I love the idea, but I can’t imagine there’s enough room on the watch for a satellite antenna. Perhaps if they used fixed Watch Bands with the antenna inside? 🤷
I love the idea, but I can’t imagine there’s enough room on the watch for a satellite antenna. Perhaps if they used fixed Watch Bands with the antenna inside? 🤷
I'm a human. I have a soul. That philosophy is what saw a young college art student buy into Apple in the 90s. In the end, I'm not sure that played much of an actual role in Apple joining the T party. From my perspective (which is also oversimplifying), that evolution is much less about Apple and almost entirely about The System - which, unfortunately, is working exactly as designed (stupid shareholders). Capitalism blows.
I don’t see anyone bashing the car companies for charging for emergency services. You need a plan for their automatic crash detectionSo Apple still wants to charge money for that service? Imagine the PR disaster, if someone is not rescued, because he did not have a subscription. Emergency calls have traditionally always been free in all networks. Do it would be very unfortunate if the iPhone could technically reach the satellite, but will rather let the iPhone owner die, because he did not buy a subscription. That could even be illegal in the EU.
It's a matter of image. Someone dying because Apple says "You didn't pay up" would not look good. My impression is that Apple will find some way of making this free or maybe 99p a month. And keeping it free would be a good selling point.I don’t see anyone bashing the car companies for charging for emergency services. You need a plan for their automatic crash detection
People are smarter than that to go off in a direction of throwing the blame on apple instead of understanding that life’s choices are personal responsibility.It's a matter of image. Someone dying because Apple says "You didn't pay up" would not look good.
We dont really know what apple will or won’t do at this price.My impression is that Apple will find some way of making this free or maybe 99p a month. And keeping it free would be a good selling point.
For sure. But half the fun in this forum is speculating about what pple will or won't do. More hopes than facts.We dont really know what apple will or won’t do at this price.
It's a matter of image. Someone dying because Apple says "You didn't pay up" would not look good.
My impression is that Apple will find some way of making this free or maybe 99p a month. And keeping it free would be a good selling point.
This is more an issue of PR than economics. Apple could easily fold the cost of the service into any number of incomes, from the cost of the phone to the cost of add-on services. Satellite SOS will be one of those features, like fall detection, that most people aren't aware of. So Apple should just give it away. The cost is (comparatively) minimal and the PR is good. I can already imagine the commercials they could write.Some people will no doubt argue it was Apple's fault since they didn't continue to give away the service. To me, if Apple were to charge, it's the same as what automakers do with their emergency services. if you choose not to subscribe, that's fine and yo accept the risk.
If I were Apple, I'd simply estimate the annual costs and raise the worldwide price of iPhones to cover it and build up some additional cash to cover unexpected costs.
Other options would be to add it the AppleCare+ or as part of the services bundle to help drive AppleCare+ or services uptake.
How would they get paid if it was free forever?People are suggesting that users of the system get billed after the fact. A good idea but if the system is not in regular use, how do the people that run the system get paid? money needs to be constantly coming in to be able to pay the wages of those who run and oversee the system.
So, what evidence do you have that providing an emergency service that is initially available for free (but charged later if a person can afford to pay) would overwhelm the infrastructure? First, infrastructure can be enhanced through both private an public investment. Second, this would be emergency use only - I assume that using any publicly funded satellite emergency service frivolously would be illegal and subject to fines. Moreover, it would be simple programming to block use of a public emergency satellite system if the cellular network was available. How would the occasional emergency call swamp the system?Again, I'll say, the "it should be free" arguments exist outside of reality. Too much misinformation and lack of understanding rampant on this thread to untangle it all right now.
And the "just fold it into the cost of the phone" is not an argument that it should be free. That is not "free." But, as I've pointed out previously, the number of phones that exist over time that would then need to be accounted for in the system is on a scale of magnitudes greater than the current infrastructure could reasonably handle.
"Apple sucks!" crowd and the "government rules" crowd simply don't understand the issues here.
At the end of the day, I probably wouldn't mind and I never go off the grid. But you never know. After hurricane Sandy my neighborhood lost power for 4 days, meaning no cell service and no internet.I'll bet the people who got saved wouldn't mind paying $99 a year for this service.
I can just imagine the scenario of Apple providing satellite SOS for free and raising the cost of the iPhones $99. There would be more backlash from that than some hypothetical, as yet not happened , situation where someone allegedly dies because they chose not to renew their satellite subscription.This is more an issue of PR than economics. Apple could easily fold the cost of the service into any number of incomes, from the cost of the phone to the cost of add-on services. Satellite SOS will be one of those features, like fall detection, that most people aren't aware of. So Apple should just give it away. The cost is (comparatively) minimal and the PR is good. I can already imagine the commercials they could write.
