And majority of Windows platform doesn't lie either. 90% to 5% buddy.
I like Apple alot, but I don't worship them- bow down and kiss feet. I'm out to get the latest and greatest, whatever it is.
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And majority of Windows platform doesn't lie either. 90% to 5% buddy.
I like Apple alot, but I don't worship them- bow down and kiss feet. I'm out to get the latest and greatest, whatever it is.
Bit hostile! You will see trends from the general consumer to follow the most "popular" products, but at the moment that seems to mostly be anything Apple! Apple does not have the PC market in terms of percentages no, but that isn't everything. I saw an article where HP is letting a pilot test of (IIRC) 1,000 employees use Apple iMacs at work to replace their Windows computers. Evidence enough for me that the market is changing, even in enterprise.
What does Windows have to do with tablets? It's a *desktop* platform. Yes, Microsoft is working on Windows 8, but whether or not that is successful, as either a desktop or a tablet platform, we won't know until it is released. Yes, let's not just worship whatever Apple does, but let's not automatically assume that Windows will continue to be dominant just because Microsoft wishes it so, either.
The PC (the old Wintel structure) market is in decline. The market is trending heavily against Windows on "computers." MS has everything riding on tablets. And so they should.
http://thesmallwave.com/apple-vs-pc-shipments-pc-decline-worse-than-r
I guess in a few more years, we'll be seeing model divisions within the iPad family... Introducing the iPad Air, iPad and iPad Pro...
AND, I have this gut feeling that in a few more years, maybe 5, we'll be looking up this good old thread via souped-up iPads and reminiscing how we used to post replies via our Macs and PCs... Maybe it's just wistful thinking on my part
AND, I have this gut feeling that in a few more years, maybe 5, we'll be looking up this good old thread via souped-up iPads and reminiscing how we used to post replies via our Macs and PCs... Maybe it's just wistful thinking on my part
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Well here's a thought. 115+ million iPads sold. Maybe make that closing on 200 million after ipad3 comes out.
That must be a fair amount of the market for tablets if what you say is true. Most early adopters will have one. Sure there'll be people who refuse to buy Apple but a fair amount of them will have gone Android.
So let's say the first Windows 8 tablets start hitting shops in summer. If you're suggesting that W8 tablets will clean the floor, then they need to go from a standing start to 10s million units per month to massively eclipse iPad sales and head towards the Apple/Pc market share situation. Where are all these users going to come from if tablets are useless?
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Well here's a thought. 115+ million iPads sold. Maybe make that closing on 200 million after ipad3 comes out.
That must be a fair amount of the market for tablets if what you say is true. Most early adopters will have one. Sure there'll be people who refuse to buy Apple but a fair amount of them will have gone Android.
So let's say the first Windows 8 tablets start hitting shops in summer. If you're suggesting that W8 tablets will clean the floor, then they need to go from a standing start to 10s million units per month to massively eclipse iPad sales and head towards the Apple/Pc market share situation. Where are all these users going to come from if tablets are useless?
Looking at the current tablet market share, the iPad commands a hefty share of the tablet market. I would rather see a WebOS tablet that comes into fruition than seeing Playbooks and Windows Tablets flooding the market. At least WebOS seems to be a more polished and up-to-scratch product that is close to iOS.
If the ipad is being lambasted for not being suitable for "serious work", then what is it about a windows tablet that makes it any better? Stuff like multitasking all need serious battery juice, so it is not so straightforward as just removing a keyboard from a laptop???
All that tells me is that alot of people use Windows, and little about its true qualities over other systems.
Thanks to developers there is a lot of software available for Windows, and having picked one business system just to change for another (e.g. going from Win to Mac OS for example) comes at huge expenses.
People watch bad movies in troves, that doesn't really mean the Transformers movies compare well to Bergman. Otherwise you'd have to further contextualize the numbers. [EDIT] You could of course say the same for iPads but there's a huge difference in comparing an established OS, that goes back decennia, to a two year old product that's taken the computer world with storm. [/EDIT]
At first, I was honestly intrigued by the interface of Windows 8 (Verge walkthrough) since it seemed like Microsoft tried going in new directions with Metro. Then they slapped the old desktop in together with the Metro interface and the warning bells went off.
IMO, it's absolutely horrible practice to use two interface paradigms within one product. Then I decided to give MS the benfit of the doubt, since when Win 8 arrives there will be alot of legacy software that doesn't make use of the new interface.
Then I see this (direct link to the Win 8 explorer image).
I kid you not, I thought it was all a joke. Slapping everything and the kitchen sink onto a graphical interface is one of the worst possible ways to go about it. It's a mess, bad information architecture. I don't give a flying fart about their statistics that led them down that dark road.
