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Apple's Designers Clashing Over 'Tacky' Software Skeuomorphisms
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Other examples of this:
- Tabs in Safari (and other programs and web browsers)
- Turning pages in iBooks
- Many icons on both platforms (books for bookmarks, glasses for reader, clocks for time, etc.,)
Those are examples of it done well, IMO.
Examples of it done poorly:
- Game Center (why a pool table? I'll give you that it looks cute, but it seems like a really poor design choice given how diverse games are, and how few are well represented by polished wood and green felt)
- The paper shredding or folding animations (too lengthy, distracting, just not useful. Maybe make them like the genie animation for windows going to/from the dock... allow for some way to slow them down when you feel like screwing around/enjoying the magic, and most of the time just do them quickly so the user can get onto their next task.)
- Various animations in OSX iPhoto (with the book/card/calendar making, in particular)
- Address Book, it takes up much too much screen space and gives too little space to the actual contact information.
I'm rather neutral as far as Calendar. On the iPad it looked great. On OSX, it didn't look as good but it's not bad.
- Tabs in Safari (and other programs and web browsers)
- Turning pages in iBooks
- Many icons on both platforms (books for bookmarks, glasses for reader, clocks for time, etc.,)
Those are examples of it done well, IMO.
Examples of it done poorly:
- Game Center (why a pool table? I'll give you that it looks cute, but it seems like a really poor design choice given how diverse games are, and how few are well represented by polished wood and green felt)
- The paper shredding or folding animations (too lengthy, distracting, just not useful. Maybe make them like the genie animation for windows going to/from the dock... allow for some way to slow them down when you feel like screwing around/enjoying the magic, and most of the time just do them quickly so the user can get onto their next task.)
- Various animations in OSX iPhoto (with the book/card/calendar making, in particular)
- Address Book, it takes up much too much screen space and gives too little space to the actual contact information.
I'm rather neutral as far as Calendar. On the iPad it looked great. On OSX, it didn't look as good but it's not bad.
That doesn't mean that those who buy an iPhone must love EVERYTHING about it, does it?
At last
That was something that anoyed me the recent years. Now I learned the word for it: Skeuomorphism. I understand that it gives a simple visual translation of what whatever app is good for, and from the marketing perspective it is probably an easy winner.
But hey, this is Apple - it should lead in product AND graphic design. It gets more embarrassing in contrast to the modern UI of competitors. Whatever cool productdesign the next iPhone will get, be sure it looks ugly with the graveyard of apps UI. In my opinion Apple should move on and think fast of a more mature home screen for iOS. Distasteful is the right word and this should not be a term associated with Apple. By the way: reminds me on the shirts Scott Forstall usually wears.
That was something that anoyed me the recent years. Now I learned the word for it: Skeuomorphism. I understand that it gives a simple visual translation of what whatever app is good for, and from the marketing perspective it is probably an easy winner.
But hey, this is Apple - it should lead in product AND graphic design. It gets more embarrassing in contrast to the modern UI of competitors. Whatever cool productdesign the next iPhone will get, be sure it looks ugly with the graveyard of apps UI. In my opinion Apple should move on and think fast of a more mature home screen for iOS. Distasteful is the right word and this should not be a term associated with Apple. By the way: reminds me on the shirts Scott Forstall usually wears.
"Is it necessary? Or just visual masturbation? "To me, its lipstick on a pig,"
R-O-F-L , literally!
R-O-F-L , literally!
Abondon the bs
Disaster if they go this route.
Cheap .. Tacky ... Stupid, inefficient, limiting!
What was jobs thinking!?
ababdon the bs and stick to efficient ui design that dont pretend to mimic real objects.
Ipad is not a bookshelf!
Disaster if they go this route.
Cheap .. Tacky ... Stupid, inefficient, limiting!
What was jobs thinking!?
ababdon the bs and stick to efficient ui design that dont pretend to mimic real objects.
Ipad is not a bookshelf!
Thanks for the heads-up...I was unaware! I'm just waiting for the battery fix update before I upgrade.
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Command Left/Right arrow can do the trick.
I appreciate the hot-key, but it still takes the same amount of time as a mouse click. Just sayin'
Are you serious? I bought it because I thought it was a bookshelf to replace my existing bookshelf that took half my room
Perhaps. The "UI designer" job market can't be all that great. I sincerely doubt he willingly left the company and then decided to bad-mouth Apple. If I left Apple for another company, I would not burn my bridges or hold any hard feelings; as long as I was happy with the move.
So there is internal conflict about this at Apple GOOD!!!! I'm so glad to hear this. I had assumed as much, since there is such a contrast between Ive's elegant minimalist approach to hardware design, and the increasing garishness of much of the user interface.
How the tables have turned when Microsoft can accuse Apple of having no taste! It's all a bit embarrassing really.
I don't have a problem with subtle skeuomorphisms; but what Apple designers have done in the past couple years on iOS and now some OS X applications is just tacky. They have no taste, or maybe were babies in the 1990's when such gaudy designs were fashionable during the time when most people finally had 24 or 32-bit graphics hardware on their PCs. And it makes me kinda sick because the Apple I grew up with would never allow such just plainly bad designs on flagship software like iCal.
I don't believe such heavy-handed designs really jive with Steve's predilection for Bauhaus and Zen philosophies. Of course, there were many things he did which didn't jive, but on design he was usually always money except for this. "Form follows function" should NOT be taken *literally* when you're talking about software.
I don't believe such heavy-handed designs really jive with Steve's predilection for Bauhaus and Zen philosophies. Of course, there were many things he did which didn't jive, but on design he was usually always money except for this. "Form follows function" should NOT be taken *literally* when you're talking about software.
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Yeah, me too. I like the direction they are going, what's wrong with making things look realistic. The weather app has real looking clouds and the sun, oh no!
Well done looking interface when it come to games would be Steam now that is well done and consistent look.
I like the calendar leather and torn pages, but the Game Center is the ugliest piece of software I have ever seen. It does nothing to excite me and I find it annoying to navigate. Only old people play games on felt tables.
Well...yeah...but everything you're complaining about can be fixed in literally 10 seconds. If you don't like the bright blue highlights Win7 defaults to, change it to white or grey like I do. Don't like the transparent Aero effect? Turn it off. Think the super pastel neon wallpapers suck? Get another one.
It's true OSX looks better immediately out of the box, but tweaking Windows to look the way you want it to isn't exactly difficult to achieve. Just right-click on the desktop and go to "personalize".
I believe so. It's not officially supported yet, but I think a few people down on the Windows on the Mac forum are running it.
That doesn't mean that those who buy an iPhone must love EVERYTHING about it, does it?
For some people here it probably does, sadly enough.