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I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple did the 16” MBP refresh sometime at the very beginning of the second quarter of 2024. Could also be the first quarter but I don’t believe so since that happened last year with the M2 16”, but maybe. I’ll welcome an upgrade from my 2011 i7 MBP! That thing is still going strong for my daily use!
 
I am really looking forward for the M3.
Especially the Max version and especially for the GPU.

I would really love to see the gaming industry change on Apple devices (all, mobile and Mac), and the recent A17 Pro is the way to go with Desktop class GPU.
M3 can be the moment for the Mac.

Unfortunately gaming for Mac is the chicken and the egg. Not enough gamers because not enough games, not enough games because not enough gamers.

I love to play on my M1 Max MBP, and not having to buy a separate Windows machine just for that would allow me to have a better Mac where to do both.

Very curious to see what is gonna be the M3
 


Apple will release its first MacBooks based on TSMC's 3nm fabrication process in 2024, not this year as some rumors have suggested. That's according to a new five-year global notebook shipments forecast published by DigiTimes.

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Predicting an end to a two-year decline in the notebook market, the report forecasts a 4.7% shipment growth in 2024 driven by the easing of inflation and the introduction of new products, including new MacBooks powered by 3nm-based chips. From the report:
In July, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said October of this year could see the announcement of the first Macs with the M3 chip. Given that Apple launched new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models in January, and more recently new 15-inch ‌MacBook Air‌, ‌Mac Studio‌, and ‌Mac Pro‌ models in June, Gurman said the first beneficiaries of the new M3 chip would likely be the next ‌iMac‌, 13-inch ‌MacBook Air‌, and 13-inch MacBook Pro.

However, more recently in September, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that it seemed Apple will not launch new MacBook models with M3 series chips before the end of this year. Kuo only ruled out new MacBooks though, which appears to leave open the possibility of a new iMac coming this year. The current model featuring the M1 chip has now been on sale for over two and a half years.

DigiTimes itself recently suggested Apple would make a MacBook Pro announcement before the holidays. The Taiwan-based outlet earlier this month claimed Apple is preparing to ship new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with more power-efficient mini-LED displays before the year is out. That report did not mention the processor the models would be based on, but Gurman has previously said the next version of these two machines will feature M3 Pro and M3 Max chips, and that they will "probably" launch by the middle of 2024 at the latest.
The as-yet-unannounced M3 chip is widely expected to be fabricated with TSMC's 3nm process for performance and power efficiency improvements compared to the current 5nm-based ‌M2‌ chip, which debuted in June 2022. It will also likely feature an all new GPU with hardware ray-tracing, first introduced on the iPhone 15 Pro's A17 Pro chip last month.

Article Link: Apple's First M3 MacBooks Coming Next Year, Claims Shipment Forecast
M3 is not ready or more to the point not good enough to be ready, 10% increase in speed through higher speed clocks is just as poor as the M2 was.
The real reason Mac shipments are down by so much, is because the M2 upgrades were cr.p to be frank and Apple are to busy virtue signalling, rather than inovating 😡
 
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It was always obvious, given that the M2 Mini Pro was only released this year (2023) and the Studio M2 just released .... that there was never going to be an M3 Mac released this year. It was self-evidently unbelievable made-up nonsense when it was proposed at the time. I really don't understand why it was ever even published at the time: just embarrassing.
 
Only Apple knows. Expect 15-20% boost on some benchmark's. Perhaps slightly better battery life. Kind of like M1 to M2 which despite being faster is barely noticeable for most daily computing tasks.

I’d just get one now if you need a computer. M1/M2 are spectacular if you’re coming from an older IntelMac. An M3 won’t do anything an M1/M2 can’t do.
Almost certainly it'll have hardware ray tracing and AV1 support, which is something M1/M2 can't do.

If you care about that is up to you, but they are meaningful improvements. I have been holding out for M3 specifically because of AV1.
 
an M2 Mini was a tempting upgrade for my M1 Mini (also the larger RAM option)

But M1/16gb is still strong enough to hold out for M3 :D

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Almost certainly it'll have hardware ray tracing and AV1 support, which is something M1/M2 can't do.

If you care about that is up to you, but they are meaningful improvements. I have been holding out for M3 specifically because of AV1.
I am waiting for the M3 too for AV1, but also because of the rumored bump in RAM memory, from base 8GB and upgraded 16GB, to base 12GB and upgraded 24GB.

If this chips are coming in 2024, they are probably manufactured in the N3E process, but if they come with the N3B process and the architecture of the A17 Pro, and the performance jump is in line with the A17, with higher power consumption… maybe I’ll wait for the M4 generation. We’ll see.
 
I’m thinking we get something like:

Spring Event: M3 announcement with new MacBook Air 13” / 15” and a new iMac (maybe with some other upgrades beyond just the chip since it’s been… so long).

WWDC: M3 Pro / Max / Ultra reveal (maybe extreme???) with new updated Studio, MacBook Pros and Mac Pro.

This should be a good generation for Apple Silicon. Not only is this the first 3nm chipset for personal computers but this will also be the first Mac chip with hardware ray tracing which should help them compete better with nvidia for certain task.
 
TechNote reported in July that TSMC was only achieving a 55% chip yield at the time and Apple was only paying for qualifying parts. So unless that has substantially increased, Apple wouldn't be able to switch all the variants of the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro over the same time.
 
