.
 
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It’s not over the top criticism when a company announces something that isn’t remotely ready in the first place &
It is over the top criticism for a delay. Have you read some of those comments? Do you agree heads should roll and Tim crook should be fired, and Apple is slowly sinking to the abyss of blackberry?
then continues with advertisements for said product even though it’s still not working correctly & yet people like yourself give them a free pass at that.
People like yourself? What kind of an insult is that?
 
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It is over the top criticism for a delay. Have you read some of those comments? Do you agree heads should roll and Tim crook should be fired, and Apple is slowly sinking to the abyss of blackberry?

People like yourself? What kind of an insult is that?
What I mean by that is no matter what mistakes this company makes you defend them to the hilt.

No I don’t think heads should roll but what I do think is software & hardware should not be getting announced until they are actually working correctly in the first place.
 
What I mean by that is no matter what mistakes this company makes you defend them to the hilt.
As it is you right to criticize what this company does.
No I don’t think heads should roll but what I do think is software & hardware should not be getting announced until they are actually working correctly in the first place.
Body works like that. Companies imo work with the expectation they will be able to get announced software working. Sometimes it doesn’t turn out like that. If apple waited there would be no wwdc.
 
As it is you right to criticize what this company does.

Body works like that. Companies imo work with the expectation they will be able to get announced software working. Sometimes it doesn’t turn out like that. If apple waited there would be no wwdc.
Again
There is nothing wrong with previewing software features at wwdc
However this was a concept video not actual functional software
There is a difference hence why it’s delayed because they can’t get it to work properly
9 months later.

The big difference is I buy apple products & can still criticize the company for mistakes that are made unlike yourself who refuses to acknowledge any mistakes the company makes
 
So, many believed the ads and bought the iPhone 16 series and other newly announced Apple gear with "AI" capability.

They all have blisters on their fingers from the hot deceptions and, being prudent, will not return soon to burn their fingers again.

Of course there are new fools born every day that have to find out for themselves and the naive ones that believe the ads.

It is time once again for a Steve Jobs type actual performance introduction show with a working product at a publicly held meeting place so there is publicly verifiable action, not just smoke and mirrors in a canned presentation.
 
Repeating myself here but... "marketing" is when you have somethign that works.... fraud and hishoensty is when you have a concept that doesn't really exist or work anywhere near what you intended.

In Apple's case, they "marketed" the benefit of purchasing specific hardware as being a product (software - Siri) that would make that device sing. Instead, where Elizabeth Holmes copied Steve Job's look, Apple coppied her demo process and "false advertising" of a product that does not do what it claims.


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This is a great example.
 
It is time once again for a Steve Jobs type actual performance introduction show with a working product at a publicly held meeting place so there is publicly verifiable action, not just smoke and mirrors in a canned presentation.
You mean like the time he demoed the original iPhone?
None of these kludges fixed the iPhone’s biggest problem: it often ran out of memory and had to be restarted if made to do more than a handful of tasks at a time. Jobs had a number of demo units onstage with him to manage this problem. If memory ran low on one, he would switch to another while the first was restarted.
 
You mean like the time he demoed the original iPhone?
None of these kludges fixed the iPhone’s biggest problem: it often ran out of memory and had to be restarted if made to do more than a handful of tasks at a time. Jobs had a number of demo units onstage with him to manage this problem. If memory ran low on one, he would switch to another while the first was restarted.
never had any issues like that with my OG iphone 2g. Loved that phone to death!
 
But at least there were multiple iPhone 1s on the stage with Steve and it worked within its limitations. It was NOT vaporware, it was hardware with operating software. It made actual phone calls and did a few other simple things. Everyone in the room could see the actual product in action.

That is a sharp contrast to this last Apple debacle like black is to white - polar opposites.
 
Again
There is nothing wrong with previewing software features at wwdc
However this was a concept video not actual functional software
There is a difference hence why it’s delayed because they can’t get it to work properly
9 months later.
I think no one knows the state of the software. I think they had some underpinnings there and were planning on getting more accomplished then they actually could.
The big difference is I buy apple products & can still criticize the company for mistakes that are made unlike yourself who refuses to acknowledge any mistakes the company makes
No, your posts are criticizing on speculation not facts.
 
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Let me highlight a sentence for you.
Jobs had a number of demo units onstage with him to manage this problem. If memory ran low on one, he would switch to another while the first was restarted.
The demo was Steve saying the iPhone is magical. The actual magic was Steve's sleight of hand tricks.
 
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You miss the important point. The actual iPhone was on the stage, not a drawing or a verbose verbalization trying to describe the iPhone.

It was in reality a functioning prototype that showed off a new world of communication. He was smart enough to have several on hand as prototypes can have issues, that is why they are called prototypes.
 
You miss the important point. The actual iPhone was on the stage, not a drawing or a verbose verbalization trying to describe the iPhone.

It was in reality a functioning prototype that showed off a new world of communication. He was smart enough to have several on hand as prototypes can have issues, that is why they are called prototypes.
There is a working prototype of personal context too. Except, it's not good enough for release. Just like the iPhone was not ready for release at the time it was demoed, even though it was presented as a finished product. The story of that demo has been known for years, you should read the entire article if you are not aware.
 
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First, You are replying to the wrong person. I never said I bought a phone based on Apples’s promise, that was the OP. I agree that it is a bad idea to buy a product on a future promise—which I said.

Second, I think you missed my point, so let me say it in a simpler way that hopefully you can understand.

Lots of people trust apple. That trust has been eroding for a while. Apple AI is eroding it faster. That is Apple’s problem.

But sure, attack me and say i don't believe in personal accountability and I want to blame people and point fingers. You know nothing about my values. You didn't even follow the conversation correctly before jumping to conclusions and being all “internet though guy”. When you think people disagree with you, do you normally resort to personal attacks? People can have different opinions, and there is nothing wrong with that.
agreed. But, sadly, I don’t think such a persuasive argument can overcome the victim blaming bias carried by some.
 
I think no one knows the state of the software. I think they had some underpinnings there and were planning on getting more accomplished then they actually could.

No, your posts are criticizing on speculation not facts.
It’s not criticism when it’s actually true that Apple show a concept video of something that didn’t actually work correctly in the first place.
 
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