If people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
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Apple's future IS the iPad
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Did you not realize I wrote the question tongue-in-cheek?
Given how silly one question was ('If tablets are the future, why does Apple currently sell tablets and PCs?') I figured it was open season on posting questions without even thinking about them first.
You just completely reworded the whole question. That wasn't my question. My question was: If the tablet will replace the PC, why does Apple sell tablets and PC's at the same time?
The iPad was never pushed as a post PC device or a PC replacement. But for the fun of it, I'd like to see a group of CGI artists and graphic designers developing the latest video game and Hollywood special effects all on a bunch of iPads.
That would be very entertaining.
As stated in your question, "will replace," not "have replaced." Since tablets haven't replaced PCs yet, there is no contradiction in Apple still selling PCs, even if they believe tablets are the future.
Also, I believe Steve Jobs compared PCs to trucks, and tablets to cars. He said that just like most people nowadays have no need for trucks, but use cars, he thought most people would come to use tablets instead of PCs. But like some people always need trucks, some people would always need a full desktop. So Steve Jobs never said PCs will go away completely, just that most people would come to just use tablets.
Oh yes, a thousand pardons, my goodness, the words I put in your mouth, such a distortion of what you said - why, it's as though all the good things which should have been taken seriously about your posts were never even there in the first place!
"If the tablet will replace the PC, why does Apple sell tablets and PC's at the same time?"
1) Because the present (Apple currently sells tablets and PCs) and the future (tablets will replace PCs) are not the same time. I thought this was common knowledge.
2) Because 'tablets' can replace PCs even if the current iPad doesn't replace PCs.
3) Because 'replace' is meaningful in the context of this thread, and means something like 'will eventually do what most consumers currently use their PCs for'.
4) Because Apple can sell multiple products even if one ends up occupying the space the former had taken, because of shifting markets.
EDIT: For the record, the original question doesn't differ materially from my paraphrase, and remains as ridiculous as ever. It could have been prevented with the slightest bit of reflection.
By the time the iPad becomes something other than an iPad, we will have long forgotten about this conversation.
I'm starting to see an overlap in the creation of technology. An iPad to a PC and back again, that's like going in circles.
The iPad is not a PC, it's just not.
I'm starting to see an overlap in the creation of technology. An iPad to a PC and back again, that's like going in circles.
The iPad is not a PC, it's just not.
1) Post something vague, silly, and inflammatory
2) Respond only to the least substantive points made by others
3) When the claim in question has been demolished, ignore it and return to #1
EDIT (For content): If the form and interface of computers goes in circles, that would be interesting, and would suggest that various interfaces cyclically replace each other. Why, that would even fit with the premise of the thread. But apparently the iPad is just not a PC. This is somehow relevant!
2) Respond only to the least substantive points made by others
3) When the claim in question has been demolished, ignore it and return to #1
EDIT (For content): If the form and interface of computers goes in circles, that would be interesting, and would suggest that various interfaces cyclically replace each other. Why, that would even fit with the premise of the thread. But apparently the iPad is just not a PC. This is somehow relevant!
Why are you so angry?
Am I the only one that doesn't see that the PC is already evolutionarily better than the iPad? Pause. In a way. It would have to climb up to get to the point where the PC is.
At the same time, people seem to want the PC to downgrade to the iPad...
That's how I see it..
I would have thought that if Apple wanted the public to think that the iPad was like a PC, they would've made it more obvious.
Am I the only one that doesn't see that the PC is already evolutionarily better than the iPad? Pause. In a way. It would have to climb up to get to the point where the PC is.
At the same time, people seem to want the PC to downgrade to the iPad...
That's how I see it..
I would have thought that if Apple wanted the public to think that the iPad was like a PC, they would've made it more obvious.
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I forgot point #4
4) when someone lays bare your antagonistic posting habits, making it impossible to continue them without it being obvious, make a sensible post for plausible deniability until you go back to #1
(The baiting 'why are you so angry' was a nice touch, btw)
EDIT: For anyone reading the thread, motoleo had written an extended response to my post that appeared to be done in good faith. He then edited it out again.
