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My opinion: Nexus 10 is a hunk of plastic.

Its a cheap plastic POS. I don't understand why they just don't make a precision diamond cut titanium/magnesium/aluminum unibody fused with glass. Solid, durable and slick. Raise the price by $50-100 and it would still sell the bejesus out of it.

Its like they dont want to knock Apple out
 
Its a cheap plastic POS. I don't understand why they just don't make a precision diamond cut titanium/magnesium/aluminum unibody fused with glass. Solid, durable and slick. Raise the price by $50-100 and it would still sell the bejesus out of it.

Its like they dont want to knock Apple out

Some people prefer cheap....
 
My opinion: Nexus 10 is a hunk of plastic.

Do you prefer hunk of aluminum to a hunk of plastic? Your choice. It has little (or nothing) to do with the quality of a tablet. Plastic makes tablet lighter which is very important for a mobile device. Notice that Nexus 10 is lighter and thinner than iPad 4.
 
Its a cheap plastic POS. I don't understand why they just don't make a precision diamond cut titanium/magnesium/aluminum unibody fused with glass. Solid, durable and slick. Raise the price by $50-100 and it would still sell the bejesus out of it.

Its like they dont want to knock Apple out

Plastic has some qualities that make it superior to aluminum. Obviously you do not need to use diamond cut with plastics. Here is what Joshua Topolsky had to say about the case (from his interview with Matias Duarte):

The tablet itself isn't bad looking either. In fact, it's nice looking. Made from a single piece of plastic and treated with a subtly textured coating, it feels good in your hand too. "The housing is plastic, injection molded plastic, and it has to be in order to achieve the weight that we wanted," Matias tells me, grinning. It's super thin, and though it's got a 16:9, 10.055-inch display, it feels smaller and lighter than other tablets in this class. I joke with Matias that usually people try to cover up the fact that they built their device with a plastic housing. "But this is a beautiful piece of plastic," he jokes back.
 
Well statistics have shown something else. People want aluminum unibodies and slick products. Thats why Apple is the biggest company in the world

If you are actually arguing that there are NOT people who will choose something else because it is cheaper, you're a dope.
 
or $399 for Nexus 10 monster which seem to be much superior tablet even to iPad 4? Choices, choices...

Can you get that "superior" tablet in a 64GB version? How about one with LTE or even 3G connectivity?
 
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Although it's funny that people talks about high quality materials vs cheap plastic....and 90% of iPhones and iPads I see are shoved into a plastic/silcone cover. :)
 
Well statistics have shown something else. People want aluminum unibodies and slick products. Thats why Apple is the biggest company in the world

It is not. It has highest market cap but this is just one way to characterize company size. Arguably Samsung is much larger company: more employees, more assets, more products. They sold twice as many plastic smart phones last quarter compared to iPhone.
 
Can you get that "superior" tablet in a 64GB version? How about one with LTE or even 3G connectivity.?

3G (and perhaps LTE) will obviously come later. Most people do not need it though as they do not need 64GB. Similarly one can not get iPad with NFC or even GPS (without 3/4G). None of it is critical for most people.
 
Well statistics have shown something else. People want aluminum unibodies and slick products. Thats why Apple is the biggest company in the world

Huh? :confused:

No.

Apps and software have something to do with it.

Most people detest paying too much for a laptop or a tablet. No one wants to pay MORE.
 
Do you prefer hunk of aluminum to a hunk of plastic? Your choice. It has little (or nothing) to do with the quality of a tablet. Plastic makes tablet lighter which is very important for a mobile device. Notice that Nexus 10 is lighter and thinner than iPad 4.

I prefer aluminum.
 
3G (and perhaps LTE) will obviously come later. Most people do not need it though as they do not need 64GB. Similarly one can not get iPad with NFC or even GPS (without 3/4G). None of it is critical for most people.

So because it isn't available now, most people don't need it? Riiiiight.:rolleyes:
 
You are right. It does mean however that customers "should" buy Android tablets because they are simply better (not just a better value - but technically better).

We all know apple doesn't always play the spec game. For the majority of customers, if it works smoothly they don't care.

Surprisingly, I have yet to see a single iPad without a case on public :confused:

I have always just used a Smart Cover and that's it. Apple customers always want their products to be in pristine condition. I concur but I wanna use the damn thing as intended. Same with my naked iPhone 5. I do have accidental replacement though lol
 
We all know apple doesn't always play the spec game. For the majority of customers, if it works smoothly they don't care.



