That's why Ford sucks... That's why Ford almost bankrupt...
Actually Ford isn't almost bankrupt. They did not take the gov't handout that GM did. Ford is actually doing really well.
That's why Ford sucks... That's why Ford almost bankrupt...
I hope some of you never buy a car using these principles. You'd just be happy with your defective car huh? NO! You would want it to operate how it is suppose to and like the dealer said.
There won't be a hardware revision, simple as. You really think they would give away third party cases for free forever? They are only stopping it on Sept 30th because they release their financial stats so they can see just how much this has cost them.
I reckon they will update the hardware secrelty.
There is no evidence to say that the iP4 doesn't do what it is advertised to do. On the contrary, the stats shown are saying that it has lower levels of dropped calls than the previous versions, so going by that, why would Apple declare a full exchange/recall?
Makes absolutely no sense. People are buying this phone knowing it had a problem.
Those who didn't were then told that you got a free case or a full refund, and that applies until the 30th September. I honestly don't know what Apple could do more for these people, seems some just want to moan for the sake of it, no matter how many options they are given.
The rubber band bumpers cost them like ¢5 a piece. ASP Apple get for an iphone is over $600 so they should include all the five colors in each iphone sales package. That's what I thought they'd be doing after September after solving any sourcing problem they may initially have had. Of course they rather sell them for $29 a piece... Greed is good I guess.
The effect touching "the spot" is very real and demonstrated in just about all reviews I've read so far so no, it's not imagination of anyone. Thickheadedness of someone at Apple is amazing.
If they did secretly update the hardware after september 30th, they are effectively screwing their customers who were willing to upgrade as soon as it came out. Completely wrong. If it was a hardware defect - they should replace ALL iPhone 4's for free. Not just give out some plastic case.
"The more a small problem with your product turns into a press fiasco, the more it is a sign of your success." -- allegedly said by Henry Ford commenting on the 500,000th Model-T sold by Ford Motor Company.
That doesn't make any sense... "You knew we'd be selling a defect product for you", is Apple running some sort of bazaar shop?
Do people think things through when they say stuff like this.
Let us say the total cost for a bumper is $5.00. Including all 5 colors for each sales package would be $25 of extra cost to Apple. If they sell 10 million phones in a year that is a quarter of a billion dollars each year.
You think your solution is so easy and smart, but that is not how the world works, and what you propose is a horrible business solution to a seemingly minor issue that only impacts some customers.
The funny thing is as this period comes to an end, Apple still can't make phones fast enough to sell all the ones people want.
The product isn't defective. Defective would be part of the antenna falling off, or the glass getting stress fractures, or short circuiting batteries. Things like that.
The laws of physics are not a defect.
Glass getting stress fractures is not caused by laws of physics? Are you serious? You need to take those laws into consideration when you design a phone. If you don't, the result will be a defective product. Be the defect stress fractures or loss of antenna signal.
Rubber bands don't cost $5 a piece. ¢5 a piece is an overestimation. For 10m iphones a year that's less than 2.50m a year.
That's no excuse for being cheap. On the contrary.
Anyone who has had to replace a logic board or similar internal will find that the revision numbers are rarely the same (and often the board looks different in other more obvious ways). This may involve simple PCB rerouting or the use of slightly different peripheral chips. This is not unique to Apple, it happens in the auto industry, as well as many other consumer electronics manufacturers.
Issues come up, engineers re-design, and a revision is pushed to manufacturing. But, the iP4 antenna problem is such a hot-button issue that much more is being made of the supposed HW revision than any other time in recent memory.
Yeah, sucks for the customer when the carrier and manufacturer can just shift the blame, huh?![]()
Sony had about 5 internal revisions of their Fatty PS3 before finally changing the outside case.
"We now know that the iPhone 4 antenna attenuation issue is even smaller than we originally thought."
This IS the MOST critical sentence in this announcement. They are trying to make people believe that the problem is small and there is no reason not to buy an iPhone4.
Steve Jobs is a smart guy but we will see if this trick will work or not.
I personally will NOT buy an iPhone4 until they make a hardware change or release the iPhone5 which I believe if this last trick does not work, they will either make less money from iPhone4 or they will release something new soon.
That doesn't explain them ending the 30-day return guarantee. That's actually the part that worries me the most; if I buy an iPhone 4 and find it does have the grip-of-death, I will have to pay $30 to return the thing. That is STUPID, as such an issue is a defect and should allow a free return.![]()
If you don't like it, take it back. If you don't like the solution to the problem, get a refund.
The "Antenna-Gate" problems largely seem like AT&T Problems, as Australian and French press have already said - and My experience here in Canada on Rogers confirms. I have yet to see anyone of my friends (most of whom have iPhone 4's) have any signal problems here in Canada.
Which is probably what most people did... and it's costing Apple Money and they're gonna stop it. If you call Applecare with a problem - they'll still give you a free bumper if you whine hard enough, I'm sure.
When have they replaced hardware internals "secretly" on their computers mid-cycle without announcing it? I've never heard of this before with MacBooks/iBooks/PowerBooks/etc...?
This sounds like an AT&T issue - not an iPhone 4 issue.
The product isn't defective. Defective would be part of the antenna falling off, or the glass getting stress fractures, or short circuiting batteries. Things like that.
The laws of physics are not a defect.
The "Antenna-Gate" problems largely seem like AT&T Problems, as Australian and French press have already said .
It doesn't work as intended. It is therefore defective.
Apple may use different chips inside their MacBooks, but that's 'cause they source them from different suppliers. Like the Screens inside are LG's, Samsungs, AU Optronics, etc... This isn't some secret upgrades Apple's putting it - it's just them sourcing parts for different OEMs to make their products.