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Anyone who referred to that feature as a gimmick should now eat their words with a healthy side of shut up.
And all the people who say it’s a PR stunt every time this feature saves lives.

Too many people on this board mistake cynicism for intelligence.

Even one saved life makes this feature incredibly valuable, and I’m glad it’s there for the sake of these people, even if I’ll never use it.

But hey, Apple should invest their development resources into letting us customise icons amirite????
 
If you rescue someone here in Germany and that will cost you money, you will get every cent back. Usually from the insurance of the victim. For example someone might be bleeding heavily any you have to use your shirt to stop the bleeding, which will likely ruin the shirt. Then you will of course get a new shirt for free. Or a more extreme example: You use your car to stop another car, where the breaks no longer work. Then of course you will not have to pay for the repair of your car. I think in the US that is not much different.
 
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Or a more extreme example: You use your car to stop another car, where the breaks no longer work. Then of course you will not have to pay for the repair of your car. I think in the US that is not much different.
How did you even come up with this scenario?))) How would you detect the nonworking breaks from your car?)))
 
I was a little bit skeptical (although hopeful) when they first announced this feature because I wasn't sure how well it was actually going to work in practice. However, it really seems that Apple has done a decent job on it from what I've been hearing. Very glad it's been able to save lives, it's a great thing that they've been able to implement it across their entire iPhone lineup.
 
Except I'm certain it will cost Apple more than 99 cents per month.

Yup. Apple agreed to pay 95% of the costs for launching new Globalstar satellites and building out the infrastructure. And so far that's amounted to around a half billion dollars.

Still, many people will never be pleased, always needing an opportunity to take a swing at Apple in order to feel better.
 
I think (hope) they will keep emergency exchanges free, and then just charge for those who want to use it to replace a Garmin inreach or other satellite communication device while hiking/traveling/exploring (happy to hike with one less device - but the in reach isn't exactly bulky).

Basically those using it for hiking, sailing, etc. would subsidize it for all the emergency uses.
 
Yup. Apple agreed to pay 95% of the costs for launching new Globalstar satellites and building out the infrastructure. And so far that's amounted to around a half billion dollars.

Still, many people will never be pleased, always needing an opportunity to take a swing at Apple in order to feel better.
Yea, I can agree with this. People have a right to their opinions, but it's always good to be objective about them.

I love Apple and their products. I don't agree with every single decision they've ever made, but by and large, I think they are a very pro-consumer company that does care about their customers (and they do take pride in what they do)
 
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This is so rad. Horrible to hear about the tragic events, but nice to have a silver lining here and there. I wonder about the dynamic of asking people to pay for something that might save their lives after the free Satellite SOS period runs out though. I'm curious if Apple just decides to keep it free with a little accounting voodoo, similar to how they changed future macOS updates to free a number of years ago.
Whatever fee might be rolled into Apple Services, perhaps $.99 a month should get most people to continue. Or available when needed with a $500+ fee for the one time use…
 
Agreed! In addition, Apple needs to make the Emergency SOS feature FREE forever.

Maybe not free forever, but maybe free in regions of devastation, much like mobile providers and social networks do during hurricanes and typhoons. It would easy for them to track who gets free service by way of their recorded GPS location.
 
I spent a year on my motorcycle touring North and Central America. I had a garmin gps device and paid a subscription for an emergency messaging service.

Should Garmin have given that to me for free?

The problem with charging a subscription fee for an emergency service is you never know when you might need it. Imagine someone declining to pay just to save a few bucks and then needing the service.
 
Yes, absolutely — if they also gave you a time machine — go back and demand it!
Apple is going to continue contributing $$$ annually to this service. I believe they are entitled to charge for it eventually. I pay between $6-$16 monthly for 4 streaming services that enhance my life — I would be willing to pay that much for an emergency service that can save my life.

It is not free for Apple. They invested initially $400+ million into Globalstar so they could improve the infrastructure that makes the SOS service possible, “… to increase reliability and coverage, these new antennas were installed in all Globalstar worldwide ground stations, including new ground stations in Nevada and Hawaii, …” ( https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022...llite-made-possible-by-450m-apple-investment/ )
 
I would think if Apple were to charge it wouldn't be a subscription that blocks it, but some kind of pay per use retroactively. Imagine being with someone and getting stranded... you pay for the subscription and they dont. Your phone breaks in the situation and now your companion has the only working phone and doesn't subscribe... It's an imperfect example but one would think Apple would want to allow access in an emergency.
 
Imagine a car had additional (non-mandatory) airbags, but they would only engage during an accident, if the buyer has unlocked them for an extra fee. It would be different, if those airbags would only be built into the more expensive cars, but once they are in a car, they should work. That is the analogy to the iPhone, which could rescue its owner, but does not.
That analogy isn't quite right. Cars have safety features because they are inherently dangerous to operate. Your phone, on the other hand, isn't putting you in danger just by using it. Sure... using the phone can make other situations more dangerous but so can alcohol. And alcohol won't help you either, even the premium stuff.
 
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Apple is going to continue contributing $$$ annually to this service. I believe they are entitled to charge for it eventually. I pay between $6-$16 monthly for 4 streaming services that enhance my life — I would be willing to pay that much for an emergency service that can save my life.

It is not free for Apple. They invested initially $400+ million into Globalstar so they could improve the infrastructure that makes the SOS service possible, “… to increase reliability and coverage, these new antennas were installed in all Globalstar worldwide ground stations, including new ground stations in Nevada and Hawaii, …” ( https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022...llite-made-possible-by-450m-apple-investment/ )
Yea... no, you're talking about streaming services, which won't save or take your life (unless there's something very special about you...)

Just fast forward to the first time someone doesn't get rescued because they didn't opt in for this feature, all the backlash Apple's going to get — just isn't worth it, imho.
 
That analogy isn't quite right. Cars have safety features because they are inherently dangerous to operate. Your phone, on the other hand, isn't putting you in danger just by using it. Sure... using the phone can make other situations more dangerous but so can alcohol. And alcohol won't help you either, even the premium stuff.
That analogy isn't quite right. Alcohol doesn't have satellite capabilities, even absinthe.
 
I think the people who are saying "FREE" are caught thinking "911 is free, so this should be free too!" without an understanding of what is actually required to run this system.

In addition to a subscription fee, I think Apple will be obligated to provide "Rescue Insurance." Garmin charges $40/year for $100,000 of coverage for things like Helicopters all over the world.
Apple does not provide rescue insurance. A simple Google search could provide this information.

Adjacent but not completely relevant info here, rescues in national parks are “free” to the person being rescued in most situations.
 
I don't understand people who think this feature is fear mongering tactic of Apple to sell more phones. Seriously?

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