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Many of you have room mates, or live in environments that are not compatible with work from home. We cannot have a caste system built around your home environment. All of you deserve to be treated equally, and that means that you are all returning to office work whether you want it or not. Even those of you who have been told work from home would be permanent. It isn't. Hope you didn't move far way, because you will need to look for a new job, which will also not be work from home. Fair is fair.
 
You're comparing unlike jobs and using the disparity to attack the character of a person you know next to nothing about.

It's actually possible to support the agency of grocery store clerks, baristas, dentists, auto mechanics, etc. AND to support this guy's right to negotiate with his employer, and leave the job if said negotiations fail to provide the working parameters he wishes to have.
I fully support this guy's right to do whatever he wishes, regarding employment.
 
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Many of you have room mates, or live in environments that are not compatible with work from home. We cannot have a caste system built around your home environment. All of you deserve to be treated equally, and that means that you are all returning to office work whether you want it or not. Even those of you who have been told work from home would be permanent. It isn't. Hope you didn't move far way, because you will need to look for a new job, which will also not be work from home. Fair is fair.

Corporations are castes systems in so many ways. What's one more?
 
Because they want you back in the office instead of taking numerous breaks? Slacking off? Running and doing errands while on the clock?
This wasn’t an issue before? I know plenty of people that were worse with non-availability in office because they’d just walk out the front door ant attend any one of the hundreds of places looking to entertain people mid-day. I've spent almost my entire career in the Chicago Loop and I've never seen a single shop out here that didn't have a culture around mid day social gatherings.

You could make the argument that the slacking off often happened in groups with your coworkers, boosting work morale, increasing the quality of what you're putting out. But saying people don't slack or dissapear on campus is laughable.
 
This wasn’t an issue before? I know plenty of people that were worse with non-availability in office because they’d just walk out the front door ant attend any one of the hundreds of places looking to entertain people mid-day. I've spent almost my entire career in the Chicago Loop and I've never seen a single shop out here that didn't have a culture around mid day social gatherings.

You could make the argument that the slacking off often happened in groups with your coworkers, boosting work morale, increasing the quality of what you're putting out. But saying people don't slack or dissapear on campus is laughable.

Google in Cambridge, MA has a huge, oval Bar in a large room in their workplace. I didn't see any tables in there when I visited but I don't think that it's a place where you work.
 
If apple wants to go full progressive they should create apartments around their campus and allow their workers to live there at affordable rents. Then those who are overpaid and can complain about having to come into the office can go exercise their options somewhere else and Apple can hire just as talented people who would be grateful not to take hours to commute to their job.
 
Absolutely no reason for anyone to work in the office. Zoom/Teams is perfectly fine, and likely more efficient than being in an office. I mean, you at least save the hour or 2 you waste commuting every day.
Completely agree. Don't understand the angry faces you are getting though? If like you somehow ate someone's lunch. Come on angry faces get a life.
 
I'm all for remote working but I have to say that big sir and Monterey have been the buggiest OS releases in my experience in all the 30+ years of using macs. Not sure is there's causation there...
Not as bad as Snow Leopard deleting all my data (which is why I never store anything but apps on my internal drive anymore). Not as bad as Catalina kernel panicing 4 times every day.
 
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Here's what I've learned via 20 years of climbing the corporate ladder: Those in the C-suite are, by and large, men with stay-at-home wives/partners. They have the means to live within proximity to the office, and they don't have to worry about the kids, the car maintenance, the gardeners, the dry cleaning, or any of the other 1,000 little things that can only be dealt with from 9:00-17:00.

Meanwhile, the minions deal with 1+ hours of commuting (each way) while juggling the duties associated with running a household. Add the brilliance of the "open office," and you have a large swath of the technologically-oriented workforce that is more productive working within a more flexible framework.

The benefit to the company is that they have more productive employees, and they shift the expense of office space onto the employees without any increase in compensation. The wrinkle in that is if you've just spent a small fortune building a new HQ and feel obligated to have it stuffed to the gills with people.

Bottom line - competition is the heart of capitalism. It applies not just to what you sell but also to how you develop it.
 
Ah I knew this comment section would be a dumpster fire, I am not disappointed.

I've worked from home for 12 years now (a little break in between there where I worked in person, no biggie). I love it. Some people hate it and can't handle it, that's fine, but getting in the way of those who can make it work and do well with it is just silly. People just need to relax, but they're too busy telling everyone else what to do because their ego can't handle that someone else enjoys something they don't. Android vs iOS. Apple vs everyone else, etc, etc, etc.

Glad this guy found something else, good for him.
 
Bottom line - competition is the heart of capitalism. It applies not just to what you sell but also to how you develop it.
I agree. In the long run, this is a kind of a self-curing problem. Employers have to compete for competent staff, so WFH might be an important option to offer. Office space is incredibly expensive, especially in high tech areas, so finding ways to reduce overhead can be a big competitive advantage. Allowing flexibility in WFH can reduce relocation expenses and compensation for high cost of living areas. We are going through a transition now, but I think the market will drive behavior and find some balance in WFH options.
 