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Good. Push out these M3 series chips long enough so that you can put one in the Vision Pro. We need hardware ray tracing on that for it to survive in the gaming industry.
 
I'm going to wait for a new M3 15" MBA. Depending on it's performance, ram and storage options I'll upgrade or stick with my M1 MBA.
 
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M3 is not ready or more to the point not good enough to be ready, 10% increase in speed through higher speed clocks is just as poor as the M2 was.
The real reason Mac shipments are down by so much, is because the M2 upgrades were cr.p to be frank and Apple are to busy virtue signalling, rather than inovating 😡
I think Apple picked most of the low-hanging fruits with the Intel–>M1 transition, so to speak, and it’s more difficult to make further dramatic improvements. AMD is in a similar situation with Zen now. Technological progress isn’t linear, it comes in leaps and phases.
 
Not sure why everyone would be so excited for a very minor spec update with negligible differences in speed.
 
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This has been some long upgrade cycles so far. 2020 M1 began. 2022 M2 Began. Now, 2024 before M3. We literally got a new machine with M2 at WWDC 2022, and then the same machine in a larger size with the same M2 at WWDC 2023. And now we are waiting until the next one or not too long before to get M3.

I don't expect an annual update like iPhone, as the upgrade cycle for iPhone is different than Mac. But 18 months for Mac seems to be a better target than closer to 24 months.
 
I feel like M3 is worth the wait. I was considering a M2 Max MBP purchase at the end of this year, but how I wonder if its worth it to wait, that is unless M3 Pro/Max doesnt happen until the end of next year.
 


Apple will release its first MacBooks based on TSMC's 3nm fabrication process in 2024, not this year as some rumors have suggested. That's according to a new five-year global notebook shipments forecast published by DigiTimes.

m3-feature-black.jpg

Predicting an end to a two-year decline in the notebook market, the report forecasts a 4.7% shipment growth in 2024 driven by the easing of inflation and the introduction of new products, including new MacBooks powered by 3nm-based chips. From the report:
In July, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said October of this year could see the announcement of the first Macs with the M3 chip. Given that Apple launched new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models in January, and more recently new 15-inch ‌MacBook Air‌, ‌Mac Studio‌, and ‌Mac Pro‌ models in June, Gurman said the first beneficiaries of the new M3 chip would likely be the next ‌iMac‌, 13-inch ‌MacBook Air‌, and 13-inch MacBook Pro.

However, more recently in September, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that it seemed Apple will not launch new MacBook models with M3 series chips before the end of this year. Kuo only ruled out new MacBooks though, which appears to leave open the possibility of a new iMac coming this year. The current model featuring the M1 chip has now been on sale for over two and a half years.

DigiTimes itself recently suggested Apple would make a MacBook Pro announcement before the holidays. The Taiwan-based outlet earlier this month claimed Apple is preparing to ship new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with more power-efficient mini-LED displays before the year is out. That report did not mention the processor the models would be based on, but Gurman has previously said the next version of these two machines will feature M3 Pro and M3 Max chips, and that they will "probably" launch by the middle of 2024 at the latest.
The as-yet-unannounced M3 chip is widely expected to be fabricated with TSMC's 3nm process for performance and power efficiency improvements compared to the current 5nm-based ‌M2‌ chip, which debuted in June 2022. It will also likely feature an all new GPU with hardware ray-tracing, first introduced on the iPhone 15 Pro's A17 Pro chip last month.

Article Link: Apple's First M3 MacBooks Coming Next Year, Claims Shipment Forecast
Interesting. Apple just had big blowout stock inventory sale of a lot of their MacBook lineup and CTO models have been back ordered a few weeks. Id think that’s a channel inventory clearance for either a soft update or something bigger.
 
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I'd like to upgrade to M3 13'' MBA. Is there a chance they will do screen without top notch?
 
No M3 before the last M2 product (Vision Pro) is out.

Doesn't take a genius.
The iMac is still M1. Are you suggesting Apple will upgrade the iMac to an M2 this late so they can start moving other products in their line up to M3?

And what about the regular (10th gen) iPad and iPad mini as they're still on a A14 and A15 chip, respectively, while the iPad Air and iPad Pro are on M1 and M2 chips, respectively. No products with M3 chips until the last iPads move to an M chip as well?

It doesn't make sense to me to hold off on releasing new products/upgrades simply because one product that will be produced and sold in small quantities isn't ready yet.
 
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I'm going to wait for a new M3 15" MBA. Depending on it's performance, ram and storage options I'll upgrade or stick with my M1 MBA.
Memory and storage options for an M3 15" MBA will be the same as the memory and storage options for the M2 15" MBA. You'll get 8GB memory and 256GB (hobbled) storage on entry/base model with a $200 price tag for each upgrade (e.g. 8GB to 16GB memory, 16GB to 24GB memory, 256GB to 512 GB storage, 512GB to 1TB storage, etc).

Why would Apple change when they can milk their customers and maximize their margins despite falling memory prices. Samsung reported a 78 percent drop in profit yesterday due to low memory chip demand and low prices.
 
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I was looking to buy a 2021 14in MBP with 32 core you from bhphoto, but now with the addition of raytracing on the M3, thinking I’m going to hold out. This would be a monumental upgrade from my 2015 13” MBP.
 
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