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Man, apple just keeps having flop after flop. Hate to say it, but I think the best of apple is behind us 😭
I don’t think this will be a flop. Picture an iPad mini that folds into an iPhone. With how thin the newest iPad Pros are, and with the advancement in foldable displays, this is exactly what would keep me with Apple. I do believe AAPL is greed focused. They treat everyone except shareholders like crap. But at the same time, they build good hardware. Lately to me the biggest flop is the software bugs. I get continuous bugs whether it be my iPhone, iPad, or Mac. And don’t get me started with how STUPID Siri has become since Apple Intelligence - it’s far worse than it was ten years ago. I do think the iPhone Air has some potential but only if the battery life is great as they need to use new battery tech not lithium batteries to get what it needs. Vision Pro is far ahead of its time but the overall weight makes it a pain to wear for any extended period of time. Why Apple should have focused on Meta-like smart AR glasses as that’s something that is possible now. Wasted money on Apple Car when they should have bought an AI company to build out Siri and Apple Intelligence. Someone said a few weeks ago that they need to rename Siri, and I thought they really screwed up calling it Apple Intelligence to see it flop so badly. There’s almost nothing useful about it and Siri has gotten so much worse since iOS 18. Definitely need new brass at the top that understand more than just running on Steve Jobs innovations. I really don’t think anything Apple has wasn’t on a roadmap from Steve or wasn’t copied from other companies like AI and folding iPhones.
 
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As someone who loved the Microsoft Surface Duo 2 but ended up selling when the writing was on the wall MS was abandoning it, I could not be more excited. This is going to be my next iPhone! (Currently holding onto the 14 Pro Max.
 
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I'm warming up to the idea of a foldable, but I'm still not going to buy a first gen. If Apple does a good job with the folding screen, and the crease isn't as visible as I've seen on Samsung phones, then I'd consider the 2nd or 3rd gen.
 
gives me major vision pro vibes. Expensive and no one is asking for it.
10 million people would like a word with you as of July 2022. Less than 3 years later, they sold 10 million in the first 11 months of 2024. Even with Samsung supposedly lowering its initial manufacturing target for the Fold/Flip 7 line, the revised numbers would put foldable units at about 9% of their total phone and tablet production for the month, or about 1.3 million units.

yes, correct. They likely start trial production but lot of the components, eg chips, are not even going to be ready in Q3/4 this year ...
another click-bait, this time Kuo. He gets better at that lately.
The irony is components are locked in a year or more ahead of mass production. Even if the production timeline Kuo is floating was correct, which it is not, that would mean the components were locked in about 9 months ago. He can't have it both ways.

And no one will buy it either, just like Vision Pro.
And yet they sold just as many as external observers thought they were going to sell. Surprisingly (he said, sarcastically) Ming Kuo claimed just over a year ago that Apple cut their Vision Pro order nearly in half (to 400k-450k), despite the fact that the only source for the larger number (750k-800k) was ... (wait for it) ... him. And the factory producing the displays was only capable of producing enough to cover 450k units in the first year, anyway!

So many people have ignored the fact Apple explicitly positioned the device as a small (for them) run aimed at developers, and continue to bang on about how it did so terribly. From everything I have seen, it did exactly as well as they expected. Which, sure, means it didn't set the world on fire in terms of unit sales, but you don't release a device where you are constrained to only producing 450k units in a year and expect it to immediately be the next iPhone.
 
Very interested in this. Will decide positively, when i really have it in hands and don't want to give it back! ;)

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First had this feeling when i had a Flip 5 for playing with and the owner wanted it back. 🤣
 
The irony is components are locked in a year or more ahead of mass production. Even if the production timeline Kuo is floating was correct, which it is not, that would mean the components were locked in about 9 months ago. He can't have it both ways.
No, they’re not. Even the size of the components has some wiggle room to change… and component suppliers are usually picked Dec/Jan timeframe for the upcoming iPhone
 
I seriously doubt they're starting production a year out.
Exactly this—I could see some kind of trial production for certain components like the hinge mechanism, but if it’s total system then Kuo is wrong about the release date or the specs.
 
Hopefully the rumors of the inner screen being more rectangular compared to most existing foldabes being squarish are true. Square screens aren't as useful for tablet use.

Although the rumored price will likely result in me continuing to use an iPhone + iPad Mini combo.
 
I am interested to see how it's going to work. Only because I have never liked the foldable phones. But knowing Apple, I am sure they have figured something out that will make it very appealing to a lot of people. I guess we will see!
 
Having owned a foldable Samsung in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing Apple's implementation of the technology. But the price, along with my limited daily SoT, will probably keep me from buying one.
 
Man, apple just keeps having flop after flop. Hate to say it, but I think the best of apple is behind us 😭
Totally disagree. Looking forward to the foldable iPhone, same for the iPhone Air. Love the iPad Pro 13 Nano. Could go on and on.
 
Have always been interested in the Galaxy Fold. Have a Galaxy Flip. Cannot wait for Apple to launch one. Might buy it!
 
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Damn if this is like passport style foldable this would be amazing for the people who liked the mini form factor. I just hope it's thin enough, might be a real upgrade after the iPhone X.
It will be slightly thicker folded than a Pro, wider than a Pro Max, but shorter than a mini, and will weigh something between the Pro and Pro Max. So the only thing “mini” about it is the shortness.
 
yes, correct. They likely start trial production but lot of the components, eg chips, are not even going to be ready in Q3/4 this year ...
another click-bait, this time Kuo. He gets better at that lately.
Kuo didn’t write that, it’s MacRumors who is click-baiting. Kuo writes that production is expected to start in 2H26. Always read the source.
 
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It isn’t even out yet or even announced. How is it a flop?
Technically, you're right. But even so, if they do release it, they are the latecomer. I miss the days of Apple leading. I am still happily entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, but pouring so much into a foldable seems like an un Apple move. Then again, I have only been an Apple fan since I bought my Mac 128k back in high school. I am probably misreading the situation.
 
Kuo didn’t write that, it’s MacRumors who is click-baiting. Kuo writes that production is expected to start in 2H26. Always read the source.
ouch, wasn't expecting that, that is just plain "bad reporting" by MR.
 
Technically, you're right. But even so, if they do release it, they are the latecomer. I miss the days of Apple leading. I am still happily entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, but pouring so much into a foldable seems like an un Apple move. Then again, I have only been an Apple fan since I bought my Mac 128k back in high school. I am probably misreading the situation.
Apple didn't release the first mp3 player, the first mobile phone, or the first tablet. They just did it better than the others. Just because they're late to foldables, doesn't mean it isn't gonna be good, or even better than the others. More times than not, Apple did best when it wasn't first.
 
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