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ipod0324 said:
What are the chances that a new iTunes will allow you to transfer movies from DVDs to your computer then iPod just like the present one does with CDs.

It won't happen, at least Apple won't allow direct import. If you wanted to watch DVDs on your Ipod you would have to use something like Handbrake or MactheRipper first to copy the content to your hard drive and then either use Quicktime 7 Pro or ffmpegx to encode to video Ipod format.:D Keep in mind that this is under the assumption that you won't illegally share this content over BitTorrent or some other method. Programs like Handbrake and MactheRipper exist for "fair use" purposes only. Please don't steal copyrighted content.:)
 
Zillatron said:
Steve also said that people dont want video on iPod's, but thats what we have now. I think Steve, and Apple generally are very good at doing exactly what they want. And even better at fooling people.

If Steve had said, yeah we think video is where it's at, every cheese brand mp3 player maker in the world would have started pumping out video players. Thats bad. Shock value is everything for Apple marketing, the whole iPod with video thing is a great case in point - "we wont do it, ever, never, forget it, its not what you want...oh by the way: BOOM. here you go!"

This is an excellent point. I've said a dozen times already: Steve Jobs-- on top of being an excellent speaker-- is phenomenal at justifying things. Above is one example. Steve said a video iPod was a dumb idea because there was no content. At the time, it was true. All of a sudden, iTunes offers the content so it's no longer a dumb idea.

Another: The little cheap mp3 players with the tiny screens are useless. They can only hold x number of songs, the screen is too small to read, they aren't intuitive, and they're too expensive. Next thing you know, Apple offers one that's cheaper, has a larger capacity, is incredibly simple to use, and doesn't even bother with a screen.

If Apple releases a PDA-type thing or a tablet, it will not just be a prettier version of an already existing product. It will be better in every way. Why? Because Jobs has already bashed those products in public.

-Squire
 
Squire said:
Because Jobs has already bashed those products in public.

-Squire

So where's my Apple Hybrid Hatchback? Steve bashed the automakers in that last Time article.

I don't think Apple's products are as revolutionary as people make them out to be. Apple is just really good at design, packaging and hype.
 
Mac Dummy said:
It won't happen, at least Apple won't allow direct import.

That's a shame as I think if Apple releases their mini Media Center; the killer app for a lot of people would be an easy way to rip and organize their DVD collection. It would be really cool to have a program that goes beyond a iTunes for video content. Imagine something like iMovie where you would have bins where all of your movies are stored. From there you could access your favorite chapters and scenes and 'edit' together playlists. Kind of like those Oscar montages they do
 
Evan_11 said:
I don't think Apple's products are as revolutionary as people make them out to be. Apple is just really good at design, packaging and hype.

I don't disagree with you. But that "design" element is huge in my book. The aesthetics of the hardware, the ease of use, and the design of the software are immensely important. Put them all together and you sometimes have something revolutionary. ;)

-Squire
 
Evan_11 said:
I don't think Apple's products are as revolutionary as people make them out to be. Apple is just really good at design, packaging and hype.

There is little revolutionary about Apple hardware and that is generally a good thing. A single company can no longer sustain teh R&D required to make every element of the machine itself. The customer also demands compatibility with 3rd party products and Apple have to adhere to the standards so as to ensure that.

Apple does however put in the little touches such as the magsafe power connector that make them stand apart from the crowd. They also have extraordinarily good build quality.

What does make Apple revolutionary is the software suite they offer. There is little doubt that the design philosophy for Apple software is power with simplicty.

Finally, OK so looks aren't the most important part of a computer and nor should they ever be, but Apple's philosophy toward the aesthtics is and will continue to be ahead of the rest.
 
Apple have Intel desktops and notebooks for sale, I agree there next goal would probably be the Mac Mini as it needs to attract in the switchers. But I want my new iBook! :p The boombox thing seems less likely though, I'm not sure how big this event is, but depending on whether it is marketed as an iPod accessory or part of time actual lineup could determine whether it will be released.
 
