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And how are Apple responding? They’re ramping up planned obsolescence techniques like never before to ‘force’ users to ungrade.

My 2 year old phone isn’t just suffering from lag, stutter, unresponsiveness - it’s clearly limited to 1 charge cycle per day. Going over that and it simply won’t charge, and if you keep using it the battery level declines whilst charging. Just search and see how many people are encountering this. Once you get into the next days ‘allowance’, it charges fully.
LOL! My iPhone 12 mini is doing just fine. Maybe it’s a YOU problem?
 
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maybe in global markets like US and europe but chinese brands are making phones interesting at last with far superior hardware.
US and EU markets are being protected. If they weren’t the Chinese phones would rule. It took Huawei less than two years to get a bigger marketshare than Apple before it got banned.

Apple just can’t keep up with them and really has to sacrifice big on price if they would do.

Not in Timmy’s playbook. It’s peak iPhone in China already and my guess is that it’s peak iPhone in the EU soon after that.
 
Not the lack of Apple intelligence. Even in USA is not the driving factor to buy and iPhone. The reasons include OPEN market and the users having the choice of many brands and many more innovative makers!.
Apple is boooooring!!!!!!
Nothing new to the table since 5 years ago or more. Same battery duration since years and years ago despite “improvements in CPU and baytery”. No foldable. Even the phone app is rubish!.
Apple deserves to go down because its own pride!
 
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iPhones are boring. It’s just a tool now. The smaller scrappier companies willing to take chances are going to garner more interest. It can’t always be about pleasing the stock holders.
Unfortunately, it actually can always be about pleasing stockholders.
Don't worry, folks: the system is working exactly as designed.
 
Things missing on Apple side which Androids do well

1. Missing access to file system. It's incredibly hard to move a file to/from an iOS device to a PC. Apple makes you jump through hoops for this simple thing
2. Still not allowing sideloading ipa files except EU. Let user take full responsibility for it but have some safeguards in place like Android.
3. No foldable phones
4. Better screens comparable to top Androids like S24 Ultra
5. Still stuck on 60hz refresh rate on basic iPhones.
6. No HD-Audio/ATMOS support in iOS/TVOS yet. No passthrough
7. Still limiting USB-C speed and power on iPhones so majority of external SSDs are incompatible.
8. Poor Cellular and Wifi performance compared to top Androids.
9. Stale 5 yr old designs for most of their devices compared to Chinese Androids.
Couple of points/questions:

3. nobody wants foldable phones. The market for them is tiny. You just don't see them around. Probably because the tech really isn't there yet and they don't add any value.
4 & 5. on this, you pay your money. Basic androids are also stuck on 60hz
6. unless I misunderstood you, there is pass thru (ARC) on tvOS -- I use it all the time.

Thank you.
 
Maybe Apple should fix the many bugs in iOS. For me, iOS 18 on my iPhone 15 Pro is the most buggy experience I have ever had. I'm in "lets reboot my iPhone like it's a Windows machine and hope it fixes lag, unresponiveness, CarPlay connectivity issues, crashing apps, ..."
 
Maybe Apple should fix the many bugs in iOS. For me, iOS 18 on my iPhone 15 Pro is the most buggy experience I have ever had. I'm in "lets reboot my iPhone like it's a Windows machine and hope it fixes lag, unresponiveness, CarPlay connectivity issues, crashing apps, ..."
This is the one thing which shocked me the most when I was switching from Galaxy to Iphone last year! The amount of bugs or glitches! Incredible, and people defend useless forced decisions from Apple until they got overtaken some years later because of “innovation”.
 
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No way -- Strong disagree with you guys...

If iPhone drops substantially it materially impacts nearly all other revenue streams

It's a house of cards from that standpoint

I'm just spitballing here... But I suspect Apple has tons of *real data* (instead of mere forum conjecture) and incredibly smart managers with decades of *real experience* that are on top of product revenue streams and know how/if they are interrelated, and who their competitors are. That's why they make the big bucks. No need to worry.

