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Apple's Evidence in Samsung Tablet Case Reportedly Flawed
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What he and others are saying is that it would be in any case highly irregular for Apple to even conceive of doing something like that under SJ's watch.
Frankly, it seems an incredibly ridiculous allegation, and I don't believe a word of it. Neither should you.
Even if Apple *were* trying to mislead a court - which is in serious doubt if you're able to think rationally - I sure hope they could have come up with something better than photoshopped pics. This is amateur stuff. Anyone would know (especially Apple) that this sort of thing would easily come to light sooner rather than later.
Man, your sig line is my ringtone! Long lost brothers perhaps, lol! As for your comment. Agreed.
Whats with the "Asian" thing being used. Plagiarism has nothing to with where the company is from and secondly Galaxy Tab 10.1 does not look like an iPad. Must be blind to tell that its a rip off.
I seriously doubt that Apple's German lawyers would knowingly participate in the falsification of evidence. (If you knew any German commercial lawyers you'd understand how absurd the concept is..)
Secondly, the fact that a German reseller is selling the Galaxy using the exact same proportions tells me it was SAMSUNG that is guilty of fraud.
hmm, really, go and ask people on here if they want A iMac running iOS, see what they say.... otherwise you are stating Apple will stop making computers all together.
Samsung is having you all on
http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/samsung-pleaded-unsuccessfully-against.html
Not only does it appear that Samsung knew this injunction was coming, it also appears that they had their chance to argue unsuccessfully in the German courts to block it.
Additionally, it looks like Apple's filing contained a number of images detailing various aspects of how the GalTab was infringing. It sounds like this one image has been cherry picked, and has been combined with Samsungs "poor ol' us" song in an effort to damage Apple in the public's eye. Seems like Samsung is on weak ground, and knows it.
Samsung is in the race to the bottom against one of the only companies today who are on a climb to the top.
In other words, Samsung swings and missesagain.
http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/samsung-pleaded-unsuccessfully-against.html
Not only does it appear that Samsung knew this injunction was coming, it also appears that they had their chance to argue unsuccessfully in the German courts to block it.
Additionally, it looks like Apple's filing contained a number of images detailing various aspects of how the GalTab was infringing. It sounds like this one image has been cherry picked, and has been combined with Samsungs "poor ol' us" song in an effort to damage Apple in the public's eye. Seems like Samsung is on weak ground, and knows it.
Samsung is in the race to the bottom against one of the only companies today who are on a climb to the top.
In other words, Samsung swings and missesagain.
What evidence do you have it ws doctored? Do you grasp the context those photos were displayed in?
The most misrepresentative photo in all these story's is the portrait mode galaxy tab showing the landscape screen. Strange how none of you question wonderwelds motives...
I'll wait to hear all the facts but. I wouldn't put it past Apples lawyers or any other companies for that matter.
Everyone remembers when your accused of a crime. But no one remembers when your found innocent. Could be bad news for Samsung
Everyone remembers when your accused of a crime. But no one remembers when your found innocent. Could be bad news for Samsung
Oh LTD - the day I take advice from you on what I should and should not believe as it pertains to Apple will be the coldest day in hell. Believe me.
Cry me a river, this was a weak case from the begining now Apples supef lawyers look stupid now.
I never said the tablets. I was refering to the theme they used on their phones that looked almost identical to iOS before version 4.
What i don't read anywhere, is that samsung pointed out this photoweirdness on the first courtday, but decided not to pursue it?
(to be honest, i have no idea what media to believe, but the courtcase is pretty well covered in the dutch news with plenty interesting details)
(to be honest, i have no idea what media to believe, but the courtcase is pretty well covered in the dutch news with plenty interesting details)
Because the first courtday where Samsung will be present will be on August 25th
Evidence they photoshopped it?
From all available evidence, this is a desktop publishing error in joining images from disparate sources onto a single page, not a "photoshop" error at all (there is no evidence of anything more than a simple scale error, not anything that you would open PhotoShop to do). Where they have Apple-sourced images, including side-by-side images where the devices are off, the aspect ratios all are precisely correct. It is just one pair of images, intended to show the icon interface similarities, which has this error.