I think the mac mini intel transition will come before the ibook becuase the mini has never been updated, only boosted alittle bit but thats it. And from the rumors it sounds like that the ibook is going to be a completly new design and will blow us all away, now I think that sounds like a 30th aniversary sort of thing, not the mini.
 
The time is not ripe for A dvr, too many variables.

Tuner? Cable Card? Satellite? Way too much up in the air, even in the windows media center arena, for these things. Vista will ship with cable card support, which is something I feel ANY widely accepted media center ANYTHING will require. Just being able to tune standard tv, or having to set up ir blasters, etc is really above and beyone what the general public is willing to accept, and certainly beyone what apple likes to present, with its "Easier" this way philosophy. I however would not be surprised to see a Video Airport Express, as this would be another building block in the road to the grand plan of a whole house mac philosophy.

I have that now using windows MCE, and my 360 as an extender, and frankly, it works pretty good. My gf can use the interface, and watch movies / tv shows. It also has a dvr interface, however at this point its lacking, atleast for me due to the lack of a cable card, and that limits me to ota tuner cards, and who wants to dvr fuzzy non hd tv.

NOT ME

Cant wait for vista for this reason!
 
BRLawyer said:
In fact, fair use has NOTHING to do with a "consortium" of companies, or what they "allow" you to do...fair use is a statutory right that does not differentiate between CDs or DVDs, and is predicted under hard laws, not the private will of a select few...if fair use tells you it's OK to make a private copy, you can do it regardless of being CD, DVD or cassette; and this is where fair use and DRM collide most.
Fair use is not a statutory right, it's not a right at all. Fair use is a defense. And it's only a defense against copyright infringment. It's also wooly, few people realise that outside of a few areas where copyright directly impedes free speech (for example, parody of a copyrighted object requires copyright infringement as a part of it), the defenses it gives you can be extremely minimal even comparing to what appear, at first glance, to be similar situations.

The DMCA includes provisions against circumventing an "Access Control Mechanism". This is not bypassable by claiming "Fair use", as it's not copying, merely a legal mechanism to back-up the enforcement of copyrights. If Apple doesn't have permission from the DVD-CCA, they cannot produce something that allows users to make use of DVD content protected by CSS (which is an ACM.) Period. There's no fair use case at all. It's just not legal. Fair use doesn't apply because it's not copying we're talking about here, it's an entirely seperate system.

HD DVD and BluRay will apparently incorporate mechanisms to allow a limited system of copying from the source media to a computer system, but both are restricted. In HD DVD's case, the copyright holder can actually charge you for using the system (and charge you whatever they want.) In BluRay's case, the system is "optional", copyright holders being able to prevent it from occuring altogether (this isn't a big deal, as HD DVD producers can set the price to a million dollars per copy anyway.) No such mechanism exists for exploitation in regular DVD, and there probably never will be simply because of the time and effort it would entail getting permission from all the relevent parties to allow it to happen.

In any case, the bottom line is that in this case, the consortium of companies can tell you exactly what a manufacturer like Apple can do with DVD content. Any content that's encapsulated by CSS (and most is) can only be accessed under the terms and conditions set by the DVD-CCA. That's the law. No fair use defense applies. This isn't about copying, it's about Apple only having permission to produce tools that access that content with the consent of the DVD-CCA, under the terms that the DVD-CCA claims.
 
nomad01 said:
I noticed that Amazon.co.uk are selling the current iPods (video) with a £30 saving right now.

Does the UK Amazon site usually sell them that much cheaper?
yeah the US store is selling them for $15 off. but i dont know if it's always been like that or not.
 
bill4588 said:
yeah the US store is selling them for $15 off. but i dont know if it's always been like that or not.

Well, $15 off is a bit more what I'd expect from the UK store (if anything) but £30... that's about $50.00. Seems generous.

Ah well. Time will tell.
 
Squire said:
This is an excellent point.
Thanks :)

Squire said:
All of a sudden, iTunes offers the content so it's no longer a dumb idea.
exactly. Tablet PC's are crapola now because they have a crappy OS, crappy input, crappy design etc.
Again, i'm not saying a MacPad(c) would be a tablet, but if its executed to do a particular thing (like the iPod) then its not a dumb idea anymore.