I agree. In the long run, this is a kind of a self-curing problem. Employers have to compete for competent staff, so WFH might be an important option to offer. Office space is incredibly expensive, especially in high tech areas, so finding ways to reduce overhead can be a big competitive advantage. Allowing flexibility in WFH can reduce relocation expenses and compensation for high cost of living areas. We are going through a transition now, but I think the market will drive behavior and find some balance in WFH options.

One other approach that my former company has taken is to open or buy out satellite offices in areas where real estate costs are low. You sacrifice career advancement potential for quality of life. Many employees with kids looking for suburban schools and lower-cost housing may jump at the opportunity. You get a large potential for home price appreciation too.
 
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Huge loss for Apple? Maybe, maybe not… but it’s a huge gain for HomePod owners. Siri on the HomePod with HomeKit is an absolute train wreck on iOS 15.

Either the Apple employees don’t use the garbage they’ve been putting out or they don’t care so I’ll hold the director of this garbage responsible. Should’ve been fired.

With over $4K spent on HomePods alone, plus thousands more on HomeKit accessories, I was promised seamless voice control using Siri. It’s been nothing but an irritating and frustrating nightmare.

He can work from home checking the classifieds all day for all I care. Not a coincidence Siri got substantially worse on the HomePod with iOS 15 during WFH.
 
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Huge loss for Apple? Maybe, maybe not… but it’s a huge gain for HomePod owners. Siri on the HomePod with HomeKit is an absolute train wreck on iOS 15.

Either the Apple employees don’t use the garbage they’ve been putting out or they don’t care so I’ll hold the director of this garbage responsible. Should’ve been fired.

With over $4K spent on HomePods alone, plus thousands more on HomeKit accessories, I was promised seamless voice control using Siri. It’s been nothing but an irritating and frustrating nightmare.

He can work from home checking the classifieds all day for all I care. Not a coincidence Siri got substantially worse on the HomePod with iOS 15 during WFH.

You seriously have no clue who this guy is, what he does or what he has accomplished.

Read his university textbook on Deep Learning, MIT Press, if you have the math background for an idea of the kinds of things that he does.
 
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Huge loss for Apple? Maybe, maybe not… but it’s a huge gain for HomePod owners. Siri on the HomePod with HomeKit is an absolute train wreck on iOS 15.

Either the Apple employees don’t use the garbage they’ve been putting out or they don’t care so I’ll hold the director of this garbage responsible. Should’ve been fired.

With over $4K spent on HomePods alone, plus thousands more on HomeKit accessories, I was promised seamless voice control using Siri. It’s been nothing but an irritating and frustrating nightmare.

He can work from home checking the classifieds all day for all I care. Not a coincidence Siri got substantially worse on the HomePod with iOS 15 during WFH.

Or it could be that ML is extremely hard and there are other factors at play.

Do you know why Google is so good at ML? Because they don't care about data collection, they were collecting data from every possible source for years and years. Apple does not do this, they limit their data collection policies and that will always hamper those efforts because the data set simply isn't as refined or as large as other companies.

Siri has always been a mess, so I am unsure of why you would spend such money on a promise.
 
You might want to learn more about the employee, or former employee, in this article you're commenting on. As another person stated: this guy is a rock star and probably has the option to do whatever he wants.

It's not entitlement; it's privilege. But hey, since you're throwing "young people" after "entitled", I guess you're probably just being ageist, while predicting the future (from your perspective of what's been "normal" in your working life)... so I'm not sure why I'm bothering to respond...
You're responding because that is what you do. The way you will respond when you are directed to return to the office. There are few rock stars. I doubt you are one of them. Punch the clock, or its the Uber Driver life for you.
 
Huge loss for Apple? Maybe, maybe not… but it’s a huge gain for HomePod owners. Siri on the HomePod with HomeKit is an absolute train wreck on iOS 15.

Either the Apple employees don’t use the garbage they’ve been putting out or they don’t care so I’ll hold the director of this garbage responsible. Should’ve been fired.

With over $4K spent on HomePods alone, plus thousands more on HomeKit accessories, I was promised seamless voice control using Siri. It’s been nothing but an irritating and frustrating nightmare.

He can work from home checking the classifieds all day for all I care. Not a coincidence Siri got substantially worse on the HomePod with iOS 15 during WFH.

I must have missed the meeting where all of you collectively decided to conflate Machine Learning with Siri.

Reading posts like these is like hearing your mother call your Playstation a Nintendo.
 
Some countries have quite strict limitations to what can be considered a contractor vs. an employee and will force a company to provide employee benefits to "contractors" if these limitations are not respected.

In general, the whole contractor vs. employee play can happen regardless of remote working conditions: there is plenty of contractors able to offer services on-site in most situations.

What is definitely true is that IMHO remote working is going to be more and more relevant, so a young professional has to take it into account when planning their career in the long-term.
That is not going to happen. Quite the reverse actually. Additionally, this is becoming a Republican/Democrat thing, where Republican owned companies are forbidding work from home. If you are in a blue state, you may have more time. Red States employees are probably not replying right now because they are at work.WFH is over, and fighting against it will screw you.
 
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