Apple's Foldable iPhone Could Lose Almost $1,300 in Value in First Year, Study Suggests

[ThatGuyInLa]

Who will even buy this... what's the point? How can you justify the purchase?

those of us that have wanted an iphone and an ipad in one device. Ive tried to make it work using what we have now. It doesn't. I end up putting one down or its some place else in the house. And it totally falls apart when i leave the house. It's an unpleasant hassle.

The price isn't all that different than buying an iphone and ipad mini. It's a very specific niche problem, yes. I also agree that it will most likely vanish like the mini in time. (and the Vision) But for now, I'll be grabbing one to finally solve one of my privileged life tech hassles.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I try to always buy my Apple kit preowned.

Same with cars.

Lets others take the bath, I say.

 

[JosephAW]

Currently cell phone plans are at 36 months to meet apple’s pricing, can’t wait to see the 60 month plans in order to get them into consumer hands. Hopefully the right to repair will have easy battery replacement. 😵

 

[svish]

Expecting all iPhones to have better resale value compared to Android. Hopefully durability is not an issue. Durability and loose hinge could definitely lower resale value.

 

[Astuces iOS]

those of us that have wanted an iphone and an ipad in one device. Ive tried to make it work using what we have now. It doesn't. I end up putting one down or its some place else in the house. And it totally falls apart when i leave the house. It's an unpleasant hassle.

The price isn't all that different than buying an iphone and ipad mini. It's a very specific niche problem, yes. I also agree that it will most likely vanish like the mini in time. (and the Vision) But for now, I'll be grabbing one to finally solve one of my privileged life tech hassles.

Could buy 4 iPads minis for the same price and attach them to make the quadrufold pad ! So yeah I understand a bit the point but at least make the price iPad + iPhone…

 

[UltimaKilo]

Who will even buy this... what's the point? How can you justify the purchase?

Millions. It will probably be sold out for a very long time, so people had better pre-order.

 

[DocMultimedia]

If the cameras matched the Pro this year I'd probably buy one. I'm personally hoping for a flip phone (not fold) next year that matches the cameras of next year's Pro.

 

[Dirk Pieters]

Having played with a Galaxy Fold 7 a couple of times I look forward to seeing what Apple does with them. It's probably not something I want in my pocket but from a tech/interest point of view it will be good to see what that fold line/mechanism looks like on the iPhone.

 

[wonderings]

Who will even buy this... what's the point? How can you justify the purchase?

You really can't see how some people would want this? This seems pretty obvious and simple. Have an iPhone relatively the same form factor as an iPhone now. But don't stop there, it unfolds and gives you an iPad mini experience with a much larger screen. I beg the opposite question, who would not want want to unfold their phone and have a bigger screen when they want to sit down and watch a movie on the bus or plane and then when done fold it back up and slide it into their pocket? This is off course ignore the pricing.

Who would want this? Probably most people who own an iPhone and an iPad mini and potentially regular sized iPads as well.

 

[Smartuser]

Renowned professor "SellCell" has published a non-peer-reviewed study of foldable phones from the usual companies and people are going crazy over it because SellCell can look into the future (not the band).

The study is even more impactful because everyone know that Apple products always behave exactly like the competition.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

comparing a phone with a headset is always stupid.

Hard disagree here. $1999 for a phone that we most likely use dozens of times per day is much different than $3,499 for something that you might occasionally use when alone at home. Many people will also be selling iPads once this comes out (I will), which factors into the total cost as well.

There’s also the fact that the haters and loudmouths like to quickly forget.
Over 60% of phone purchases in the United States alone are all done on trade-ins, payment contracts, installment plans, or with carrier subsidies.
The Vision Pro had absolutely none of these mechanisms built-in.

Very few people are actually paying $2000 upfront for this phone, just like very few people these days pay $1300 upfront for a Pro Max.
Instead, it’s going to be like a $40 monthly bill instead of a $30 monthly bill.

 

[turbineseaplane]

This device is so different that I can't really pass any judgements about it, overall or for my own interest, until I see it and try it out a bit.

 

[Astuces iOS]

Millions. It will probably be sold out for a very long time, so people had better pre-order.

You sure? In this economy I expect people who buy it to be in debt… That’s not good, that’s not good… anyways too bad I guess…

 

[dizmonk]

I agree. I also think the market for people who want BIGGER phones is really small (no matter how it "folds"). I recently bought the 17 Pro down from the 15 Pro max and am so glad I went smaller.