I have always just used a Smart Cover and that's it. Apple customers always want their products to be in pristine condition. I concur but I wanna use the damn thing as intended. Same with my naked iPhone 5. I do have accidental replacement though lol

Are you implying all Apple fans suffer from OCD? ;)
 
Don't worry. If they perceives that the price wasn't right, they will adjust it. Remember what happened to the original iPhone?
 
Playbook is also built with Plastic and it dont feel cheap when i use it.

Plastic makes it lighter and isn't it because of the aluminium that make Ipad 3 feels hot when play games????

Makes it lighter with better spec. Its a sure win over Ipad mini but not over Ipad 4.
 
Playbook is also built with Plastic and it dont feel cheap when i use it.

Plastic makes it lighter and isn't it because of the aluminium that make Ipad 3 feels hot when play games????

Makes it lighter with better spec. Its a sure win over Ipad mini but not over Ipad 4.

Playbook... lol
 
What would it have taken to launch a 32gb ipad mini with gps and cellular for under $300??

I'm telling you, the minis might be flying off the shelves right now but watch the long-term effect of their pricing.

Well at a rough guess it would have involved a profit margin around 0%... Okay, not an entirely serious answer that but it would have been a very thin margin and devalued the whole brand as a result.

I really don't understand why people STILL think Apple need to corner the low end of any market. Just look at the PC market for an example of how this works: grab the top end, where all the profit is, with high quality premium products that a large number of people are willing to pay for. You build a loyal customer base who don't simply shop on price and, better still, are willing to spend money within your ecosystem. This, in turn, encourages third parties to participate in said ecosystem and you build a successful business.

There will always be a market, perhaps even the majority of the market, for cheaper devices. In the past that meant companies like Dell selling PC's with profit margins in the low single digits and relying on volume to make them profitable. Now that's changing and you have the likes of Amazon and Google willing to ship devices at or very near cost (or even at a loss) to make money on the services and media used on those devices. Time will tell if that's a sustainable business model and where customers prefer to spend their money but there's certainly a big enough market out there for both models to be successful.

And lest anyone think cheaper always wins let me throw this out there. For a long time now the BMW 3 Series has outsold the Ford Mondeo in the UK. The Mondeo is bigger, just as comfortable (hell, maybe more so if the 3 had run flat tires), better equipped and on recent models within a whisker on interior quality. Yet customers flocked in droves to the premium brand despite often getting a 'worse' car for more money. Same for Audi and Mercedes. And this in a recession... Consumers WILL pay more for a premium product. Not necessarily all customers and not necessarily every time but enough will to make it worthwhile pursuing a high end strategy if you can deliver on it.
 
i agree that it should've bee 299 for marketing reasons

but it wasn't a huge mistake as they are sold out and there's a small delay

there's always Nexus 7 and Fire as alternatives for everyone else

The notion of Apple always selling out of products after a major launch is a 'misnomer' to say the least!!!

Anyone with an iota of common sense knows this is a marketing strategy full stop, one mean't to placate the FanBois and share holders - basically, Apple deliberately makes low volume of stocks available to make it seem that its new product launches have been a huge success.

Given the number one pad currently flying off shelves in the UK is the Nexus 7, and given the cheap price point of the Nexus 7 3G - perhaps you'd like Google and Asus to restrict access to these devices in the initial first week to maximise coverage on sites like this.

To put it bluntly, Apple have dropped the ball, its stock price is actually stagnating and it sell's over priced pretty toys catering to fashion requirements of the 1% that add little of real value to the real world - unlike its desk top/ computer business that added huge value to consumers and business alike - not to mention the number of manufacture ring/assembly jobs it used to provide in the first world and not the Third World - obviously Apple having no obligation whatsoever to its host nation hence the massive tax avoidance and off shoring of jobs to corrupt anti-democratic nations - not only Apple do this though I admit.

Now given I started off in life with a Apple LCIII way back in 1992 and have been in the Apple ecosystem ever since up until June this year with the purchase of a iPad 3 64G 4LTE, one was seriously not excited by Apple's new products this month - a anorexic iMac, a anorexic mac mini, a 13in Macbook Retina that's obviously way too expensive given the original was priced under US$1000 and a iPad Mini that's a iPad two in all but name and size at a stupid price point.

So, what do you think I'm investing in next for me and my daughter, well it ain't the iPad Mini or the new iPad, rather I'm getting a N7 32G for daughters Christmas box, a N7 32 3G for myself and a N4 Phone for the wife all for the price of a top end iPad - now who's the fools!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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