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I have a Toshiba laptop from 2007 with a Core 2 Duo processor running Windows 10 (originally came with Windows Vista). It's slow, but it still runs and is supported by Microsoft.

I have another Toshiba (belongs to a friend) from 2009 (originally came with Windows 7) that I recently upgraded to Windows 10.

Microsoft supports PCs much longer than Apple supports Macs.
I thought more about that last night and came up with this, it is hard to compare Apple and PC's from the stand point that MS is only making the OS and it is written to be ubiquitous across all Windows based hardware so they have to make it work on a myriad of CPU's, motherboards, etc. so it is more forgiving where as Mac OS is written and optimized specifically for Apple hardware. So, as code changes to move forward with technology older chips do get left behind because they simply can't run the new code...ie 32 bit vs 64 bit. I see people bitching about why do we need 64 bit, but without it I don't think all of the modern gaming and graphic programs would run at the level that they are now.

Just a thought
 
It's pretty interesting that the 2012 13" non-Retina hasn't even been added to the vintage list yet since they sold it for so long. Looks like it's scheduled to be added in October.
 
Is it advisable to buy the late 2013 MacBook Pro 13" Retina? I made a purchase but have the window to return it. I want to be sure before I make a final commitment. Please it's urgent
 
Is it advisable to buy the late 2013 MacBook Pro 13" Retina? I made a purchase but have the window to return it. I want to be sure before I make a final commitment. Please it's urgent
A loaded question. Check all the data in the “About this Mac” section to get a feel of the mileage that’s on it. If used moderately, you are probably good.
 
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Is it advisable to buy the late 2013 MacBook Pro 13" Retina? I made a purchase but have the window to return it. I want to be sure before I make a final commitment. Please it's urgent
Read all these posts, many of us are still using late 2012 MBP and going strong. "Obsolete" only means Apple doesn't support it anymore, doesn't mean you can't get parts or service from third-party sources.
 
Read all these posts, many of us are still using late 2012 MBP and going strong. "Obsolete" only means Apple doesn't support it anymore, doesn't mean you can't get parts or service from third-party sources.
Thanks so much. Really helpful.
 
One of the best machines I (still) own. The only downside was the soldered RAM but I maxed it out with 16GB, so no problem. It had replaceable flash drive - no M2 - but still a good thing. Replaced the 256GB storage with a !TB after a few years. And it had ports, man!!!! What an awesome computer for developers and professionals it was.

Replaced it with an 2018 MacBook Pro and all the pain and troubles began. Butterfly Keyboard, sh***y TouchBar, overheating Core i9, problems with dongles and adapters. And I will never forget that those problems came for free with an €4500 laptop …
 
We once set off after a fuel-stop with my 2012 rMBP 13 on hood of the car Only realised a few miles down the road, but actually got it returned thanks to find my mac a few days later

The cheap Neoprene sleeve it was wearing at the time of the accident was worn right thru in places, and the machine itself now boasts some deep scuffs and a couple of dents on the lid. That was back in November 2016, yet still going strong in the 4 and half years since

Now going into a well deserved semi retirement (I figure it's time for it to put what's left of its feet up for most of each week)
 
“obsolete” but my 2012 mbp (upgraded ssd&ram) has been running strong since 2016 as my daily driver for online classes with absolutely no issues. these systems arent given enough credit tbh
 
Daily Driver here: :) is a great machine running Mojave

10,1

Early 2013

Model 1398 (EMC 2673)

2.8 i7 22nm Ivy Bridge (3840QM) Quad core

8 MB L3

15" BTO

16GB 1600 MHz DDR3

512 Samsung ssd

Intel HD 4000 1536 MB graphics

Nvidia gpu Maxell series (GeForce GT 650M) 1GB DDR5

2880x1800 Retina display

3 stream .n

Bluetooth 4.0
 
No. Thats true. I still have and use my 2000 Powerbook Pismo, 1GB, G4 upgrade, 240GB SSD, superbright screen, airport, firewire, leather coating and just drop dead gorgeous. Last battery from 2016, running OSX and Linux.
There is nothing, past, present, future, that comes close to this antique.
should run at a snails pace looking at my other machines. But you would be surprised.
Obsolete? My foot.
I loved being able to swap out the floppy drive for the combo drive. It was my first laptop. Wish I still had it.
 
Will be a sad day when my beloved 2015 13" MBP gets added to this list in a few years. These are, IMHO, the best MBPs ever made, and I am typing this on my M1 MBA base model, which itself is seriously impressive and my daily workhorse now.
Lol I use my 2015 13" mbp as my main computer
 
Unbelievable the Retina MacBook Pro was launched almost 10 years ago, crazy 2012 is almost a decade ago. Time flies! I remember watching the keynote and thinking I would never be able to afford this. But 4 years later, with my first writing gig, I was able to buy the Early 2015 13 inch Retina MacBook Pro and iPhone 6s. Still have it and use it, but it certainly is getting less use since I bought my M1 MacBook Pro. Its still current in its design, Apple could have easily kept it going and I wouldn't have been bothered that its still the same.

The 15 inch model is huge in comparison to the 13 inch. I might pick up one just to have it to play with and load it with Lion.
I recently picked up my Early 2013 15 inch rMBP and I'm now running MacOS 11.5 Beta Big Sur on it without any issues. In fact, the updated OS has been running quicker on it so I know even though Apple has discontinued any type of support to my Early 2013 MBP, it is still more than capable of running Big Sur on it. No need to run Lion on this laptop... just saying :)
 
I recently picked up my Early 2013 15 inch rMBP and I'm now running MacOS 11.5 Beta Big Sur on it without any issues. In fact, the updated OS has been running quicker on it so I know even though Apple has discontinued any type of support to my Early 2013 MBP, it is still more than capable of running Big Sur on it. No need to run Lion on this laptop... just saying :)
2013 retinas are listed as a supported model. My reason for wanting to pick up a 2012 retina and load it up with Lion is nostalgia reasons.
 
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