4) when someone lays bare your antagonistic posting habits, making it impossible to continue them without it being obvious, make a sensible post for plausible deniability until you go back to #1
(The baiting 'why are you so angry' was a nice touch, btw)
EDIT: For anyone reading the thread, motoleo had written an extended response to my post that appeared to be done in good faith. He then edited it out again.
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I do see what you mean, but that's because Apple decided to write a touch-based UI from scratch. Yes, PCs are currently in many ways more evolved than the iPad, because they have a history of... let's see, from the original Macintosh, nearly 30 years of developing how to do things with a keyboard and a mouse. Now, we are trying to figure out how to do the same things with a multi-touch UI.
So in a way, yes, the iPad do have to catch up to the PC on a lot of things. But then, it also opens up possibilities that the PC doesn't have. Most of all, it's much more portable. You can do things like pinch to zoom that you couldn't do with a mouse. And Apple is trying to bring those gestures back to the PC with their multi-touch trackpads, but personally, I find that multi-touch on trackpads just don't work as smoothly as on a touch tablet.
Not really downgrading, just trying to make things simpler. Or just finding something neat about the touch UI (like pinch to zoom that I mentioned above), and trying to add that to the desktop. Doesn't always quite work, but I'm afraid it's going to take people a while to figure out which things they can take from the iPad and bring back to the PC and make it work well, and which things just can't be adapted to the desktop.
I don't think they want people to think the iPad is like a PC -- one thing doesn't have to be exactly like another to replace it. For example, cars aren't like horses, but they replaced horses anyway.
You got close to this once, but all your other posts make it look like you think the iPad will never and can never change. The PC has had decades to get to where it is now, and it's gotten progressively more capable as time has passed. The iPad isn't even two years old yet, so naturally it won't be as capable as a current PC. It'll keep getting better and more capable though.
People don't want the PC to turn into the iPad, they want the iPad to continue becoming more powerful. Just because Apple only updates the iPad once a year doesn't mean it won't keep getting more capable and usable.
It's just that this is the same discussion and pessimism we had before laptops became popular (e.g. "desktop replacement or not?").
Today even the cheap laptops are more or less sledgehammers in regards to what "most" people use their computer for. The power of a "simple" C2D CPU is far more than is needed for spreadsheets/media consumption/mail/web.
But this versatility actually affects the usability and makes the experience less intuitive. The interface of most (all?) desktop OSs could be re-thought in many areas. We're seeing some of that happening with more recent releases but it's really mobile devices that spearhead these ideas. Why? Because again, it has become vital to work with constraints a bit more extreme than for desktops/laptops. Either as in limited computational power (optimization) to gain battery life or as in the actual physical, and diminutive, size (including the screen) of these devices.
Constraints and perceived limitations do wonders for creativity.
So the difference today compared to the laptop/desktop discussions of old, is that interface is starting to take front seat. Lose power for mobility and some versatility to create a more instant and intuitive interface.
Some (few, perhaps) of us are actually prepared to lose some versatility in one area to gain some in others, e.g. mobility, battery and in many instances a less cluttered interface/user experience.
As stupid as it might sound to you I am actually contemplating getting either a MBA 11" or an iPad (upcoming version). That is, the one I get will be my main, and only, device. One is as versatile as any computer and the other, well, that depends on the user.
Personally I need better academic writing tools/apps so a jailbreak would be necessary (and I realize that is saying it's not quite there for me yet).
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The future main computer in the entire Apple line is and will be the iPad. The MacOSX devices will exist purely for business & educational needs and developers. Not for general consumers.
The iPad is the successor to the Macintosh in every possible way.
The iPad is the successor to the Macintosh in every possible way.
I think the laptop will completely replace desktops soon. And I think eventually the iPad will be a strong companion to that. Much stronger than it is today.