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I’ve been hearing about Apples’s services being intermittent but so far no issues for imessage for me .
 
Yo, what in the world is going on over at Apple? Someone said Russia, and I laughed, but now I’m not so sure it’s a joke.

Sorry for the FUD; I’m hoping it’s just the lack of QA at Apple these days…. Which also doesn’t fill me with warm fuzzies.

?‍♂️ Guess things just gotta be bad sometimes.
 
Yikes! Third outage this week. What is going on with Apple? Or is this a cyber attack related to the war in Ukraine?

Definitely the latter.
iMessage is encrypted end-to-end, so Putin has a vested interest in the service going down. That, and Apple pulled out of Russia - looks like companies who have disavowed the war crimes in Ukraine are being targeted...
 
Good thing it has something modern to fall back on, like RCS. Right, Tim?
Would be all for it... if it was end-to-end encrypted. :/

Google (and seemingly only Google) does allow end-to-end encryption via RCS, but "Both users need Google Messages, RCS needs to be on, and it's for 1:1 chats only." In other words, only a small percentage of RCS chats are realistically going to use E2E. iMessage, on the other hand, is always E2E. IMO, E2E is as essential for messaging applications as HTTPS is for the web.

Now don't get me wrong, iMessage is no Signal. It does have major flaws, such as being closed source and the situation where having iCloud Backups enabled essentially makes its E2E useless in certain scenarios. But the fact that it is E2E has had a major positive privacy and security impact regardless (we've seen quite a few court cases from governments and data-hungry corporations who aren't happy about it).

I really wish RCS would go E2E by default. :( Although it is clearly is a major improvement over SMS, I just can't bring myself to support the introduction of any new messaging protocol that doesn't default to it. One of the biggest issues with SMS is how insecure it is, and IMO if a new protocol isn't going to fix that then we shouldn't even bother with it. Apple certainly has multiple reasons to not get on board with RCS (including selfish ones), but they may also be sending a message that it's E2E or bust. And if they are, I support that.
 
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I’ve had intermittent imessage issues for a few days. Always been bullet proof so assumed it was my phone, I wonder if it’s connected to the other outages they’ve had?
It most certainly has not always been bulletproof. My entire family turned iMessage off after we realised we were losing messages between us without any of us realising they hadn't been sent.
 
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It most certainly has not always been bulletproof. My entire family turned iMessage off after we realised we were losing messages between us without any of us realising they hadn't been sent.
Weird. Mine always says delivered if delivered or the red exclamation point if not. Or is sends via sms automatically. Never had one just not work with no indication whatsoever. Been bulletproof for me since it came out.
 
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Now on Apple TV. ;)
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Messages has issues at the best of times because it's an incoherent mess of an app. They really need to take a look at what other IM apps are doing and get with the times.
 
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If you chose to live by the cloud service then you also DIE by the Cloud service when it goes down.
 
Would be all for it... if it was end-to-end encrypted. :/

Google (and seemingly only Google) does allow end-to-end encryption via RCS, but "Both users need Google Messages, RCS needs to be on, and it's for 1:1 chats only." In other words, only a small percentage of RCS chats are realistically going to use E2E. iMessage, on the other hand, is always E2E. IMO, E2E is as essential for messaging applications as HTTPS is for the web.

Now don't get me wrong, iMessage is no Signal. It does have major flaws, such as being closed source and the situation where having iCloud Backups enabled essentially makes its E2E useless in certain scenarios. But the fact that it is E2E has had a major positive privacy and security impact regardless (we've seen quite a few court cases from governments and data-hungry corporations who aren't happy about it).

I really wish RCS would go E2E by default. :( Although it is clearly is a major improvement over SMS, I just can't bring myself to support the introduction of any new messaging protocol that doesn't default to it. One of the biggest issues with SMS is how insecure it is, and IMO if a new protocol isn't going to fix that then we shouldn't even bother with it. Apple certainly has multiple reasons to not get on board with RCS (including selfish ones), but they may also be sending a message that it's E2E or bust. And if they are, I support that.
This logic makes no sense to me. You’d rather have something worse because the better thing isn’t better in one specific way? RCS can be made end to end encrypted, and even if it wasn’t it would still fix a ton of the current issues associated with SMS.
 
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Oh so rather than SMS, iMessage should fall back on RCS, which has connection problems ALL THE TIME. Its so unreliable.
Connection problems? It’s just a messaging standard, your cell network would have to be down for you to experience connection problems.
 
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