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weird...

The whole concept of ads being good for anything still just weird to me. I'm suspicious that their statistics have been skewed a little more than usual... :confused:

I never click on ads... never...

Ads are a sham, awesome stuff sells itself.
 
Hey you crazy kids! get off my TV! mumble mumble drek teenagers... hipsters! That's what they are... hipsters!

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Another intelligent comment! If you lived in NYC and had a job in advertising, you'd have a clue what I'm talking about. Oh, and they aren't teens, they're in their 30's and highly annoying.
 
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Yes. It is. Advertising is the bane of modern culture.

You'll change your tune if you're in the business of selling something.

"Jobs makes control-freak, autocratic move in an attempt to make money."
This is the undertone of a lot of recent thinking.

"Recent thinking" from the geek contingent on Apple fansites and the perenially jealous on other tech sites - that is, those out of touch with the market.
 
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Has anyone every knowingly and on-purpose clicked on a mobile ad?

An ad doesn't need to be clicked on to have value to the advertiser. A tiny branded message plastered all over millions of handhelds is extremely valuable. Any clicks are simply gravy.
 
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An ad doesn't need to be clicked on to have value to the advertiser. A tiny branded message plastered all over millions of handhelds is extremely valuable. Any clicks are simply gravy.

Doesn't the cost of running an app depend on how many clicks it gets?

On the few apps I have with advertising I just ignore that part of the screen.
 
Doesn't the cost of running an app depend on how many clicks it gets?

On the few apps I have with advertising I just ignore that part of the screen.

To put it in simple terms: Ads are for the product. Clicks are for the dev.

The ads will have their intended effect wether or not they're clicked, but devs don't make any cash UNLESS they're clicked.

I have yet to see a single iAd and I hope to never do so.

Lol, i just thought of something funny, and felt like sharing: "I have never seen a single iAd and never hope to see one. But if there is a single iAd I'd rather see than be one."

Thank you, thank you.
 
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I can't stand ads - they are irritating. They try to be clever but they are just annoying.

I wish the ads just simply told me what the product or service does and they didn't wrap it up in a sad attempt to be cute or clever (which fails 95% of the time).

For you but not the general public of iPhone users. Research has shown time and time again, people like cute interactive ads. They are here to stay.

Note: I didn't sugercoat my feelings!

I'd bet good money you are living alone and no girlfriend too.

So you can only see iAds on the real Apple iphones; not on the generic iphones like the Droid?

For now. Eventually you will see it on non-Apple products but I'd be safe to say it will go into web pages before other mobile platforms.

What is the world coming to?

A healthy death of print. That is what it is coming too.

Has anyone every knowingly and on-purpose clicked on a mobile ad?

Right here. It is fun being social, you get to meet lots of people.
 
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As a developer, I LOVE iAds. I am making 3x what I did before just because of them. Right now I am at around $15 ecpm which you can compare you around the $0.50 ecpm I was making with AdMob. Also, as a user I find them entertaining and don't think of them as ads when I am using them.

To put it in simple terms: Ads are for the product. Clicks are for the dev.

The ads will have their intended effect wether or not they're clicked, but devs don't make any cash UNLESS they're clicked.

Not true. Developers make money on BOTH impressions and clicks. Normal iAds (one's not for apps) make the developer $1.20 per click and $0.006 per impression.
 
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As a developer, ads pay me for the cost of developing nice apps so that I can give them away for free. If you hate ads, then I suppose you've paid to remove them from every app that provides the option?
 
As a developer, I LOVE iAds. I am making 3x what I did before just because of them. Right now I am at around $15 ecpm which you can compare you around the $0.50 ecpm I was making with AdMob. Also, as a user I find them entertaining and don't think of them as ads when I am using them.

Developers make money on BOTH impressions and clicks. Normal iAds (one's not for apps) make the developer $1.20 per click and $0.006 per impression.

As a developer, ads pay me for the cost of developing nice apps so that I can give them away for free. If you hate ads, then I suppose you've paid to remove them from every app that provides the option?
Well put gents.

Please note that: constant complainers here at MR come from a variety of backgrounds, some of which appear to be...
  • former Apple employees (one or two of whom may have been booted by SJ personally, judging by their borderline hate-speech).

  • disgruntled Flash developers, who joined up here en masse after SJ published his "Thoughts on Flash" letter online. [some may have been here before that.]

  • kids (probably with little visible means of support), who believe that Apple exists just to cater to their every whim exclusively.

  • Windows [/PeeCee/Android/etc.,] users who hang out here for reasons only "God" knows.

So —if your words fall upon deaf ears —just know that those are some of the groups which simply could never be reached anyway.
 
they are basically going to turn the iPhone into one big GPS-tracking, ad platform. they know your name, location, app habits, calling and e-mail habits.

imagine.... incoming call from mum .... iad: "buy flowers from interflora for your mum now!"

not good!
 
Apple claim that “developers are rewarded with a 60 percent cut of the revenue”, But there are at least 4 roles in the business model:

1: Apple company: as the role of AD operator, operate the iAD program, control the quality of AD program;
2: App Developers: the role who provide the AD free space in their APP to let Apple to load the AD content;
3: AD maker: who take charge the creation or generation of AD program ;
4: AD owner: Who spent money to make or publish AD to promote their own product, such as “Nissan”;

My question is : When Apple have the deal with AD owners, Apple will get a incoming from the AD owner, for example 1 million dollars, and How will Apple distribute and cost this 1 million dollars between Apple/ App Developers/ AD maker ?
They just say that 60% will belong to the APP developers. So I think there must be some roles to regulate the revenue distribution, I guess maybe it will be like this:
Some parts of 1 million will be required by AD maker, for example , 200K, Maybe AD maker is Apple themselves, anyway there is a role of AD maker ;
Some parts of 1 million will be required by Apple Company permanently, for example, 200K, it is for the cost of operation of this iAD system ;
The last parts will be the package which will be shared by Apple and the App Developers, For example 600k dollars, But there will be a accurate rule to calculate the money, 10 dollars fro CPM, 2 dollars for each interactive click view. Based on this role, Apple provide the 60% to App developers, but It’s doubtless that the total revenue of App developers will not beyong this package.

This is my understanding, Hope Somebody can correct it,and help me to make it more clear, Thanks you very much.
 
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