Apple's continual massive success with 1+ Billion repeat customers supports the above.
 
Smartphones are boring, across the board; it's not limited to Apple.

It's mature tech and a saturated market. Buying a new phone today, from any company, is about as exciting as buying new tires. You're happy to have it, but don't care enough to talk about it or think about it after fact.
I would agree that smartphones are mature and in the end it is a rectangular slab of different sizes.
And I would agree that 80%+ of all users don’t care about “advanced” features, a phone does what they need a phone for.

Of course there are the usual ones here on MR who think different but they are not representative of the user base.
 
Your “opinion” is not borne out in a legal sense. Which is all that counts.
It’s amazing the number of people that don’t even feel the need to even look up the definition of “monopoly” before using it… such confidence! :)
 
It’s amazing the number of people that don’t even feel the need to even look up the definition of “monopoly” before using it… such confidence! :)

I'm well aware of the definition. An economic monopoly means one. A legal monopoly can be anything above 50%, according to US federal courts and the DOJ.

There's more than one definition.
 
US and EU markets are being protected. If they weren’t the Chinese phones would rule. It took Huawei less than two years to get a bigger marketshare than Apple before it got banned.

Apple just can’t keep up with them and really has to sacrifice big on price if they would do.

Not in Timmy’s playbook. It’s peak iPhone in China already and my guess is that it’s peak iPhone in the EU soon after that.

Agreed

Look at the massive great reviews the Vivo 200 pro has got for example. Many finally have seen the light regarding these devices
 
Things missing on Apple side which Androids do well

1. Missing access to file system. It's incredibly hard to move a file to/from an iOS device to a PC. Apple makes you jump through hoops for this simple thing
2. Still not allowing sideloading ipa files except EU. Let user take full responsibility for it but have some safeguards in place like Android.
3. No foldable phones
4. Better screens comparable to top Androids like S24 Ultra
5. Still stuck on 60hz refresh rate on basic iPhones.
6. No HD-Audio/ATMOS support in iOS/TVOS yet. No passthrough
7. Still limiting USB-C speed and power on iPhones so majority of external SSDs are incompatible.
8. Poor Cellular and Wifi performance compared to top Androids.
9. Stale 5 yr old designs for most of their devices compared to Chinese Androids.
I'll just pick a few, because the rest are waffle.....
1) iCloud can be accessed from any PC and files system has existed on an iPhone for a long time, that's hardly jumping through hoops
3) iPhone 15 & 16 Pro's supports 10gb transfer speeds, s24 Ultra supports transfer speeds of 480mbps 🤣
9) The design is so stale, that both Samsung and Google (not to mention loads of Android manufacturers) just blatantly copied it 🤣
 
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Couple of points/questions:

3. nobody wants foldable phones. The market for them is tiny. You just don't see them around. Probably because the tech really isn't there yet and they don't add any value.
4 & 5. on this, you pay your money. Basic androids are also stuck on 60hz
6. unless I misunderstood you, there is pass thru (ARC) on tvOS -- I use it all the time.

Thank you.

Just because they don’t have high market share doesn’t mean they hold no value.

Foldables add plenty of value. Having a tablet size in your pocket is great to have for better viewing and media content. Now the tech is that good from certain brands that cameras on Vivo fold is better than most slab phones including the iPhone now. While having great charging speeds and massive batteries. Cost is high but it will be for a phone and tablet experience
 
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Try searching Google for “iPhone won’t charge past %” or “iPhone battery declines whilst charging”. You’ll see the ‘issue’ isn’t limited.

I use my phone a lot for streaming music though, so users who don’t use the phone much may never encounter the charge cycle limit.

There’s so many other techniques too - battery health declines rapidly on newer phones now to prompt users to upgrade. Other things like the software introduced screen flicker as the phone comes on, etc etc. it’s disappointing from a brand that charges a premium price.

I’m a huge Apple fan, and have items from almost all their product lines, but I’m done with the brand now sadly.

