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So to put it in perspective your objection is price. I hate to say it but money should not the reason to slate a product. I have had many different brands much more expensive but always keep a set of AirPods as they just work, pair easily and last a long time. My original pair still work; I agree they do not last as long.
They are great value as I hate things that are a faff, I want things to just work my AirPods always do. I have a fe other brands which work but with a a few annoyances.

Price is only part of it. All earphones are awesome, well in the given price range. I just find that there’s nothing special about the AirPods. Maybe I expect too much?
 
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I must have defective ears; I can't stand the feel/fit of any of these "earplug" styles, but that's most of what they're selling now until you get up to the big over-ear ones.
 
What do you mean "trapping"? Apple sold a phone without a headphone jack, people bought them. If it was that much of a deal breaker, they'd buy a different phone, or refuse to upgrade.
I hear this sort of "logic" all the time.

Just because something isn't a "deal breaker" doesn't mean it doesn't suck. Nearly every product sold has tradeoffs. I upgraded from an older iPhone with a headphone jack to a newer iPhone without one. I knew about that tradeoff, and it sucked.
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And included an adaptor to replicate the function of the now missing jack.

"Included?" Not on the last two I bought.

Quality issues aside(if they even exist) you can still do things the old way, so the point is invalid.
You can still use a pair of wired headphones, yes. However, you cannot "still do things the old way."

Wrong once again. If you want to be pedantic about it, the old way was me taking my headphones and plugging the 3.5 cable into the phone. Show me how that's possible now. The new way involves me going to a store and buying an adapter/dongle (which by its very nature lessens the audio quality). So no, not like before.
Yep, this ^. I don't think it's pedantic because it's even worse than that. Having it in the center with the lightning connector sticking out is much more obnoxious and cumbersome.
 
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Imagine that! You strip people of their ability to use one type of product and instead force them to use another type of product.

Then you introduce a version of that second product priced at $139 and up. You market it aggressively to people who already own at least one of your products, knowing full well that many of them care a lot about the brand and its cachet. It's a good product, but with gross margins around 60%, it's absurdly profitable.

And that new product does well! I say again – imagine that!

Full disclosure: I own a pair of AirPods Pro myself.
The ability wasn't really stripped. You can still use the wired EarPods with your phone or your headphones with the adapter they used to provide, but not anymore for obvious reasons.
 
Price is only part of it. All earphones are awesome, well in the given price range. I just find that there’s nothing special about the AirPods. Maybe I expect too much?
They are not all awesome nor are all made the same or equal. I expect them to pair, work and last a while and use them to listen to various media. That’s it; thus I have different pairs for different use cases. The AirPods excel at what I need and clearly satisfy many others also.
 
The fact they just work with other Apple products is enough to sell 99% of customers over competitors they’ve never heard of before.

If you're going with "just works" as an argument, you need to look at what it's replacing. Headphones are plug it in and put it on your ear. That's just working. I don't care how nice your Airpods are - they don't achieve that level of simplicity. The only mild annoyance of wired headphones is that maybe the wire is sometimes tangled, but organizing better prevented that and nobody takes more than a minute to untangle them (and you could just use them tangled if you didn't care.)

The prices Apple charges for headphones are dumb. I'm disappointed in people for buying them.
 
This is the first time I've heard that the headphone dongle reduces sound quality.

Is the dongle an external DAC that turns digital signals into analog audio?

Or does the Lightning Port actually have analog L-R pins that carry audio?

In either case I can't imagine there's that much difference. But I'm not an audiophile. :)
 
I think the most ridiculous thing is that Apple still includes a wired pair of EarPods with every iPhone. But it uses a Lightning port so if you'd like to use them with your Mac you need to get yet another adapter.

Wanna use your old 3.5 headphones with your iPhone? Buy 3.5 in - Lightning out adapter
Wanna use your new wired EarPods with Lightning port with your Mac? Buy Lightning in - 3.5 out adapter
 
Not surprised by this at all. I knew as soon as I had my first pair and they ran out for 6 months after that these were complete winners. I do cringe a little bit for a California based company exec to use the term "wildfire"

Why didn't he just say they spread across the globe like a pandemic?
 
