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That's the current location of the current Apple Store in Santa Monica. They are not building a new one, simply renovating the existing one. That only makes sense.
 
It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...

Welcome to the world. ;) Money talks **** walks.... it will be the end of us someday... (that said, that apple store looks pretty cool:p)
 
Of cause it was auto-approved.
Apple say jump and the world says how high.
The only ones who do not are the combatants of the patent wars.

Everyone sees Apple's $76 billion war chest and trembles. It's Apple's world and we're all just allowed/tolerated to live in it.
 
What about earthquake regs?

The structure has to meet CA/SM building codes. Note that 63 people died in the magnitude 6.9 Loma Prieta earthquake near San Francisco, while about 100,000 died in the 7.0 Haiti earthquake of 2010 and 26,000 in the 2003 Bam earthquake. California building codes are responsible for much of that difference in mortality (and the codes are constantly updated based on studies of failures - due to the Loma Prieta and Northridge earthquakes many changes were made to the codes).

While the mockup drawings make it look like the UWS store adjusted to fit into a true rectangle, I would expect that the actual engineering will be quite a bit different from the Manhattan store.

For one, the Manhattan store has to be built to handle 8 feet of wet snow on the glass roof (according to a post on the 5th Avenue Cube V2 thread) - not an issue in SoCal. In SM, the focus will be on making the building flexible - so that as a seismic wave moves through the building different parts can move in different directions at the same time, without failing.
 
The structure has to meet CA/SM building codes. Note that 63 people died in the magnitude 6.9 Loma Prieta earthquake near San Francisco, while about 100,000 died in the 7.0 Haiti earthquake of 2010 and 26,000 in the 2003 Bam earthquake. California building codes are responsible for much of that difference in mortality (and the codes are constantly updated based on studies of failures - due to the Loma Prieta and Northridge earthquakes many changes were made to the codes).

While the mockup drawings make it look like the UWS store adjusted to fit into a true rectangle, I would expect that the actual engineering will be quite a bit different from the Manhattan store.

For one, the Manhattan store has to be built to handle 8 feet of wet snow on the glass roof (according to a post on the 5th Avenue Cube V2 thread) - not an issue in SoCal. In SM, the focus will be on making the building flexible - so that as a seismic wave moves through the building different parts can move in different directions at the same time, without failing.

I just don't see how a building with a glass roof can be safe in an earthquake.
 
I like it a lot. If there's anyone that can make a huge glass structure work, it's Apple. I'm sure it'll even exceed earthquake standards.
 
Apple store?

I think the article mixed up the mock up pics. This is obviously a Microsoft store and not an Apple store. Only a handful of customers inside and milling about outside.

And as far as earthquakes go, they wouldn't DARE touch an Apple store. Steve won't have it.
 
I just don't see how a building with a glass roof can be safe in an earthquake.

Well glass can be mad very strong.

Also the glass is not required to survive the earth quake as long as it breaks into pieces no bigger than about a quarter. What is required not to fail is the frame and the structure. The glass is not required to be part of the structure as long as if it comes out of the frame it comes out in broken pieces.
 
Actually, they should open a Apple store under the Louvre Pyramid, they got enough money to buy it :p

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Great idea, but Apple already built an Apple Store under the Louvre Pyramid. You'll be getting your patent infringement in the mail soon. :rolleyes:
 

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What I find notable, and slightly depressing, is that this Apple Store is replacing a Boarders. Books are old hat, it seems. Out with the paper in with the tablets.

Of course, I myself on a Kindle and an iPad, so perhaps I'm being hypocritical. I'm not even saying this is a bad thing, though. Progress is progress. But I still think it's sad.
 
Well glass can be mad very strong.

Also the glass is not required to survive the earth quake as long as it breaks into pieces no bigger than about a quarter. What is required not to fail is the frame and the structure. The glass is not required to be part of the structure as long as if it comes out of the frame it comes out in broken pieces.

Tons of glass raining down from a substantial height can still be deadly, even if the pieces are small.
 
I thought Apple cared about the environment. This is going to cause a huge amount of light pollution as the illumination from the brightly lit interior spills straight up through the roof and into the night sky. Unless Apple has incorporated self-polarizing glass to block light from passing out at night, I'd call this a bad idea, and especially seeing as how the planning commission approved it without discussion.
 
Glass Roof = Green House = Hot House

It may look nice, but its functionality may be a problem. Why?

Glass Roof = Green House = Hot House

Its probably going to cost a fortune to cool that place and those fans could potentially be loud.

Not to mention the damage caused from an earthquake.
 
What I find notable, and slightly depressing, is that this Apple Store is replacing a Boarders. Books are old hat, it seems. Out with the paper in with the tablets.

Don't declare the book dead just because mega sellers are all in trouble. Extinctions often create unexpected and interesting openings for other "species" that were getting pushed down by the dominant form of life. Take indie vinyl record stores as an example. They were more or less made irrelevant by chain retail music sellers that were in every mall and many street corners.

Eventually their size and reach became a liability and indie record sellers who had much lower overheads and a product that could not be downloaded were once again able to survive.

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I thought Apple cared about the environment. This is going to cause a huge amount of light pollution as the illumination from the brightly lit interior spills straight up through the roof and into the night sky.

Santa Monica already has an outdoor beachside amusement park not to mention lots of other stuff that would shed a lot of light. I don't think this is going to make or break anything.

If it were someplace where there were major observatories nearby, I'm sure there'll be a lot of hell being raised about that roof though.
 
You obviously didn't read my post in the other thread. I have lived in Southern California for 44 of my 44 years including 11 in the OC. I think I know what I'm talking about. But since you say temperatures greater than 80F are a common occurrence in OC, you've proven my point even further given that the Crystal Cathedral, where summertime mid-day temps are at least 10 degrees on average higher than they are in Santa Monica, has no air conditioning. Then I think it's safe to say that if they chose not to install an artificial cooling system within the store, they would probably do just fine.

Each time I have worshiped in the Crystal Cathedral, it has been in the middle of summer in the middle of the day with approximate 1,500 fellow worshipers, and each time I have felt quite comfortable.

Next time read BEFORE you speak.

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I will give you a slight break. My sentence about how it rarely gets above 80F may have been a bit ambiguous. My intention was to refer to how it rarely gets above 80 degrees on 3rd Street in Santa Monica. But given that Garden Grove is in western OC, and not in a valley, it does get a direct breeze off the ocean much like most of the cities in Los Angeles Basin that have no land mass obstruction, temps don't get much above 80F there either. I'm not sure where you live, but I grew up in the South Bay about 5 or 6 miles east of the coast (about the same distance the Crystal Cathedral is from the coast) and we never had air conditioning and we were blessed with temperate breezes almost every day.


Haha, I'm still laughing. I've lived here all my life. As I said 80 degrees is common. Now go google the history of OC weather to prove me wrong. :rolleyes:
 
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