That's the thing, most of these people don't want to work and rather hang out a Starbucks pretending to do work.Cool. How does Starbucks make your drinks?
That's the thing, most of these people don't want to work and rather hang out a Starbucks pretending to do work.Cool. How does Starbucks make your drinks?
"We must not change one because it causes change elsewhere" seems to be what you're saying. This is what leads to people in positions of privilege adhering aggressively to the status quo.[...] I'm not disagreeing with this part. But, what does Apple do with the empty space? And not just Apple. All other companies? What happens to the service industry that has to go to work? They can't operate with so many fewer people going to offices. That affects them the most. Less people working in a city, means less cabs, Uber's, fast food, bars, restaurants and so on. A 10% hit in people not coming to work would be a hit to all those other businesses. And they can't work from home. [...]
You were willing to admit yours is an opinion, and then say "it works well for some but not for all" in your first paragraph, but then you swung around to make a personal attack on those who prefer it in your last paragraph. ? People like you, attacking workers for articles they had no hand in writing, are the ones "creating drama".We have been working from home since 2019. I would rather be in the office. There is a great deal missed by having such fragmentation of people, in my opinion. It works well for some but not for all.
Also living in a place where home prices have gone up nearly 40% in the last two years because of Bay Area people moving here for remote work at not-area-wages has caused a great deal of stress in the community.
A hybrid workweek seems very reasonable and it’s petulant and whiny to make a “stand” about it. Just move on without creating drama.
Uh... Would you be supportive of this guy quitting over this if he DIDN'T have the luxury of doing it? Would his effort to choose the work-life balance best for him be not a "high horse" if he was paid less?A mixture of remote and in-office work is reasonable. That is what my company is doing and I have no objection. There are pros and cons to both.
I also don’t think that having one of their senior people quitting over this is very helpful to working towards something that can be sustained and accepted by their workforce. He can afford to get on his high horse and quit over something like this. Most workers do not have that luxury.
Someone citing "objectivity", while behaving with an "in my world, your good is my evil" sort of way is... almost amusing.Yeah, because defending an objectively out-of-touch man presenting an objectively out-of-touch position somehow makes one not out-of-touch. But whatever makes you feel better! ❤️
If the work is actually getting done on time who cares? Is Apple concerned that the next iPhone comes out in September or that Nancy went to pick up her kid from school for twenty minutes?Because they want you back in the office instead of taking numerous breaks? Slacking off? Running and doing errands while on the clock?
"These days", "AI" is an abused term. It's merely a buzzword for anything & everything with an algorithm involved. If "AI research is in trouble", I haven't noticed, because ACTUAL AI doesn't exist.Isn't AI research in trouble these days? It seems like a good time to jump ship and go somewhere to hide from the fallout of hyping AI as a series of easy-to-monetize schemes.
We were hoping to see a lot more machine learning with AI but where is it? How about Siri, on iPadOS it currently breaks up Silicon Valley zip codes for weather into locations instead of the city they are suppose to represent. MacOS its fine.
The company I work for had similar plans as Apple, starting to go back to the office for a couple of days per week. However, partly to stay competitive when it comes to hiring, the company has been somewhat forced to now instead adopt a full time work from home/anywhere (in the country where you are employed) policy if you want.Apple will lose top talent to competitors because of this.
Plenty of people who work for "product companies" do work from home, and have done so in the long term. Your statement of fact is actually a statement of subjective opinion.If you work for a product company, there’s no way to work from home in a long term. I don’t see why Apple should tolerate this kind of blackmailing, if people don’t want to work, they should be free to go.
Apple's secrecy works against its own goals. Trade secrets have always been stolen; covid19 and work-from-home is just another change in the world that employers will have to adapt to. Authoritarianism is not the solution to any of this.I just don’t know how viable a company like Apple can have certain departs work from home. Especially with all the secrecy that’s involved. Leaks are bad now, and trade secrets are being stolen. I don’t know what solution they can come up with.