Also note that Samsung itself, on its own site today, has images of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with messed up aspect ratios (not to this degree, but 1-2% variance in both directions). It is easy to mess up aspect ratios when dealing with images (much moreso in a word processor than on a web page, in fact).
MacRumors opinion reflecting market realities?? LOL not even close.
I'll stick to Apple's numbers and projections, thanks.
Oh PLEASE post some factual evidence to backup your claim that Apple are going to stop making computers, or that everybody wants a Macbook Pro/ Mac Pro/ Mac Mini/ iMac running iOS. I will be waiting.............
This is ridiculous, and also the people voting down those suggest that Apple wouldn't try something like this are being ridiculous.
Not that Apple wouldn't try it because it's sleazy, is that Apple wouldn't try it because it's too easy to spot and get caught at. Especially from a company that obsesses on aesthetics.
If Apple really wanted to mislead, they'd come up with something better than stretching an image that is obvious to spot. I mean really, it's not hard to see - Android tablets look freakishly skinny and tall in portrait mode. Anyone would notice the difference right away. Not only that, but why wouldn't they do it to all of their images? Or why wouldn't they do it to the images that were taken on angles, not one straight on. As you can see, it's easy to prove top-down images with a couple of straight lines. No, Apple is not that stupid. If they were to try this, they'd at least do it with images on an angle where it could be chalked up to "perspective" if they were ever called on it.
Occam's razor: this is a layout error in Word, InDesign, or whatever they used to write the briefs. It's an easy mistake to make. The writer probably just stretched the image to fit the page instead of moving it or enlarging it in both directions.
Not that Apple wouldn't try it because it's sleazy, is that Apple wouldn't try it because it's too easy to spot and get caught at. Especially from a company that obsesses on aesthetics.
If Apple really wanted to mislead, they'd come up with something better than stretching an image that is obvious to spot. I mean really, it's not hard to see - Android tablets look freakishly skinny and tall in portrait mode. Anyone would notice the difference right away. Not only that, but why wouldn't they do it to all of their images? Or why wouldn't they do it to the images that were taken on angles, not one straight on. As you can see, it's easy to prove top-down images with a couple of straight lines. No, Apple is not that stupid. If they were to try this, they'd at least do it with images on an angle where it could be chalked up to "perspective" if they were ever called on it.
Occam's razor: this is a layout error in Word, InDesign, or whatever they used to write the briefs. It's an easy mistake to make. The writer probably just stretched the image to fit the page instead of moving it or enlarging it in both directions.
Apple can't admit what REALLY happened...
What REALLY happened is that the ORIGINAL document was crafted in Pages. But it was transferred to the iPad and edited before it was emailed into court. Since there are some disparities in the iOS and Mac version of pages - an image got distorted.
Completely innocent.
<said tongue in cheek>
What REALLY happened is that the ORIGINAL document was crafted in Pages. But it was transferred to the iPad and edited before it was emailed into court. Since there are some disparities in the iOS and Mac version of pages - an image got distorted.
Completely innocent.
<said tongue in cheek>
Well, Apple certainly photoshopped images when it introduced the iPad, to imply that it can show the Flash content on the NYT page. This is basically the same type of shenanigans.
The whole thing is ridiculous, though: Yes, the two devices have a similar shape and a similar black bezel. But if this was the criteria, TV set manufacturers would be perpetually in court, as would AV receiver manufacturers and even car companies.
The functionality of the device demands certain similarities in design. Apple is simply trying to use the courts to prevent others from competing. The same way they do it with their patent trolling.
Indeed, Samsung has not had an opportunity to respond to the specifics of Apple's complaint. But, I doubt this will even come up. It actually has nothing to do with the specifics of Apple's complaint.
If Samsung tried to use this argument in court, all they would accomplish is insulting the Judge's intelligence and opposing councils integrity. Both of those would be strategically stupid moves at this point.
If Samsung says anything about that picture, they might simply say it does accurately display the differences between the two devices. A statement that would likely be buried on page 28 of their response. This will not be a cornerstone of their defense.