I'm sticking by my 'Take your iLife with you' idea.

Squire said:
If Apple releases a PDA-type thing or a tablet, it will not just be a prettier version of an already existing product. It will be better in every way. Why? Because Jobs has already bashed those products in public.
...and because like mp3 players and computers before them, nobody has done it 'right', yet.

Maybe not a revolution, but an evolution.

Z
 
Zillatron said:
Thanks :)
exactly. Tablet PC's are crapola now because they have a crappy OS, crappy input, crappy design etc.
Again, i'm not saying a MacPad(c) would be a tablet, but if its executed to do a particular thing (like the iPod) then its not a dumb idea anymore.

I'm sticking by my 'Take your iLife with you' idea.
Z
I think the tablets should have a unique user interface similar to the ancient technology video advertisement from Apple...the one where the tablet looked like a book and had a voice recognition secratary.
 
e-clipse said:
the one where the tablet looked like a book and had a voice recognition secratary.


I donno about a device like a book (not really a pocket device like an iPod), maybe more like a 5G ipod but all screen.
OSX already has voice reco...! I think i mentioned this somewhere on another thread, the technology is already here for Apple to do this.

We have seen what they are capable of making with the nano. And now that is in mass production! A year before the nano's release nobody would have belived you if you told them thats what is coming.

Same here - seems almost impossiable. However, consider that almost all of the hardware needed for a MacPad(c) type device already exists, in full mass produced glory in the ipod. The rest is in the MacBook ;)

Z
 
Think Retro

Ok, the iPod is now the escence of Apple, but we cannot forget this old products of the after-NeXT/before-Jobs era, so I I've some good ideas:

·The Newton Return
·The TAM 2 (Thertieth Annyversary Macintosh), remember the TAM was released in 1997, when Apple had already 21 years.
·The Cube Core Duo
·An iMac-Size iPod (1 TB storage, HD video)
·An iPod-Size iMac (Based on Newton idea)
·iMedia Centre (not the mac mini)
·A PowerMac (¿MacMac now?) under US$2000
·Apple switching from Intel to AMD (Is my idea, or it is making a lot of hot here?) -At least use 64-bit processors, Apple. Remember the G5?
·Mac OS for PC (Die Windows, die!)
·iPod Atto (90% smaller than Nano and 90% more easily scratchable)
·Retro Machines with new hardware inside (Imagine a Macintosh 128K with 2.16 GHz Core Duo, 1 GB RAM, 1 TB Hard Drive and Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX 512)
 
buffalo said:
does anyone have any idea when (EST) the webcast will be available?
recent keynotes have been available later in the day but i'm not sure about this one. is steve giving a video-recorded keynote? i'm assuming he is, but i just want to make sure.
 
aWannabeMacUser said:
·The Newton Return
·The TAM 2 (Thertieth Annyversary Macintosh), remember the TAM was released in 1997, when Apple had already 21 years.
·The Cube Core Duo
·An iMac-Size iPod (1 TB storage, HD video)
·An iPod-Size iMac (Based on Newton idea)
·iMedia Centre (not the mac mini)
·A PowerMac (¿MacMac now?) under US$2000
·Apple switching from Intel to AMD (Is my idea, or it is making a lot of hot here?) -At least use 64-bit processors, Apple. Remember the G5?
·Mac OS for PC (Die Windows, die!)
·iPod Atto (90% smaller than Nano and 90% more easily scratchable)
·Retro Machines with new hardware inside (Imagine a Macintosh 128K with 2.16 GHz Core Duo, 1 GB RAM, 1 TB Hard Drive and Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX 512)

I hope you are kidding around. A 1 TB iPod?? for what? that thing wont go anywhere, might as well put a display on it, give it an iSight and keyboard and get...an iMac!
No way a TAM2 is coming out now. IF they release that, they will do it in late March/April at the earliest. But let us not forget, TAM was a bit of a flop. Although, the ROM contents were funny.
 
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