Why does he need to respect his employer? This is about an exchange of labour.This guy has no respect for his employer. Must be nice to have the luxury to piss all over your employer and "protest". Good Luck finding a new job when your image is now, "My Feelings First". There are many more like him to choose from that would be more than happy to get back working as a team in person to get projects done. Unbelievable how entitled this culture thinks it is. Look at his picture, screams Entitled Woke Child 2.0. He made his choice, good luck finding a new job with your new reputation. Bozo.
lol - in the UK it’s a legal requirement to take a ten minute screen break every hour. Our resident Fox News zealots are probably calling us snowflakes for not wanting image burn on our retinas.If the work is actually getting done on time who cares? Is Apple concerned that the next iPhone comes out in September or that Nancy went to pick up her kid from school for twenty minutes?
I cited statistics from a reputable sourceThe cheapest developer we have in India on my team is paid over $100k. Sound more like your company is a developer sweatshop rather than teams of highly qualified engineers.
These people make me laugh. We’ve had 2 years of people working from home and they’ve become lazy and spoiled. Before Covid no one even thought of it. Recess is over. Get up, get dressed, commute to work and do your job. Lunch is 45 mins with two 10 min breaks at 10 and 2:30. And no, you can’t watch judge Judy at your desk.
Apple's director of machine learning, Ian Goodfellow, has resigned from his role a little over four years after he joined the company after previously being one of Google's top AI employees, according to The Verge's Zoë Schiffer.
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Goodfellow reportedly broke the news to staff in an email, saying his resignation is in part due to Apple's plan to return to in-person work, which required employees to work from the office at least one day per week by April 11, at least two days per week by May 2, and at least three days per week by May 23. "I believe strongly that more flexibility would have been the best policy for my team," Goodfellow said in the email.
Apple employees began returning to Apple Park last month, with the three-day in-office work policy being enacted on May 23. Some employees have been unhappy about the plan to return to in-person work.
In a letter to Apple CEO Tim Cook during the summer, a group of employees said "Without the inclusivity that flexibility brings, many of us feel we have to choose between either a combination of our families, our well-being, and being empowered to do our best work, or being a part of Apple. This is a decision none of us take lightly, and a decision many would prefer not to have to make."
Article Link: Apple's Director of Machine Learning Resigns Due to Return to Office Work
It is clear there has been a huge productivity drop across so many sectors with working at home. It’s a tough trade off but most people will be returning to work because they are just not getting enough done.
It actually takes nothing to sue large corporations. If there is a wide reported complaint, then lawyers gang up and file a class action lawsuit. At the end, large corporations settle out of court to avoid PR problems, the lawyers take a big cut and the customers/employees who were the plaintiffs of the lawsuit get very little. The lawyers incur all costs and take most of the settlement money. This has happened several times against Apple, recently with the lawsuit for App Store 30% cut. Lawyers are constantly looking for this opportunity cause they make millions this way.
I cited statistics from a reputable source
maybe your company is paying 5 times above market price, but it doesn’t seems to be the norm
This guy has no respect for his employer. Must be nice to have the luxury to piss all over your employer and "protest". Good Luck finding a new job when your image is now, "My Feelings First". There are many more like him to choose from that would be more than happy to get back working as a team in person to get projects done. Unbelievable how entitled this culture thinks it is. Look at his picture, screams Entitled Woke Child 2.0. He made his choice, good luck finding a new job with your new reputation. Bozo.
If someone is underperforming that should be noticeable whether they work from the office, their home, the moon, or sat right next to the CEO. Makes no difference where they are, it’s what they do that counts.You're not a marriage counselor to work from home. You work at a company that builds products, some are life-changing products, products that require maximum focus, productivity, discipline, quality check, again and again. At-home productivity will never equal at-work productivity. At-home discipline will never equal at-school discipline.
Just like you'd never be comfortable with a home-schooled heart surgeon; or get on a rocket built by engineers who worked from home.
Anyway, that said, good riddance to him. There are no irreplaceable people.
He’ll get a new job with a 10% higher pay minimum. This is normal for IT. In our industry we hold all the cards when negotiating, not some company.
You get what you pay for man. Your typical "senior" developer that's 1/5 the price isn't doing the same quality of work as a typical actual senior developer. I've worked with firms that go bargain binning for extremely cheap "senior" offshore devs. Sometimes you get lucky and a guy is mid-level in practice. Usually they don't even know the basics.Mmmmm… this is only true for the pinnacle, but a senior developer in India is (at least) 5x cheaper than in Europe. And Europe can be up to 3x cheaper than US.