I remember my Windows PDAs, where they had literally shoehorned a desktop OS interface into the area of a 3-4" screen, including nested pop-up menus [Just so I'm clear: its UI was horrible and slow]. It was a versatile device I give you that, but I had very little interest in doing anything versatile with it, and for some reason I had a few (why, I don't know).
Luckily (well good for MS, I mean), Windows Phone seems far better than that but I can not see myself getting a Windows machine for a foreseeable time, if ever.
And why should I? I'm happy with my current choice: my Mac. And I'll be just as happy with my iPad when I get one.
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Well, I never cut myself off from the possibility of having a newer or different technology. Microsoft and Apple have been looking over each other's shoulders and piggybacking for the longest time.
The user ultimately makes the decision about what is right for them.
I don't base my purchases on sales figures. Some people do, I choose the one that works better.
In 2010-2011, anyone who bought a tablet bought iPad, it's the only one there is. Lol
The user ultimately makes the decision about what is right for them.
I don't base my purchases on sales figures. Some people do, I choose the one that works better.
In 2010-2011, anyone who bought a tablet bought iPad, it's the only one there is. Lol
I beg to differ ... http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/oct11/10-20fy12Q1earningsPR.mspx
Revenue from Windows related products increased by 2%. You shouldn't forget that there's a global recession, which had little effect on sale numbers of products with premium price tags, like macs. Although there's a clear decline (this quarter), the 'Wintel structure' is far from abolished. Besides, who knows what will happen with WARM
I beg to differ ... http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/oct11/10-20fy12Q1earningsPR.mspx
Revenue from Windows related products increased by 2%. You shouldn't forget that there's a global recession, which had little effect on sale numbers of products with premium price tags, like macs. Although there's a clear decline (this quarter), the 'Wintel structure' is far from abolished. Besides, who knows what will happen with WARM
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. Macs are being integrated at enterprise levels in smaller numbers, but they still don't integrate well. It's more likely that we'll see a migration back toward thin clients in that market with the rise of virtualization.Also this is a complete troll topic. The whole premise is that Apple's future hinges on a single product. I'm glad the OP doesn't run Apple.
I absolutely agree! I have 2 iPads and a desktop - the latter is the last addition to my consumer electronics collection. iPad 2 is nice, it's my daily compenion. When it comes to gaming though, there is nothing comprable to a Windows machine. I hope I don't step on anyone's toes here, but if you want to take gaming to a higher level, Mac is not the answer. Upgradability, availability of games, just to name two, are limiting the Apple world on that. I am not talking about the number of games - the i-devices can clearly compete. I am talking about games otherwise bound to consoles like Assassine's Creed or hits like WoT and all the 1st person shooters. Sure, Rage looks nice on the iPad. It is still not comparable to Just Cause 2 etc.
There might be some who say that the PC is dead. Some thought the same of the Mac. With all offices stuffed with desktops (for a reason), it is not dead, yet, and it will not die anytime soon.
I think there is space for both - the PC and the tablet. If you argue that the tablet will replace the PC, you might as well argue that it will replace the phone. That doesn't happen either. For me, that would be more logical: I have my iPad everywhere like I do my phone and with Skype or Viber on it, it has the capacities of a phone...
The future ending when? Seriously, when the PC came out: they probably said: this thing is the future, it will be replacing the abacus all over the world. Now we're discussing the tablet replacing the PC. The future is a very limited concept in this case. I think the tablet market will surpass that of the PC somewhere in the very near future, but I also see it being replaced by something better in 10 years time. I fear the tablet will suffer the same fate as the netbook.
I completely disagree. I think Apple sees the tablet as the future of computers in a sense. 5 years from now tablets will be MUCH bigger than they are today. Tim Cook believes it too.
Which one is it do you or do you not have a iPad because on page 2 you said that you returned it after you got it.
Personally I think you are just trolling.
The second time I said I had one, I meant that I have one in my hands. My sister has an iPad. I use it quite frequently, but I would never buy one for myself and keep it.
So there's the iPad I purchased and then returned. And the iPad my sister has that I use sometimes.
Who has time to sit around and troll?
So there's the iPad I purchased and then returned. And the iPad my sister has that I use sometimes.
Who has time to sit around and troll?
I think the point is that projecting out just as desktops have pretty much been replaced MOSTLY by Laptops, the same thing could happen from tablets.
Because the substitution of laptops for desktop systems has depended upon significant increases in the power of laptops and the capability to replace a two foot tall cpu with a much smaller unit that drives multiple monitors, has multiple resizable windows, employs the same OS as a desktop running all the same software, and supports the same range of peripherals as a desktop system.
Can tablets morph into devices that provide all those capabilities? Of course. But when they do they'll no longer be the devices we call "tablets" today. At best, they'll be small form factor cpu's with a touch screen capabilities. And while that may be an advantage in some environments, it's hardly an advantage when the "tablet" is running a 23" monitor placed 32-36 inches away from a user.
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