These products prove that Apple is the single best company that’s ever existed in human history. No other company compares. I’ll buy every gen AirPods that ever come out, every new iPhone and iPad, every new watch, and a computer every 3 years. I’m sold for life! No other company will ever convince me to switch
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'oh they just work'... but y'all have been cringing and shouting abt the dud ANC broken after a firmware update. smh
ANC is working just fine on mine, not sure what all the outcry was for. Actually, it was only a small outcry. No biggie
 
What do you mean "trapping"? Apple sold a phone without a headphone jack, people bought them. If it was that much of a deal breaker, they'd buy a different phone, or refuse to upgrade.

They'd buy diapers with an Apple logo too.
 
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If you're going with "just works" as an argument, you need to look at what it's replacing. Headphones are plug it in and put it on your ear. That's just working. I don't care how nice your Airpods are - they don't achieve that level of simplicity. The only mild annoyance of wired headphones is that maybe the wire is sometimes tangled, but organizing better prevented that and nobody takes more than a minute to untangle them (and you could just use them tangled if you didn't care.)

The prices Apple charges for headphones are dumb. I'm disappointed in people for buying them.

Right because you never have to spend time untangling the cord on regular headphones. Guess I should have read further. Okay can you leave your phone charging in a separate room and change the song with wired headphones? Have you ever had your phone be tugged by the wires and fall because of the wires while doing something?

Can you do the dishes and change music easily with wired phones? The bluetooth range on these things is phenomenal the best they have ever made. But seriously they have great range. No corded pair of phones without Siri support have this advantage.
 
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Imagine that! You strip people of their ability to use one type of product and instead force them to use another type of product.

Then you introduce a version of that second product priced at $139 and up. You market it aggressively to people who already own at least one of your products, knowing full well that many of them care a lot about the brand and its cachet. It's a good product, but with gross margins around 60%, it's absurdly profitable.

And that new product does well! I say again – imagine that!

Full disclosure: I own a pair of AirPods Pro myself.
To be fair, it was well into the “no-headphone jack on iPhone” when I replaced my Motorola s9 with AirPods. I had the s9 for 10 years before they kicked the bucket. I have no illusions the AirPods will last that long, but oh they are so convenient.
 
Yep. Plus they're a status symbol and convey to everyone else — very visibly and noticeably — that you own not just one put two Apple products.

Don't get me wrong. They're very good. But at $249, they are like most Apple products: padded with a huge profit margin.

Actually it's more like, any person with two fingers in their forehead can see these are overpriced mediocre sounding tampons, people thinking this garbage provides any kind of status must be god's closest souls.
 
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If you're going with "just works" as an argument, you need to look at what it's replacing. Headphones are plug it in and put it on your ear. That's just working. I don't care how nice your Airpods are - they don't achieve that level of simplicity. The only mild annoyance of wired headphones is that maybe the wire is sometimes tangled, but organizing better prevented that and nobody takes more than a minute to untangle them (and you could just use them tangled if you didn't care.)

The prices Apple charges for headphones are dumb. I'm disappointed in people for buying them.
Using that argument might as well just use the built in speaker...don’t have to plug anything in.
 
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Actually it's more like, any person with two fingers in their forehead can see these are overpriced mediocre sounding tampons, people thinking this garbage provides any kind of status must be god's closest souls.
There are apparently a boat load of people who disagree with the sentiment about “overpriced mediocre sounding tampons”.
 
I feel that most Bluetooth headphones ‘just work’.
Try switching from the macbook to the ipad and vice versa.

the device you want to use the bluetooth headphones on should be the only device you need to touch to pair. standard bluetooth headphone require you to go to the other device to manually disconnect.
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Because wired earphones can run indefinitely, don't require batteries and are 100X simpler

until you realize you didn't properly wound up the wire before putting it away and you have to untangle it everytime you want to use it
 
I guess the person you are responding to think wired phones run indefinitely when they are plugged into the only port. I know you can get a splitter dongle. However right out of the box you will never be able to run your wired headphones indefinitely. You could also use a wireless charger. Now we are using wireless technology to make a wired set of earphones run indefinitely.
 
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