Or Apple could just eat the cost. Or get back the wholesale cost of the system from somewhere else. I just think it would be good PR.I can just imagine the scenario of Apple providing satellite SOS for free and raising the cost of the iPhones $99. There would be more backlash from that than some hypothetical, as yet not happened , situation where someone allegedly dies because they chose not to renew their satellite subscription.
Apple spend money out of pocket to make this happen. While it’s within the realm of possibility, my guess is they are not eating the cost as they don’t need the good PR. Apple being at 2-3T says all that has to be said about PR.Or Apple could just eat the cost. Or get back the wholesale cost of the system from somewhere else. I just think it would be good PR.
For all new cars in the EU that even is mandatory. If you disable it, you are not allowed to use the car.I don’t see anyone bashing the car companies for charging for emergency services. You need a plan for their automatic crash detection
So the government should pay for car insurance? Most states require drivers to be insured.I also think that if government requires a service they should reimburse private companies for the service provided.
Reasonable but not practical, I’m afraid. Governments usually offload costs to consumers.Let me rephrase, if government requires the service private companies should be allowed to charge users for the service or, if they are not allowed to charge users, then government should reimburse.
Let me rephrase, if government requires the service private companies should be allowed to charge users for the service or, if they are not allowed to charge users, then government should reimburse.
I'm OK with that.Some people will no doubt argue it was Apple's fault since they didn't continue to give away the service. To me, if Apple were to charge, it's the same as what automakers do with their emergency services. if you choose not to subscribe, that's fine and yo accept the risk.
People will balk at that. While it differentiates them from the competition, which offers nothing AFAIK similar to this. Any price hikes that are deemed too high will bring bad press IMHO. Since you could have to support that feature for say 5 or more years per device. Could be too costly to pass on to everyone buying an iPhone.If I were Apple, I'd simply estimate the annual costs and raise the worldwide price of iPhones to cover it and build up some additional cash to cover unexpected costs.
I like this idea. It ties it to a time limit for the service. And at a price point that you can choose to pay for if you want it. Plus Apple usually provides 90 days free. So the sticker shock could be postponed when making a new iPhone purchase. I'd imagine at least $25 for this. Since it should be a rare occurrence to need to use it. An additional $50 max for the 3 years of AppleCare+ on any device that supports SAT communication.Other options would be to add it the AppleCare+ or as part of the services bundle to help drive AppleCare+ or services uptake.
People will balk at that. While it differentiates them from the competition, which offers nothing AFAIK similar to this. Any price hikes that are deemed too high will bring bad press IMHO. Since you could have to support that feature for say 5 or more years per device. Could be too costly to pass on to everyone buying an iPhone.
I like this idea. It ties it to a time limit for the service. And at a price point that you can choose to pay for if you want it. Plus Apple usually provides 90 days free. So the sticker shock could be postponed when making a new iPhone purchase. I'd imagine at least $25 for this. Since it should be a rare occurrence to need to use it. An additional $50 max for the 3 years of AppleCare+ on any device that supports SAT communication.
We don't really know the cost. Your $99 may be wildly inflated. I'm in the camp of just making it an included service and make for some good PR.Sure, that's one approach.
But why should those who don't need the service pay for the service? As others have said, it is important that the iPhone remains competitive with other phones that aren't offering this ongoing (year after year after year) service on their phones. Imagine that service actually costs Apple $99/year. After 5 years, that would have cost Apple $495 on the phone. Can you name me one other ongoing service fee that Apple provides on the phone without charging?
My guess is that most economists would say that for ongoing service fees, for a product that isn't universally needed, the best option is to charge a monthly fee to those users who need it.
Amortization is generally used for items that have a fixed cost but increase in value over time. Services aren't generally thought of as something that is amortized.
But why should those who don't need the service pay for the service?
As others have said, it is important that the iPhone remains competitive with other phones that aren't offering this ongoing (year after year after year) service on their phones. Imagine that service actually costs Apple $99/year. After 5 years, that would have cost Apple $495 on the phone. Can you name me one other ongoing service fee that Apple provides on the phone without charging?
My guess is that most economists would say that for ongoing service fees, for a product that isn't universally needed, the best option is to charge a monthly fee to those users who need it.
Amortization is generally used for items that have a fixed cost but increase in value over time.
Services aren't generally thought of as something that is amortized.