I suspect this phone is going to be like Apple Vision. It's a cool concept, but it would be hard for most folks to justify the cost. Sure...there are plenty of people who have a couple thousand just laying around. However, if this thing is going to priced where it's like getting an iPhone Pro Max and a iPad Pro together...that's just silly.

 

[Marshall73]

At this point I am looking at Linux and Graphene for devices, especially if governments keep pushing surveillance programs etc.

 

[iPay]

> Could Lose Almost $1,300 in Value​

Ok, sell it $3,300, problem solved.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I agree. I also think the market for people who want BIGGER phones is really small (no matter how it "folds"). I recently bought the 17 Pro down from the 15 Pro max and am so glad I went smaller.

I wish they would consider trying a "smaller" iPhone again.

Just make one of those that releases only every 3 years or something, to satiate those of us who still value "fitting in pockets" and "using it comfortably with one hand" and having a device that doesn't weigh too much.

 

[Belisama]

Based on current foldable depreciation trends, I discovered a great way to mitigate the problem.
I will not buy it.
So it will keep 100% of its non-value.
💡

 

[Luftkopf]

There’s also the fact that the haters and loudmouths like to quickly forget.
Over 60% of phone purchases in the United States alone are all done on trade-ins, payment contracts, installment plans, or with carrier subsidies.
The Vision Pro had absolutely none of these mechanisms built-in.

Very few people are actually paying $2000 upfront for this phone, just like very few people these days pay $1300 upfront for a Pro Max.
Instead, it’s going to be like a $40 monthly bill instead of a $30 monthly bill.

Or in Australia, $160 a month instead of $135 for a Pro Max

 

[Frosty1]

Only 1292, for me it would be 3000. I miss the old 'foldable phones'

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The good ole days

 

[RoadWarrior56]

I don't think the comparison to the VisionPro fits. The so-called iPhone Fold will be expensive for what it is, but it will likely be priced between $2000 and $2400 versus $3500, which is still considerably less money. Plus the "Fold" will still have more utility and be more of a conventional product than the VisionPro ever was, and will find a market, even if limited at first. The VisionPro is much more expensive, still an "experimental" product, and has limited utility IMO. The "Fold" will not sell nearly as well as any of the conventional iPhones, but it would no doubt sell much better than the VisionPro in its current incarnation. And I don't expect as high a return rate for the Fold as was the case with the VisionPro.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I don't think the comparison to the VisionPro fits. The so-called iPhone Fold will be expensive for what it is, but it will likely be priced between $2000 and $2400 versus $3500, which is still considerably less money. Plus the "Fold" will still have more utility and be more of a conventional product than the VisionPro ever was, and will find a market, even if limited at first. The VisionPro is much more expensive, still an "experimental" product, and has limited utility IMO. The "Fold" will not sell nearly as well as any of the conventional iPhones, but it would no doubt sell much better than the VisionPro in its current incarnation. And I don't expect as high a return rate for the Fold as was the case with the VisionPro.

I agree for one single reason.

This is still going to be an iPhone.

The biggest issue for AVP, and there are many, is "what is this thing useful for?".

That is not an issue with an iPhone.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I don't think the comparison to the VisionPro fits. The so-called iPhone Fold will be expensive for what it is, but it will likely be priced between $2000 and $2400 versus $3500, which is still considerably less money. Plus the "Fold" will still have more utility and be more of a conventional product than the VisionPro ever was, and will find a market, even if limited at first. The VisionPro is much more expensive, still an "experimental" product, and has limited utility IMO. The "Fold" will not sell nearly as well as any of the conventional iPhones, but it would no doubt sell much better than the VisionPro in its current incarnation. And I don't expect as high a return rate for the Fold as was the case with the VisionPro.

The fold will also have a traditional presence within carrier stores, the Vision Pro did not.
The fold will be available through trade-in programs and Instalment plans through carriers, the Vision Pro was not.
The fold is first and foremost a cell phone, the Vision Pro was not.
It’s a silly silly comparison.
It’s A bit like saying that no one would ever buy a $349 iPad because the $349 iPod Hi-fi also flopped. One product has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

 

[Hellokittystampmyfacein]

It’s like buying a car; when you drive it off the lot it loses 50% of its value.

So there’s gonna be like a Kelley blue book thing for phones now right?

 

[macpro2000]

I've spoken to many many patients on mine about whether they like their Android foldables. Seriously, every single person I've spoken to loves theirs. Now that being said, they also may have said that to justify their purchase, but their answers appear genuine. I don't think it's for me but this is going to be interesting how it plays out.