Apple are pushing hard with these tricks to make up for the sales decline in China basically.
I would suggest you have it fixed, because that is not a thing with iPhones!
 
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LOL! My iPhone 12 mini is doing just fine. Maybe it’s a YOU problem?
Yup, I have a spare 8 and 13 mini kicking around, and my wife is still on a 13 mini, all of them charge as many times/day as needed just fine. Also if Apple were to do this ever they’d get absolutely raked over the coals by the EU at the very least, not to mention it’d be *major* news, over half the US alone uses an iPhone, most are still a couple gens back. It’s not happening, and not going to happen, the dude claiming this is either trolling or has a seriously defective phone
 
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It’s really about time that Tim Cook steps down and lets someone step up to the plate. Whether it’s wining and dining British royalty, or constantly flying to China to bend the knee, things are truly getting out of hand at Apple under Tim’s watch. Truly sad to see iPhone sales getting left in the dust!
 
Apple has a 58%, and growing, market share in the US while their closest competitor, Samsung, has 23%.

Yes they do have a monopoly.
A true monopoly is an enterprise that is the only seller of a good or service. In the absence of government intervention, a monopoly is free to set any price it chooses and will usually set the price that yields the largest possible profit.
Apple has no such position in any market!
BTW Samsung has a 75% share in Korea and even that's not a monopoly!
 
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US and EU markets are being protected. If they weren’t the Chinese phones would rule. It took Huawei less than two years to get a bigger marketshare than Apple before it got banned.

Apple just can’t keep up with them and really has to sacrifice big on price if they would do.

Not in Timmy’s playbook. It’s peak iPhone in China already and my guess is that it’s peak iPhone in the EU soon after that.
Hmmm and then Apple do their quarterly earnings 🤣
 
I would suggest you have it fixed, because that is not a thing with iPhones!

Sadly it is ‘a thing’ with iPhones. It’s unbelievable that some people think big corporations like Apple are their friend, and they are out to save the planet and try and ensure their products last as long as possible so people don’t need to buy a new one.

They are ultimately driven by one thing. Profit. Stockholders and investors want to see continued profit growth year-on-year, and Apple will do whatever it takes to ensure this happens.
 
A true monopoly is an enterprise that is the only seller of a good or service. In the absence of government intervention, a monopoly is free to set any price it chooses and will usually set the price that yields the largest possible profit.
Apple has no such position in any market!
BTW Samsung has a 75% share in Korea and even that's not a monopoly!

Apple is currently being sued for monopolistic practices in the US by the DOJ. A legal monopoly, under the Sherman act, can be anything over 50% according to multiple federal courts and the DOJ. A legal monopoly and an economic monopoly, as you are referring to, are not the same.

Google is currently a convicted monopolist, as was Microsoft. Neither were ever the only provider of the goods and services in their respective market.
 
Times change. Ten years ago if I went out with all my friends or colleagues, pretty much all of them would be using iPhones. Now most will use flagship Android phones and will say how good the camera is or they are more feature packed to use. Im sticking with iPhone myself as I have a 16 Pro Max and an Apple Watch Series 10, so not interested in changing all that personally, but I’ve seen a big shift in recent years with my circles. It’s not down to affordability as most if these Android devices cost the same or more than iPhones, but the deals are much better from what I’ve seen. Apples artificial intelligence features are quite weak and few and far between as it’s early days, but that alone isn’t going to sell iPhones and I’m sure this isn’t a surprise to Apple, or at least I hope it isn’t.
 
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Couple of points/questions:

3. nobody wants foldable phones. The market for them is tiny. You just don't see them around. Probably because the tech really isn't there yet and they don't add any value.
4 & 5. on this, you pay your money. Basic androids are also stuck on 60hz
6. unless I misunderstood you, there is pass thru (ARC) on tvOS -- I use it all the time.

Thank you.
really? not even the ones who currently have one don't want them?
Just because YOU don't want one ...
 
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